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Sat, 25 Dec 2021 04:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.112.109.103] ([185.209.196.172]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e18sm11772863wrx.36.2021.12.25.04.09.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Dec 2021 04:09:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> <m2mtndb5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> <04c3e90b-a9a8-724d-1f2c-98c43e9f9658@HIDDEN> <87sfui2p33.fsf@HIDDEN> <cad5e183-b9e9-f2d0-0d8b-753ae0d3c9d9@HIDDEN> <87y24af6lw.fsf@HIDDEN> <0edd36d2-58d7-a1ba-274a-db05910ed9e6@HIDDEN> <87sfugud8u.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <66f02af6-1642-d02c-8b1a-87fe93c6cd09@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:08:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sfugud8u.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 25.12.2021 14:37, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> On 24.12.2021 16:57, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >>> >>>> On 24.12.2021 14:56, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>>>> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. >>>>> So what is the preferred way for switching to another vc backend from >>>>> 28.1 onward? >>>> I suppose it depends on your scenario. >>>> >>>> Do you routinely use two different backends in certain >>>> projects/directories? >>> Yes, when switching between some default vc backend such as git and >>> vc-backup (from ELPA) to work with backup files. >> >> I haven't tried that package, but it's a little surprising that >> vc-backup needs such a feature to be fully usable. I guess one option >> would be for it to provide user commands, one of which which would >> move it at the front of vc-handled-backends? An the other would undo >> that action. Or just bundle a copy of vc-switch-backend under a >> different name. > > The package is still usable, you just don't get to work on backups when > your file is managed by some other version control system (unless you > want prioritise it over any other backend). If it is the case, that > vc-switch-backend is rarely used, it seems like adding a custom > vc-backup-toggle-backend command to vc-backup would make the most sense. Yes, we all thought it is rarely used. >> But if you don't like both of those suggestions, my preferred plan >> would be for you to continue using vc-switch-backend in Emacs 28. In >> Emacs 29, we could un-obsolete it but put it on a different key >> binding (such as 'C-x v B'), freeing 'C-x v b' for the prefix map for >> branch operations. > > Maybe I missed something, but would the issue be to just unbind the key, > without obsoleting it? FWIW I would also appreciate having C-x v b > bound to branch commands. You missed a bunch of comments in this bug discussion. Unbinding without obsoleting makes sense to me, but not to Eli.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2021 11:37:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 25 06:37:33 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1n15Mj-0000zk-CU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 06:37:33 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:51661) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1n15Mg-0000zQ-JF for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 06:37:32 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25ADE240027 for <50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 12:37:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1640432244; bh=IxWA4+xwLiuIRDq755SrCqu5KLk4XuSBUYo9BAo1rxs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=Q48O/BhT76EUGCbH4e1GLEobfKvAEfbsYbfcIQYgkgv0I4k3s/fico+kR1Zzm56pr UimZvUEZnS6IS/MgvRTwh3EFDVpzPGpMW3/eX4D6pgXvMt7u5xMlO+qYLL0CLwNmFa HbcrgNuNVMyuKKexJFxbFLTFudsZvplg4ttSy+uZvtDo5bSnDNH2gwezjLhqS1IN+z fA6mzs4WnMAIgn98qUVLiGbgSYjpuBa1OpeVaRgfGRHo9N7g0W2cYHbozX8H3IRyo7 Vg42TWufdD/6DlNMdUrxXbABJ426mw+CfeHxw2Q4A/enY7THOqEfkE3uKlvwrz6Fgx zrjH3s6C2gaTA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JLhjv2Yqnz6tp6; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 12:37:22 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> <m2mtndb5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> <04c3e90b-a9a8-724d-1f2c-98c43e9f9658@HIDDEN> <87sfui2p33.fsf@HIDDEN> <cad5e183-b9e9-f2d0-0d8b-753ae0d3c9d9@HIDDEN> <87y24af6lw.fsf@HIDDEN> <0edd36d2-58d7-a1ba-274a-db05910ed9e6@HIDDEN> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@HIDDEN; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 11:37:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: <0edd36d2-58d7-a1ba-274a-db05910ed9e6@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 25 Dec 2021 01:45:00 +0200") Message-ID: <87sfugud8u.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > On 24.12.2021 16:57, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> On 24.12.2021 14:56, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>>> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >>>> >>>>> I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. >>>> So what is the preferred way for switching to another vc backend from >>>> 28.1 onward? >>> I suppose it depends on your scenario. >>> >>> Do you routinely use two different backends in certain >>> projects/directories? >> Yes, when switching between some default vc backend such as git and >> vc-backup (from ELPA) to work with backup files. > > I haven't tried that package, but it's a little surprising that > vc-backup needs such a feature to be fully usable. I guess one option > would be for it to provide user commands, one of which which would > move it at the front of vc-handled-backends? An the other would undo > that action. Or just bundle a copy of vc-switch-backend under a > different name. The package is still usable, you just don't get to work on backups when your file is managed by some other version control system (unless you want prioritise it over any other backend). If it is the case, that vc-switch-backend is rarely used, it seems like adding a custom vc-backup-toggle-backend command to vc-backup would make the most sense. > But if you don't like both of those suggestions, my preferred plan > would be for you to continue using vc-switch-backend in Emacs 28. In > Emacs 29, we could un-obsolete it but put it on a different key > binding (such as 'C-x v B'), freeing 'C-x v b' for the prefix map for > branch operations. Maybe I missed something, but would the issue be to just unbind the key, without obsoleting it? FWIW I would also appreciate having C-x v b bound to branch commands. -- Philip Kaludercic
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Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o8sm10680684wry.20.2021.12.24.15.46.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:46:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> <m2mtndb5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> <04c3e90b-a9a8-724d-1f2c-98c43e9f9658@HIDDEN> <87sfui2p33.fsf@HIDDEN> <cad5e183-b9e9-f2d0-0d8b-753ae0d3c9d9@HIDDEN> <87y24af6lw.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <0edd36d2-58d7-a1ba-274a-db05910ed9e6@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 01:45:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87y24af6lw.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 24.12.2021 16:57, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> On 24.12.2021 14:56, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >>> >>>> I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. >>> So what is the preferred way for switching to another vc backend from >>> 28.1 onward? >> I suppose it depends on your scenario. >> >> Do you routinely use two different backends in certain >> projects/directories? > Yes, when switching between some default vc backend such as git and > vc-backup (from ELPA) to work with backup files. I haven't tried that package, but it's a little surprising that vc-backup needs such a feature to be fully usable. I guess one option would be for it to provide user commands, one of which which would move it at the front of vc-handled-backends? An the other would undo that action. Or just bundle a copy of vc-switch-backend under a different name. But if you don't like both of those suggestions, my preferred plan would be for you to continue using vc-switch-backend in Emacs 28. In Emacs 29, we could un-obsolete it but put it on a different key binding (such as 'C-x v B'), freeing 'C-x v b' for the prefix map for branch operations.
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Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sfui2p33.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN>, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 24.12.2021 14:56, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. > So what is the preferred way for switching to another vc backend from > 28.1 onward? I suppose it depends on your scenario. Do you routinely use two different backends in certain projects/directories?
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2021 11:57:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 24 06:57:03 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35813 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1n0jC3-0006PA-Ih for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 06:57:03 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:52389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1n0jBy-0006Ob-1U for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 06:57:01 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5427B240103 for <50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 12:56:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1640347011; bh=rn8vJKLF3nS3No/cAwV/hUBcrH+H7VXDHocf5njhDPI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=be47JK2Q0CsITJoqmyWF0s4UU2pGYSEJaHH+0qcwcLohwefDo8KYDbqmG8hDPyGAp 2ryYXdQx+TWpsdv9kOziLAafbPCzE9yF6p+27nqwWOnBIOQ2sdyHba7yWUXx/yvdzF OHITLgMCx3BqBYzzYWfAfQj/9AF20bVThBX4xsbbxQJIV7DqIkftaVuzIKDQC+I/Ue SrFcsvQlAF/ryFfo0WUW6mByxshMo8X/jkO3Zy65KUIWv11kON9XF5xO79RWVnpBQQ gGi+hi5jV/wcJltoUqfwebUIYhpU+MNZSnUA/Ke1EWVNIvtwQH4v3KydDIJ+mGjR1H SuWNQuad0oSGg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JL5Bn5ZjDz6tnS; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 12:56:49 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> <m2mtndb5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> <04c3e90b-a9a8-724d-1f2c-98c43e9f9658@HIDDEN> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@HIDDEN; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:56:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: <04c3e90b-a9a8-724d-1f2c-98c43e9f9658@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2021 02:37:24 +0300") Message-ID: <87sfui2p33.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN>, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. So what is the preferred way for switching to another vc backend from 28.1 onward? -- Philip Kaludercic
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It's the only caller of 'vc-switch-backend' >> outside of interactive invocations. >> >> 'vc-transfer-file' can also be used by 'C-u M-x vc-next-action', but it >> seems like a very rare workflow as well. Though more plausible than the >> use of 'vc-switch-backend' by itself. > Personally I don't use either of these commands, so this is a question > to others.. I guess there's little point to be too ambitious here, given that vc-transfer-file is not interactive, and changing vc-next-action's signature is not in the cards now anyway. And we don't have an actual mechanism for obsoleting only a part of command's calling convention. I have pushed the change which obsoletes vc-switch-backend now. Which should remove the main obstacle to adding the branches map with good binding in Emacs 29.
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Wed, 13 Oct 2021 06:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 13 Oct 2021 04:45:41 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <03e150fc-5825-16ee-9022-db53de43dbc1@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (darwin) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:12:49 +0300 Message-ID: <m2mtndb5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 13/10/2021 04:45 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 12.10.2021 15:48, Filipp Gunbin wrote: >> It'd be great to go this way. C-x v B is perhaps acceptable, but >> lowcase b is much, much better. Enough to sacrifice switching backends >> for it IMO. > > OK, then I guess the follow-up question is, do we obsolete > 'vc-transfer-file' as well? It's the only caller of 'vc-switch-backend' > outside of interactive invocations. > > 'vc-transfer-file' can also be used by 'C-u M-x vc-next-action', but it > seems like a very rare workflow as well. Though more plausible than the > use of 'vc-switch-backend' by itself. Personally I don't use either of these commands, so this is a question to others..
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C-x v B is perhaps acceptable, but > lowcase b is much, much better. Enough to sacrifice switching backends > for it IMO. OK, then I guess the follow-up question is, do we obsolete 'vc-transfer-file' as well? It's the only caller of 'vc-switch-backend' outside of interactive invocations. 'vc-transfer-file' can also be used by 'C-u M-x vc-next-action', but it seems like a very rare workflow as well. Though more plausible than the use of 'vc-switch-backend' by itself.
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Tue, 12 Oct 2021 08:48:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 8 Oct 2021 00:49:08 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba726f6b-0f49-2c0c-a47e-03278054855c@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (darwin) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:48:48 +0300 Message-ID: <m24k9mbe8f.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 08/10/2021 00:49 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 07.10.2021 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not >> deprecating the command which uses it. > > You know what, let's deprecate the command. > > This will give us a way to notify its users more prominently, and maybe > hear back about their patterns. > > In Emacs 29, we might as well un-deprecate the command itself but reuse > its binding for the branch prefix. The deprecation will already have > done its job. Or, alternatively, nobody will complain, and we could make > a more informed decision about removing it. It'd be great to go this way. C-x v B is perhaps acceptable, but lowcase b is much, much better. Enough to sacrifice switching backends for it IMO. Filipp
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You know what, let's deprecate the command. This will give us a way to notify its users more prominently, and maybe hear back about their patterns. In Emacs 29, we might as well un-deprecate the command itself but reuse its binding for the branch prefix. The deprecation will already have done its job. Or, alternatively, nobody will complain, and we could make a more informed decision about removing it.
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> >> Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch
> >> commands in Emacs 29.
> >
> > As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not
> > deprecating the command which uses it.
>
> I don't understand how this is different from removing other keybindings
> such as recently removing the global binding 'M-o' ('facemenu-keymap'),
> etc.
It isn't. But that even was enough pain for a single release, so I'd
like to avoid repeating it.
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>> Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch
>> commands in Emacs 29.
>
> As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not
> deprecating the command which uses it.
I don't understand how this is different from removing other keybindings
such as recently removing the global binding 'M-o' ('facemenu-keymap'),
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 17:33:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 13:33:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48355 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYXGR-0002Qs-UJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:33:04 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:54391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mYXGP-0002Q2-84 for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:33:02 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C858FFF803; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 17:32:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> <837dep0zhv.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 20:30:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: <837dep0zhv.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:51:24 +0300") Message-ID: <87o880u4ma.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, larsi@HIDDEN, dgutov@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Frankly, I don't understand why "C-x v B" suddenly stopped being a > good candidate. It was discussed at the beginning, but then was > suddenly dropped. I think it will make a better choice than what you > propose above, because it's somewhat easier to type, especially on > non-US keyboards (I think). Because for a few days I already tried to use 'C-x v B l' since I need to check the logs of other branches many times per day, and it was absolutely horrible experience — Shift+B is very hard to type because "B" is in the middle of the keyboard, and after I almost got RSI, I had to rebind it to `C-x v b l' for the relief.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50344; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 17:33:01 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 13:33:00 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYXGO-0002QE-NQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:33:00 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:56701) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mYXGL-0002Pv-BK for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:32:59 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C58F0240005; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 17:32:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz72wqg.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2mtnlm288.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 20:27:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: <m2mtnlm288.fsf@HIDDEN> (Filipp Gunbin's message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:46:47 +0300") Message-ID: <87mtnkvk5h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Thanks, two very minor doc comments: > >> +;;;###autoload >> +(defun vc-retrieve-tag (dir name &optional branchp) >> "For each file in or below DIR, retrieve their tagged version NAME. >> NAME can name a branch, in which case this command will switch to the >> named branch in the directory DIR. >> @@ -2375,15 +2413,21 @@ vc-retrieve-tag >> (read-directory-name "Directory: " default-directory nil t)))) >> (list >> dir >> - (vc-read-revision (format-prompt "Tag name to retrieve" "latest revisions") >> + (vc-read-revision (format-prompt >> + (if current-prefix-arg >> + "Branch name to retrieve" >> + "Tag name to retrieve") >> + "latest revisions") > > Mention prefix arg in the docstring? Thanks for noticing, will be added in the next version of the patch. >> +(defun vc-switch-branch (dir name) >> + "Switch to the branch NAME in the directory DIR. >> +If NAME is empty, it refers to the latest revisions of the current branch. >> +Uses `vc-retrieve-tag' with the non-nil arg `branchp'." > > "latest revision" instead of plural? This text was copied from vc-retrieve-tag, and Robert explained why it's plural. But since this phrase is too confusing, maybe it would be possible to rephrase it with a better text?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50344; Package emacs.
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Thu, 7 Oct 2021 09:51:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <87fstdugid.fsf@HIDDEN> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:11:06 +0200") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fstdugid.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (darwin) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 16:51:41 +0300 Message-ID: <m2bl41lz82.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, juri@HIDDEN, larsi@HIDDEN, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 07/10/2021 15:11 +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > I can see that we want to be careful about deprecation, but this > command is *really* niche. How about we move it to C-x v B, and let > Juri have C-x v b ? +1
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 13:50:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 09:50:51 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46475 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYTnP-0002Zd-9Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:50:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTnN-0002ZP-MR for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:50:50 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTnG-0006xN-Uc; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:50:44 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3930 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTmu-0005oo-KG; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:50:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 16:50:18 +0300 Message-Id: <83pmshymed.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <41382153-55b6-1872-eaa9-3ed21b71b22b@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:26:06 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41382153-55b6-1872-eaa9-3ed21b71b22b@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: juri@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:26:06 +0300 > > On 07.10.2021 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Cc:juri@HIDDEN,50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,larsi@HIDDEN > >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> > >> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:06:05 +0300 > >> > >> Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch > >> commands in Emacs 29. > > As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not > > deprecating the command which uses it. > > Why? > > We have commands without bindings. Because this command _has_ a binding, and had it since Emacs 21.
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Content preview: On 07.10.2021 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc:juri@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:06:05 +0300 >> >> Let's deprecate the binding in [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.167.52 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.167.52 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [178.252.127.239 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dgutov[at]yandex.ru) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 T_SPF_TEMPERROR SPF: test of record failed (temperror) 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) On 07.10.2021 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc:juri@HIDDEN,50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,larsi@HIDDEN >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:06:05 +0300 >> >> Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch >> commands in Emacs 29. > As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not > deprecating the command which uses it. Why? We have commands without bindings. We didn't deprecate 'xref-quit-and-goto-xref' either.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 13:22:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 09:22:02 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYTLW-0001nV-Lv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:22:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTLT-0001mu-VU for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:22:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTLN-0005Z8-6R; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:21:53 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2198 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTLM-0000W7-OW; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:21:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 16:21:50 +0300 Message-Id: <83v929ynpt.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:06:05 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <d2beec90-5731-5e12-0b20-db4ca2425f53@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: juri@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 16:06:05 +0300 > > Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch > commands in Emacs 29. As I already said, I don't want to deprecate the binding if we are not deprecating the command which uses it.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 13:11:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 09:11:41 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYTBV-0001VB-A2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:11:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55042) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTBU-0001Uz-2W for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:11:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36130) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTBO-0004DB-Fa; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:11:34 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1554 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYTBO-00088q-2I; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:11:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 16:11:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83zgrlyo73.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <044b4d98-02e6-e053-f3b0-5ceb76fdafc6@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:35:06 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> <a1a00c36-dfc3-c6f8-2857-a0af2eac5b31@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f58db391efc@HIDDEN> <044b4d98-02e6-e053-f3b0-5ceb76fdafc6@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:35:06 +0300 > Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > > It doesn't really make sense to move the branch commands to 'C-x v <' > while vc-dir-mode-map has branch commands on 'C-x v B'. We should make > the UI more uniform, not create more exceptions. I agree, but then why not use "C-x v B", as was discussed originally?
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log
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>>>>> On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:56:30 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
Eli> That's the same as "no one", for the purposes of this discussion.
>> Would you still deprecate it, with intent to remove? Or would you st=
ill=20
>> keep the binding?
Eli> I didn't say I was against deprecating the command. I said
Eli> deprecating it is the only way to eventually usurp its key binding.
- it=CA=BCs undocumented except in NEWS.21
- the workflow it=CA=BCs intended for requires you to use the
(undocumented) prefix arg to 'vc-next-action'
- and that workflow is something that I very much doubt anybody still
uses (temporarily using RCS for CVS controlled files? Just use git,
or hg or anything from the last 20 years)
Eli> But deprecation will take time, and I was under the impression that
Eli> Juri wanted the VC branch commands to have the binding NOW.
I can see that we want to be careful about deprecation, but this
command is *really* niche. How about we move it to C-x v B, and let
Juri have C-x v b ?
Robert
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 07.10.2021 15:56, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> What if 2 people total, out of all users, were using this command? > > That's the same as "no one", for the purposes of this discussion. If the command is still useful to a handful of people (some subset of CVS/RSC users, apparently), and it doesn't take effort to maintain it, it doesn't seem helpful to deprecate it. 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If the command is still useful to a handful of people (some subset of CVS/RSC users, apparently), and it doesn't take effort to maintain it, it doesn't seem helpful to deprecate it. Unlike the key binding. >> Would you still deprecate it, with intent to remove? Or would you still >> keep the binding? > > I didn't say I was against deprecating the command. I said > deprecating it is the only way to eventually usurp its key binding. And I questioned this statement. > But deprecation will take time, and I was under the impression that > Juri wanted the VC branch commands to have the binding NOW. As Juri said, the new branch commands are not ready yet. His patch was to prepare the users to this prefix being used for branch commands in the next Emacs version. You didn't like the proposed method, that's okay. Let's deprecate the binding in Emacs 28, so it can be used for branch commands in Emacs 29.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 12:56:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 08:56:46 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYSx3-00013F-R5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:56:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSwy-00012y-JA for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:56:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSws-0002eQ-Uk; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:56:34 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4599 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSwr-0000yZ-40; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:56:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:56:30 +0300 Message-Id: <834k9t0z9d.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:12:06 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> <d1da92a6-4e57-fa7c-01cf-f7691b38859e@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:12:06 +0300 > > >> Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires > >> deprecating the command? > > > > Because people will expect the old binding to work as long as the > > command is useful. > > They shouldn't: we have a lot of commands without dedicated bindings. > > This command will retain some marginal utility, for some users out there > (though I don't know who or why), so removing it doesn't make sense. > > But its utility is incommeasurable with the binding it's taking up. > > Let's announce in Emacs 28's NEWS that we intend to remove (or take > away) the binding 'C-x v b'. Just like we did with the TAB binding in > *xref* buffers. > > >>> It was then, but it can be used today with other backends. > >> > >> What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today? > > > > You mean, I personally? Why is that relevant? If you want to say > > that no one uses this command anymore, then that points to deprecating > > the command, and when it's obsolete for long enough time (at least one > > major release, IMO), we can remove its binding. > > "No one" is a very strong criterion. > > What if 2 people total, out of all users, were using this command? That's the same as "no one", for the purposes of this discussion. > Would you still deprecate it, with intent to remove? Or would you still > keep the binding? I didn't say I was against deprecating the command. I said deprecating it is the only way to eventually usurp its key binding. But deprecation will take time, and I was under the impression that Juri wanted the VC branch commands to have the binding NOW.
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
To: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log
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>>>>> On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:46:47 +0300, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> said:
>> +(defun vc-switch-branch (dir name)
>> + "Switch to the branch NAME in the directory DIR.
>> +If NAME is empty, it refers to the latest revisions of the current branch.
>> +Uses `vc-retrieve-tag' with the non-nil arg `branchp'."
Filipp> "latest revision" instead of plural?
Some version control systems have branches, but also have per-file
revisions.
Robert
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 07.10.2021 15:42, Filipp Gunbin wrote: > Maybe I missing something, but why can't we assign branch commands to > the C-x v B prefix? Yeah, we could. But when someone else comes along and asks why we have everybody pressing Shift every time they need to do something with a branch, I won't have a good answer. 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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 12:51:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 08:51:41 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYSs9-0000us-ET for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:51:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSs4-0000ua-C0 for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:51:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSrx-00065n-Q5; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:51:29 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4283 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYSrx-0000QQ-D6; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:51:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:51:24 +0300 Message-Id: <837dep0zhv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:57:24 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, dgutov@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 09:57:24 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, > dgutov@HIDDEN > > If C-x v b isn't available anymore, perhaps C-x v < or ^ would be a good > alternative? Frankly, I don't understand why "C-x v B" suddenly stopped being a good candidate. It was discussed at the beginning, but then was suddenly dropped. I think it will make a better choice than what you propose above, because it's somewhat easier to type, especially on non-US keyboards (I think).
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Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:46:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <878rz72wqg.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 05 Oct 2021 20:43:35 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz72wqg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (darwin) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:46:47 +0300 Message-ID: <m2mtnlm288.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Thanks, two very minor doc comments: > +;;;###autoload > +(defun vc-retrieve-tag (dir name &optional branchp) > "For each file in or below DIR, retrieve their tagged version NAME. > NAME can name a branch, in which case this command will switch to the > named branch in the directory DIR. > @@ -2375,15 +2413,21 @@ vc-retrieve-tag > (read-directory-name "Directory: " default-directory nil t)))) > (list > dir > - (vc-read-revision (format-prompt "Tag name to retrieve" "latest revisions") > + (vc-read-revision (format-prompt > + (if current-prefix-arg > + "Branch name to retrieve" > + "Tag name to retrieve") > + "latest revisions") Mention prefix arg in the docstring? > +(defun vc-switch-branch (dir name) > + "Switch to the branch NAME in the directory DIR. > +If NAME is empty, it refers to the latest revisions of the current branch. > +Uses `vc-retrieve-tag' with the non-nil arg `branchp'." "latest revision" instead of plural? Filipp.
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, larsi@HIDDEN, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 07/10/2021 14:35 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 07.10.2021 14:25, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >>>>> It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' bindin= g. >>>> >>>> If C-x v b isn't available anymore, perhaps C-x v < or ^ would be a >>>> good alternative? >>> >>> For vc-switch-backend? >>> >> >> No, for vc-branch-* commands.=C2=A0 vc-switch-backend is already on C-x = v b. > > It doesn't really make sense to move the branch commands to 'C-x v <' > while vc-dir-mode-map has branch commands on 'C-x v B'. We should make > the UI more uniform, not create more exceptions. > > It's not mnemonic either. Maybe I missing something, but why can't we assign branch commands to the C-x v B prefix?
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From: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= <kevin.legouguec@HIDDEN>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log
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Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes:
>> It's not mnemonic either.
>>
>
> IMO it is, '<' is a visual representation of two branches. I wouldn't
> be surprised if '<' was used (as an icon) to open a dialog for branch
> operations in some other editor.
(With apologies for contributing to the bikeshed,)
'y' kinda works too by the same logic, and is unused by vc AFAICT?
Magit uses 'y' for "refs" commands[1], which bring up buffers
enumerating branches and tags).
(Magit does use 'b' for branch management in general though. IMO it is
more intuitive for a VC system to bind commonly used branch commands[2]
to 'b'; switching backends sounds like a one-off maintenance operation
that one would hopefully not need a dedicated binding for.)
[1] https://magit.vc/manual/magit/References-Buffer.html
[2] Such as those described upthread, e.g. creating branches, showing
their log, checking them out:
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 11:42:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 07:42:39 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYRnL-0007ar-7G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 07:42:39 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:37482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1mYRnH-0007ah-TU for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 07:42:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633606954; bh=WkNCAqSVsb1FwWF9VeKH8VOx5/J/sHwoROljbTVPxyo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=CijRRECNOCTIn4Hw18DKwOlPo+Xnr+4buDwYeE3whFS92cf6GzWr05wvJe2xX4dqE 4KzIJoT0/GpCNEvRi7oQa09h2xY9+FC+Jod2d1PHKjW0gb1hPshAZyuIHMJzFsFwlL noenkU/rYnpOSz5OjZcf8cYH0JEQRvkaEWwVOcfBjUNafw2S/37P6dK6zUeCmkCXjO oZivwtwoXtv5wLJ4LkZF7sGK277rm16OQ+lfPCKDQVcnxdxJy4vXkT/oq5PQHLLsVF qLG1sfkLb8NRBGuSLiw/3MkH7L33pfUEM349+QSfcR4ko7LNW2bG/N9pxDdKHqhGWq 6mBj9LmDprrzw== Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:42:34 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <044b4d98-02e6-e053-f3b0-5ceb76fdafc6@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <caafd0590f47ce7a64f1@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> <a1a00c36-dfc3-c6f8-2857-a0af2eac5b31@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f58db391efc@HIDDEN> <044b4d98-02e6-e053-f3b0-5ceb76fdafc6@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > It doesn't really make sense to move the branch commands to 'C-x v <' > while vc-dir-mode-map has branch commands on 'C-x v B'. We should make > the UI more uniform, not create more exceptions. > These were my 2 cents, just an idea. > > It's not mnemonic either. > IMO it is, '<' is a visual representation of two branches. I wouldn't be surprised if '<' was used (as an icon) to open a dialog for branch operations in some other editor.
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It doesn't really make sense to move the branch commands to 'C-x v <' while vc-dir-mode-map has branch commands on 'C-x v B'. We should make the UI more uniform, not create more exceptions. It's not mnemonic either.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 11:25:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 07:25:53 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYRX7-00051B-8R for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 07:25:53 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:37456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1mYRX6-000513-A4 for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 07:25:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633605951; bh=hJCB+AQYkFwUeiEh4UlIFNzF4Tf+dRufCwzedDFoOww=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=thLAli6VptGN4V4Z3NHgs6NWMoYzgIK8lIVxSEbOvGVcCvgb74MNFlCg+fjsv1hDM z6ZCzUQRszIywTg7QHxIR+xKV4WLQjDBMz3bi7ScuYHsv8+uabb6BfZylTh3ZT2znD FEjNXhg0KPLNVTBH3lZzm5hrsFN7/l1OlGwCx8Z8wHayIU+AE4zLYeg1N0Mtz9l1Rt dUJDInzuDLwisQtNlapXXMsFPP2WkqyE+pw5WraDgISyOcMxRaG4/rVB8LdaVjvX61 sVjulpSEEE2BH+yG6o31dKQByvS/2mtTUou7kKljtnkjv1Ux+aMsViiu+Xww3QvDFk Qbqej/RA2bypw== Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:25:50 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <a1a00c36-dfc3-c6f8-2857-a0af2eac5b31@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <caafd0590f58db391efc@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> <caafd0590f690f5bab34@HIDDEN> <a1a00c36-dfc3-c6f8-2857-a0af2eac5b31@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, larsi@HIDDEN, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' >>> binding. >> >> If C-x v b isn't available anymore, perhaps C-x v < or ^ would be a >> good alternative? > > For vc-switch-backend? > No, for vc-branch-* commands. vc-switch-backend is already on C-x v b.
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Content preview: On 07.10.2021 12:57, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >> It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' binding. >> > > If C-x v b isn't available anymore, perhaps C-x v < or ^ would be a go [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [178.252.127.239 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dgutov[at]yandex.ru) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.167.41 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.167.41 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, larsi@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) On 07.10.2021 12:57, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >> It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' binding. >> > > If C-x v b isn't available anymore, perhaps C-x v < or ^ would be a good > alternative? For vc-switch-backend?
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Content preview: On 07.10.2021 11:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Juri Linkov >> Cc: dgutov@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN >> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300 >> >>>> It will take more time [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (raaahh[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.167.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.167.42 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [178.252.127.239 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) On 07.10.2021 11:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> >> Cc: dgutov@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN >> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300 >> >>>> It will take more time to create branch commands due to many problems. >>>> So the best what we could do now is to rebind 'vc-switch-backend' >>>> from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B' in emacs-28 to give time to adapt >>>> to new keybinding. >>> >>> Please don't change such old key bindings, not unless we are >>> deprecating the command (which we aren't, AFAIU). >> >> Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires >> deprecating the command? > > Because people will expect the old binding to work as long as the > command is useful. They shouldn't: we have a lot of commands without dedicated bindings. This command will retain some marginal utility, for some users out there (though I don't know who or why), so removing it doesn't make sense. But its utility is incommeasurable with the binding it's taking up. Let's announce in Emacs 28's NEWS that we intend to remove (or take away) the binding 'C-x v b'. Just like we did with the TAB binding in *xref* buffers. >>> It was then, but it can be used today with other backends. >> >> What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today? > > You mean, I personally? Why is that relevant? If you want to say > that no one uses this command anymore, then that points to deprecating > the command, and when it's obsolete for long enough time (at least one > major release, IMO), we can remove its binding. "No one" is a very strong criterion. What if 2 people total, out of all users, were using this command? Would you still deprecate it, with intent to remove? Or would you still keep the binding?
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 08:29:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 04:29:11 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYOm7-0006XX-76 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYOm5-0006X7-Ay for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYOlz-0002CZ-9A; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:03 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4128 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mYOly-0002AM-S8; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:28:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, dgutov@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > Cc: dgutov@HIDDEN, 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300 > > >> It will take more time to create branch commands due to many problems. > >> So the best what we could do now is to rebind 'vc-switch-backend' > >> from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B' in emacs-28 to give time to adapt > >> to new keybinding. > > > > Please don't change such old key bindings, not unless we are > > deprecating the command (which we aren't, AFAIU). > > Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires > deprecating the command? Because people will expect the old binding to work as long as the command is useful. > > It was then, but it can be used today with other backends. > > What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today? You mean, I personally? Why is that relevant? If you want to say that no one uses this command anymore, then that points to deprecating the command, and when it's obsolete for long enough time (at least one major release, IMO), we can remove its binding. > > So I'm opposed to such a change. (And it's too late for incompatible > > changes on the emacs-28 branch anyway.) > > It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' binding. I don't see why it must end with 'b' to make any sense. I think you are exaggerating.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50344; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 08:08:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 07 04:08:31 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mYOS6-0003pm-Qt for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:08:31 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:49111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mYOS2-0003pU-4I for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:08:29 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFEF51BF209; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:08:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: <83ily91djz.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:47:44 +0300") Message-ID: <878rz5w9cf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@HIDDEN, dgutov@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> It will take more time to create branch commands due to many problems. >> So the best what we could do now is to rebind 'vc-switch-backend' >> from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B' in emacs-28 to give time to adapt >> to new keybinding. > > Please don't change such old key bindings, not unless we are > deprecating the command (which we aren't, AFAIU). Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires deprecating the command? >>'vc-switch-backend' was announced in NEWS thusly: >> >> If a file is registered in multiple backends, you can switch to >> another one using C-x v b (vc-switch-backend). This does not change >> any files, it only changes VC's perspective on the file. Use this to >> pick up changes from CVS while working under RCS locally. >> >> So it was intended to switch backends between CVS and RCS. > > It was then, but it can be used today with other backends. What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today? > So I'm opposed to such a change. (And it's too late for incompatible > changes on the emacs-28 branch anyway.) It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' binding.
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> I realized that quite likely many users already rely on 'C-x v s'
> and 'C-x v r' to create/switch branches because currently there is
> no other quick way to do these frequent actions. OTOH, I don't
> believe that 'vc-switch-backend' is used often. So it seems pretty safe
> to just create a new prefix key map for 'C-x v b', and rebind 'vc-switch-backend'
> to 'C-x v B'. Then leave 'C-x v r' and 'C-x v s' unchanged to give
> users time to adopt to the new branch-related prefix map 'C-x v b'.
It will take more time to create branch commands due to many problems.
So the best what we could do now is to rebind 'vc-switch-backend'
from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B' in emacs-28 to give time to adapt
to new keybinding. 'vc-switch-backend' was announced in NEWS thusly:
If a file is registered in multiple backends, you can switch to
another one using C-x v b (vc-switch-backend). This does not change
any files, it only changes VC's perspective on the file. Use this to
pick up changes from CVS while working under RCS locally.
So it was intended to switch backends between CVS and RCS.
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Content-Disposition: inline; filename=vc-switch-backend.patch
diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index 8b327fac0f..26af52af58 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -3299,6 +3299,10 @@ Setting this to nil inhibits that.
** 'vc-print-branch-log' shows the change log from its root directory.
It previously used to use the default directory.
+---
+** 'vc-switch-backend' is rebound from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B'.
+The prefix key 'C-x v b' is reserved for coming branch commands.
+
---
** 'project-shell' and 'shell' now use 'pop-to-buffer-same-window'.
This is to keep the same behavior as Eshell.
diff --git a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
index b7760e3bba..7455a306bc 100644
--- a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
+++ b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
@@ -864,7 +864,8 @@ vc-kill-buffer-hook
(defvar vc-prefix-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(define-key map "a" #'vc-update-change-log)
- (define-key map "b" #'vc-switch-backend)
+ ;; TODO: Use the prefix key "b" for branch commands.
+ (define-key map "B" #'vc-switch-backend)
(define-key map "d" #'vc-dir)
(define-key map "g" #'vc-annotate)
(define-key map "G" #'vc-ignore)
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This >>>> coul [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (raaahh[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.167.41 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [178.252.127.239 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.167.41 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) On 06.10.2021 10:29, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> The command could have a mode for specifying START-POINT, so for Git the >>>> command becomes "git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT". This >>>> could be on C-u (unless there're other frequent "customization" cases). >>> The existing API method has no argument for START-POINT. >>> Maybe every backend could handle its prefix arg directly >>> from current-prefix-arg? For example, >>> (defun vc-git-create-tag (dir name branchp) >>> (if current-prefix-arg (completion-read "Start point: ") ... >> >> Maybe we should add a new argument, an optional one. Then backends which >> don't support it can continue working without 'C-u' (we can make sure to >> call them with appropriate number of arguments) but will obviously fail >> when passed an extra argument. We could even catch the error and report >> that the backend doesn't support this feature. > > We need to add new optional arguments to another VC-API methods anyway, e.g. > > (vc-call-backend backend 'revision-completion-table files) > > needs a new argument 'branchp' to avoid the recently added hack > 'vc-git-revision-complete-only-branches' that can't be used > in the new command 'vc-switch-branch' by 'vc-read-revision' > (that also needs a new argument 'branchp'). This will probably help in vc-switch-branch (when the user wants to retrieve a tag, I guess they will use the tag-specific command). Not sure about other places: if we're talking about the START-POSITION argument, I suppose it is possible that the user will want to start a branch from a tag instead. Or any other kind of ref, but "raw" commit hashes aren't helpful in completion anyway. >> But maybe the command should prompt for START-POINT by default: one doesn't >> create branches that often to be bothered by an extra RET, and it can be >> useful to verify the branch you are branching off of every time you do >> it. That would be my preferred behavior. And the implementation could be >> the same if we manage to treat RET as unspecified START-POINT. > > Prompting for START-POINT by default is ok. The problem is how to handle > existing backends after adding new optional arguments to VC-API methods. > Maybe first to call with an extra argument, catch an error, then call again > without an extra argument? Yes, that's the method I was thinking of.
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Content preview: On 06.10.2021 19:28, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> Other commands, like maybe "C-x v b r" - rename, could be added then. >>> I can't find the existing vc API method for renaming tags/branches. >> I think th [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (raaahh[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.167.43 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.167.43 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [178.252.127.239 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN>, "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) On 06.10.2021 19:28, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> Other commands, like maybe "C-x v b r" - rename, could be added then. >>> I can't find the existing vc API method for renaming tags/branches. >> I think that's OK. > But even the current branch creating command fails for git. > For example, 'C-u C-x v s new_branch RET' fails with the error: > > (error "Failed (status 1): git --no-pager update-index --refresh .") > > and shows the*vc* buffer saying that modified files need update. > > Whereas `M-& git checkout -b new_branch` works fine with modified files. All right, yes, the current behavior is weird. It's actually documented in the description of the 'create-tag' action: ;; Attach the tag NAME to the state of the working copy. This ;; should make sure that files are up-to-date before proceeding with ;; the action. Perhaps ESR or Dan N. have a good justification for this, but it seems to me the contemporary expectation is that tags and branches are created from the committed revision history, and not from the "working copy". Some backends may choose to enforce this kind of limitation, but the more modern ones like Git or Hg should skip the check IMHO. And it seems, from looking at vc-hg-create-tag, Hg already skips it.
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Thanks. > > The following patch adds two new branch commands. > >> However, I don't use tags much (besides creation - only "git fetch >> --tags"), so I cannot add anything meaningful here. >> Otherwise, the plan for C-x v b prefix looks great. >> Other commands, like maybe "C-x v b r" - rename, could be added then. > > I can't find the existing vc API method for renaming tags/branches. I think that's OK. >> The command could have a mode for specifying START-POINT, so for Git the >> command becomes "git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT". This >> could be on C-u (unless there're other frequent "customization" cases). > > The existing API method has no argument for START-POINT. > Maybe every backend could handle its prefix arg directly > from current-prefix-arg? For example, > > (defun vc-git-create-tag (dir name branchp) > (if current-prefix-arg (completion-read "Start point: ") ... Maybe we should add a new argument, an optional one. Then backends which don't support it can continue working without 'C-u' (we can make sure to call them with appropriate number of arguments) but will obviously fail when passed an extra argument. We could even catch the error and report that the backend doesn't support this feature. But maybe the command should prompt for START-POINT by default: one doesn't create branches that often to be bothered by an extra RET, and it can be useful to verify the branch you are branching off of every time you do it. That would be my preferred behavior. And the implementation could be the same if we manage to treat RET as unspecified START-POINT. As long as the ability to read and show the current ref/branch is there for most backends (to show it as the default input in the prompt).
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>>> Maybe I should express this wish in a separate bug, but:
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>>> It would be nice if vc-create-tag allowed to specify start-point
>>> conveniently:
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>>> git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT
>>>
>>> Currently I do this in shell.
>>
>> Perhaps we could do that with 'C-u C-u'.
>>
>> Yes, a separate feature request is preferable.
>
> I'm also thinking of a separate command for branch creation, wrote all
> that in bug#50643. Thanks.
The following patch adds two new branch commands.
> However, I don't use tags much (besides creation - only "git fetch
> --tags"), so I cannot add anything meaningful here.
> Otherwise, the plan for C-x v b prefix looks great.
> Other commands, like maybe "C-x v b r" - rename, could be added then.
I can't find the existing vc API method for renaming tags/branches.
> The command could have a mode for specifying START-POINT, so for Git the
> command becomes "git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT". This
> could be on C-u (unless there're other frequent "customization" cases).
The existing API method has no argument for START-POINT.
Maybe every backend could handle its prefix arg directly
from current-prefix-arg? For example,
(defun vc-git-create-tag (dir name branchp)
(if current-prefix-arg (completion-read "Start point: ") ...
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diff --git a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
index b7760e3bba..2b6ebdfb74 100644
--- a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
+++ b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
@@ -865,6 +865,9 @@ vc-prefix-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(define-key map "a" #'vc-update-change-log)
(define-key map "b" #'vc-switch-backend)
+ (define-key map "Bc" #'vc-create-branch)
+ (define-key map "Bl" #'vc-print-branch-log)
+ (define-key map "Bs" #'vc-switch-branch)
(define-key map "d" #'vc-dir)
(define-key map "g" #'vc-annotate)
(define-key map "G" #'vc-ignore)
diff --git a/lisp/vc/vc.el b/lisp/vc/vc.el
index edc4169465..cdebf4a3d3 100644
--- a/lisp/vc/vc.el
+++ b/lisp/vc/vc.el
@@ -2350,7 +2372,23 @@ vc-create-tag
(message "Making %s... done" (if branchp "branch" "tag")))
;;;###autoload
-(defun vc-retrieve-tag (dir name)
+(defun vc-create-branch (dir name)
+ "Descending recursively from DIR, make a branch called NAME.
+After a new branch is made, the files are checked out in that new branch.
+Uses `vc-create-tag' with the non-nil arg `branchp'."
+ (interactive
+ (let ((granularity
+ (vc-call-backend (vc-responsible-backend default-directory)
+ 'revision-granularity)))
+ (list
+ (if (eq granularity 'repository)
+ default-directory
+ (read-directory-name "Directory: " default-directory default-directory t))
+ (read-string "New branch name: " nil 'vc-revision-history))))
+ (vc-create-tag dir name t))
+
+;;;###autoload
+(defun vc-retrieve-tag (dir name &optional branchp)
"For each file in or below DIR, retrieve their tagged version NAME.
NAME can name a branch, in which case this command will switch to the
named branch in the directory DIR.
@@ -2375,15 +2413,21 @@ vc-retrieve-tag
(read-directory-name "Directory: " default-directory nil t))))
(list
dir
- (vc-read-revision (format-prompt "Tag name to retrieve" "latest revisions")
+ (vc-read-revision (format-prompt
+ (if current-prefix-arg
+ "Branch name to retrieve"
+ "Tag name to retrieve")
+ "latest revisions")
(list dir)
- (vc-responsible-backend dir)))))
+ (vc-responsible-backend dir))
+ current-prefix-arg)))
(let* ((backend (vc-responsible-backend dir))
(update (when (vc-call-backend backend 'update-on-retrieve-tag)
(yes-or-no-p "Update any affected buffers? ")))
(msg (if (or (not name) (string= name ""))
(format "Updating %s... " (abbreviate-file-name dir))
- (format "Retrieving tag %s into %s... "
+ (format "Retrieving %s %s into %s... "
+ (if branchp "branch" "tag")
name (abbreviate-file-name dir)))))
(message "%s" msg)
(vc-call-backend backend 'retrieve-tag dir name update)
@@ -2391,6 +2435,25 @@ vc-retrieve-tag
(run-hooks 'vc-retrieve-tag-hook)
(message "%s" (concat msg "done"))))
+;;;###autoload
+(defun vc-switch-branch (dir name)
+ "Switch to the branch NAME in the directory DIR.
+If NAME is empty, it refers to the latest revisions of the current branch.
+Uses `vc-retrieve-tag' with the non-nil arg `branchp'."
+ (interactive
+ (let* ((granularity
+ (vc-call-backend (vc-responsible-backend default-directory)
+ 'revision-granularity))
+ (dir
+ (if (eq granularity 'repository)
+ (expand-file-name (vc-root-dir))
+ (read-directory-name "Directory: " default-directory nil t))))
+ (list
+ dir
+ (vc-read-revision (format-prompt "Branch name to retrieve" "latest revisions")
+ (list dir)
+ (vc-responsible-backend dir)))))
+ (vc-retrieve-tag dir name t))
;; Miscellaneous other entry points
--=-=-=--
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Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:31:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <bb5e5f63-e150-e54e-9e59-adeaf578a763@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2021 19:53:42 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> <8ea68c73-df86-7e65-a07f-77367e4a906f@HIDDEN> <87y27sfpxz.fsf@HIDDEN> <077bfc22-616e-cd67-3e84-e6917f9e2e53@HIDDEN> <87sfxzoimv.fsf@HIDDEN> <bb5e5f63-e150-e54e-9e59-adeaf578a763@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 20:31:13 +0300 Message-ID: <m2y27rf926.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 20/09/2021 19:53 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 20.09.2021 09:49, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> It makes sense to create a copy where the meaning of its arg >>>> is reversed, so by default it will operate on branches, >>>> and only with C-u on tags. >>> Yup. >>> >>> But I also wonder if reading START-POINT with completion (with current >>> branch name as default) will make sense for creating tags in all backends >>> too. >> You mean tag completion for creating tags? Maybe. > > Branch completion. To specify which branch tip to tag. > > This seems like an unusual thing to need to do, but if we keep branch > and tag creation on the same command, and add START-POINT completion by > default, it might become the expected behavior in both scenarios, no? I think also (maybe that's obvious, but still) that START-POINT auto-completion should include both branches and tags (because it's common to create a branch off some tag). Of course, it should allow specifying arbitrary commit hash.
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Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> <8ea68c73-df86-7e65-a07f-77367e4a906f@HIDDEN> <87y27sfpxz.fsf@HIDDEN> <077bfc22-616e-cd67-3e84-e6917f9e2e53@HIDDEN> <87sfxzoimv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <bb5e5f63-e150-e54e-9e59-adeaf578a763@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 19:53:42 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sfxzoimv.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 20.09.2021 09:49, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> It makes sense to create a copy where the meaning of its arg >>> is reversed, so by default it will operate on branches, >>> and only with C-u on tags. >> Yup. >> >> But I also wonder if reading START-POINT with completion (with current >> branch name as default) will make sense for creating tags in all backends >> too. > You mean tag completion for creating tags? Maybe. Branch completion. To specify which branch tip to tag. This seems like an unusual thing to need to do, but if we keep branch and tag creation on the same command, and add START-POINT completion by default, it might become the expected behavior in both scenarios, no?
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Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2021 22:03:42 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 18:59:59 +0300 Message-ID: <m235pzgruo.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 18/09/2021 22:03 +0300, Juri Linkov wrote: > Shouldn't tag commands be moved to another prefix key =E2=80=98C-x v t=E2= =80=99? > But I don't know how often tag commands are used. Sounds good, C-x v t is where I'd look for tag-related commands first. However, I don't use tags much (besides creation - only "git fetch --tags"), so I cannot add anything meaningful here. Otherwise, the plan for C-x v b prefix looks great. Other commands, like maybe "C-x v b r" - rename, could be added then. Filipp
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50344; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2021 07:10:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 20 03:10:50 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40847 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mSDRx-0002PX-Vm for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 03:10:50 -0400 Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:36973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mSDRv-0002P0-U6; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 03:10:48 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A28D20002; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 07:10:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> <8ea68c73-df86-7e65-a07f-77367e4a906f@HIDDEN> <87y27sfpxz.fsf@HIDDEN> <077bfc22-616e-cd67-3e84-e6917f9e2e53@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:49:36 +0300 In-Reply-To: <077bfc22-616e-cd67-3e84-e6917f9e2e53@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2021 03:33:56 +0300") Message-ID: <87sfxzoimv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> It makes sense to create a copy where the meaning of its arg >> is reversed, so by default it will operate on branches, >> and only with C-u on tags. > > Yup. > > But I also wonder if reading START-POINT with completion (with current > branch name as default) will make sense for creating tags in all backends > too. You mean tag completion for creating tags? Maybe.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50344; Package emacs.
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The other tag-related command doesn't differentiate between branches >> and tags. >> >> Would having essentially two copies of these, but with different names, be >> a good idea? > > It makes sense to create a copy where the meaning of its arg > is reversed, so by default it will operate on branches, > and only with C-u on tags. Yup. But I also wonder if reading START-POINT with completion (with current branch name as default) will make sense for creating tags in all backends too. >> Are there some VCS which would benefit from a more stricter differentiation >> between the two? Hg, perhaps? I don't know how branches work there. > > So the question is what backends already use the arg 'branchp'? > The search shows that vc-cvs-create-tag, vc-git-create-tag, > vc-hg-create-tag all use this arg. I thought of Hg in particular because there was a report or two citing some problems with how we handle them. And: "Mercurial offers a variety of approaches to branching, including “named branches”, “bookmarks” (most similar to git), “anonymous branches” and using clones." (https://markheath.net/post/using-named-branches-in-mercurial) That's basically all I know about it. The introduction in https://www.draketo.de/software/mercurial-branching-strategy, however, sounds very similar to Git's approach.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2021 17:15:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 19 13:15:38 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mS0Pi-0000CT-KB for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:15:38 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:50667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mS0Pg-0008WH-B2; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:15:37 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21E80240002; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:15:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> <8ea68c73-df86-7e65-a07f-77367e4a906f@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:04:16 +0300 In-Reply-To: <8ea68c73-df86-7e65-a07f-77367e4a906f@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2021 03:01:48 +0300") Message-ID: <87y27sfpxz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > So far we only have one tag command, and it doubles for branches with > 'C-u'. The other tag-related command doesn't differentiate between branches > and tags. > > Would having essentially two copies of these, but with different names, be > a good idea? It makes sense to create a copy where the meaning of its arg is reversed, so by default it will operate on branches, and only with C-u on tags. > Are there some VCS which would benefit from a more stricter differentiation > between the two? Hg, perhaps? I don't know how branches work there. So the question is what backends already use the arg 'branchp'? The search shows that vc-cvs-create-tag, vc-git-create-tag, vc-hg-create-tag all use this arg.
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Thanks. >> >> This part might actually fit better in this one: if we add a new command >> which will create a branch by default, then it will fit the new 'b' >> keymap best. > > 👍 for the new branch command. Until now, I avoided ‘vc-create-tag’ > to not make a mistake that will create a tag instead of the branch. > >> We could actually do the migration this way: create a new command which >> "flips" the branch-tag relationship and put it on 'C-v b c'. Then, if we're >> not removing the 'C-x s' binding in this release, we could obsolete the >> command in favor of the new one because people create branches more often >> tags tags these days (right?). > > Shouldn't tag commands be moved to another prefix key ‘C-x v t’? > But I don't know how often tag commands are used. So far we only have one tag command, and it doubles for branches with 'C-u'. The other tag-related command doesn't differentiate between branches and tags. Would having essentially two copies of these, but with different names, be a good idea? Are there some VCS which would benefit from a more stricter differentiation between the two? Hg, perhaps? I don't know how branches work there. Either way, we could put the same command in both keymaps, but I also don't know how often the tag commands are used for working with _tags_ these days. >> The command could also prompt for START-POINT by default: it shouldn't >> really hurt to press RET once more at the end. It can also be useful to >> double-check the branch you are currently branching from. > > A prompt for START-POINT would be fine with completion on branch names, > and saying what the default value will be used when exiting with RET. Yup!
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2021 19:05:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 18 15:05:40 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36928 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mRfee-0004mw-7Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:05:40 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:58377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mRfec-0004md-6Y; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:05:38 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4151C1C0002; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 19:05:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 22:03:42 +0300 In-Reply-To: <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2021 03:09:13 +0300") Message-ID: <874kahogdt.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>> It would be nice if vc-create-tag allowed to specify start-point >>>> conveniently: >>>> >>>> git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT >>>> >>>> Currently I do this in shell. >>> Perhaps we could do that with 'C-u C-u'. >>> >>> Yes, a separate feature request is preferable. >> I'm also thinking of a separate command for branch creation, wrote all >> that in bug#50643. Thanks. > > This part might actually fit better in this one: if we add a new command > which will create a branch by default, then it will fit the new 'b' > keymap best. 👍 for the new branch command. Until now, I avoided ‘vc-create-tag’ to not make a mistake that will create a tag instead of the branch. > We could actually do the migration this way: create a new command which > "flips" the branch-tag relationship and put it on 'C-v b c'. Then, if we're > not removing the 'C-x s' binding in this release, we could obsolete the > command in favor of the new one because people create branches more often > tags tags these days (right?). Shouldn't tag commands be moved to another prefix key ‘C-x v t’? But I don't know how often tag commands are used. > The command could also prompt for START-POINT by default: it shouldn't > really hurt to press RET once more at the end. It can also be useful to > double-check the branch you are currently branching from. A prompt for START-POINT would be fine with completion on branch names, and saying what the default value will be used when exiting with RET.
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Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log To: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <dc984fd4-5a85-a2e0-ad18-ccf1de8b82ff@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 03:09:13 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 50643 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) On 17.09.2021 18:15, Filipp Gunbin wrote: > On 16/09/2021 14:54 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > >> On 16.09.2021 14:46, Filipp Gunbin wrote: >>> Maybe I should express this wish in a separate bug, but: >>> >>> It would be nice if vc-create-tag allowed to specify start-point >>> conveniently: >>> >>> git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT >>> >>> Currently I do this in shell. >> Perhaps we could do that with 'C-u C-u'. >> >> Yes, a separate feature request is preferable. > I'm also thinking of a separate command for branch creation, wrote all > that in bug#50643. Thanks. This part might actually fit better in this one: if we add a new command which will create a branch by default, then it will fit the new 'b' keymap best. We could actually do the migration this way: create a new command which "flips" the branch-tag relationship and put it on 'C-v b c'. Then, if we're not removing the 'C-x s' binding in this release, we could obsolete the command in favor of the new one because people create branches more often tags tags these days (right?). What do people think? The command could also prompt for START-POINT by default: it shouldn't really hurt to press RET once more at the end. It can also be useful to double-check the branch you are currently branching from.
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Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 16 Sep 2021 14:54:06 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> <85dfa858-091b-80df-b9d1-bd1136c2b91e@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 18:15:46 +0300 Message-ID: <m24kajutb1.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 16/09/2021 14:54 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 16.09.2021 14:46, Filipp Gunbin wrote: >> Maybe I should express this wish in a separate bug, but: >> >> It would be nice if vc-create-tag allowed to specify start-point >> conveniently: >> >> git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT >> >> Currently I do this in shell. > > Perhaps we could do that with 'C-u C-u'. > > Yes, a separate feature request is preferable. I'm also thinking of a separate command for branch creation, wrote all that in bug#50643. Thanks.
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Thu, 16 Sep 2021 07:46:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log In-Reply-To: <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 09 Sep 2021 20:39:57 +0300") References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 14:46:31 +0300 Message-ID: <m2h7ekg2ug.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 09/09/2021 20:39 +0300, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> Speaking of (re)moving bindings: 'C-x v b' (vc-switch-backend) seems >>>> particularly useless. >>> Oh, wow. What's the use case for that command? I can't imagine when >>> that would actually do something useful... And it's a really old >>> command, too -- perhaps this was something that made sense in an RCS >>> world? >> >> I think it's for the case of nested repositories, like in bug#42966 and >> other linked reports. And perhaps our detection might make the wrong >> choice, thus it can be tweaked manually. >> >> I don't have any specific scenario in mind, though. Or personal experience >> with such nesting. >> >>>> If we do this the conservative way, though, the whole procedure can >>>> span half a decade: >>>> >>>> - Move vc-switch-backend to 'C-x v B' (Emacs 28) >>>> - Move branch-map to 'b' and vc-create-tag to 'C-x v b c' (Emacs 29) >>>> - Finally move vc-search-log to 'C-x v s' (Emacs 30) >>> We could do the first two steps in Emacs 28, perhaps -- if anybody's >>> actually using `C-x v b', they'll then get >>> C-x v b- >>> in the echo area, which should tell them that something's different is >>> happening now... >> >> Works for me. >> >> Juri, what do you say? > > I think in the long-term it would be nice to have these keybindings: > > C-x v B - vc-switch-backend > C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) > C-x v b l - vc-print-branch-log > C-x v b s - vc-retrieve-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-switch-branch'?) > C-x v s - vc-log-search > C-x v r - free, any ideas what to bind to it? > > Since `C-x v b' will show "C-x v b-" in the echo area, > and `C-x v s' will show "Search log with pattern: " in the minibuffer. > and `C-x v r' will show "C-x v r is undefined", > I see no problem in adding all keybindings before the next release. Maybe I should express this wish in a separate bug, but: It would be nice if vc-create-tag allowed to specify start-point conveniently: git checkout -b new-branch-name START-POINT Currently I do this in shell. Filipp.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 08:02:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 13 04:02:20 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mPguy-00033F-OH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:02:20 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:39649) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mPguv-00032a-UR for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:02:18 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66D7CE0002; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:02:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0jora9d.fsf@HIDDEN> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:47:01 +0300 In-Reply-To: <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:26:13 +0300") Message-ID: <874kaptwki.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> But... perhaps we should take this to emacs-devel to see whether other >> people feel differently? > > Some people might feel the desire to express general objection to seeing > anything changed. I realized that quite likely many users already rely on 'C-x v s' and 'C-x v r' to create/switch branches because currently there is no other quick way to do these frequent actions. OTOH, I don't believe that 'vc-switch-backend' is used often. So it seems pretty safe to just create a new prefix key map for 'C-x v b', and rebind 'vc-switch-backend' to 'C-x v B'. Then leave 'C-x v r' and 'C-x v s' unchanged to give users time to adopt to the new branch-related prefix map 'C-x v b'.
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>> vc-rename-file, perhaps? > Or use it as a prefix key to allow more keybindings, e.g. > with mnemonics "revision" to navigate the history like > in vc-annotate: 'C-x v r n' (revision-next), 'C-x v r p' (previous), ... Do you have some particular commands in mind? In general, when we check out a file at a different revision, revision's name is appended to the file name. So the same kind of iteration as with vc-annotate will not work.
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Content preview: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > I think in the long-term it would be nice to have these keybindings: > > C-x v B - vc-switch-backend > C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) > C-x v b l - vc- [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > I think in the long-term it would be nice to have these keybindings: > > C-x v B - vc-switch-backend > C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) > C-x v b l - vc-print-branch-log > C-x v b s - vc-retrieve-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-switch-branch'?) > C-x v s - vc-log-search > C-x v r - free, any ideas what to bind to it? > > Since `C-x v b' will show "C-x v b-" in the echo area, > and `C-x v s' will show "Search log with pattern: " in the minibuffer. > and `C-x v r' will show "C-x v r is undefined", > I see no problem in adding all keybindings before the next release. It's an ambitious rebinding... but the new bindings are clearly an improvement, and none of the commands that are being rebound to/from are things that "do things immediately", but instead prompt for further input, so the potential for this to destroy people's repositories should be lessened. But... perhaps we should take this to emacs-devel to see whether other people feel differently? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2021 06:57:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 10 02:57:27 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mOaTW-000281-Sp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:57:27 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:45643) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mOaTV-00027e-CI for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:57:25 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93E4D1BF211; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 06:57:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> <0fbdf283-ad2c-1674-ad27-2ac596df7b6d@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:46:28 +0300 In-Reply-To: <0fbdf283-ad2c-1674-ad27-2ac596df7b6d@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:18:12 +0300") Message-ID: <87zgsk536r.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> C-x v B - vc-switch-backend >> C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) >> C-x v b l - vc-print-branch-log >> C-x v b s - vc-retrieve-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-switch-branch'?) >> C-x v s - vc-log-search >> C-x v r - free, any ideas what to bind to it? > > vc-rename-file, perhaps? Or use it as a prefix key to allow more keybindings, e.g. with mnemonics "revision" to navigate the history like in vc-annotate: 'C-x v r n' (revision-next), 'C-x v r p' (previous), ...
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> > I think in the long-term it would be nice to have these keybindings: > > C-x v B - vc-switch-backend > C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) > C-x v b l - vc-print-branch-log > C-x v b s - vc-retrieve-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-switch-branch'?) > C-x v s - vc-log-search > C-x v r - free, any ideas what to bind to it? vc-rename-file, perhaps? > Since `C-x v b' will show "C-x v b-" in the echo area, > and `C-x v s' will show "Search log with pattern: " in the minibuffer. > and `C-x v r' will show "C-x v r is undefined", > I see no problem in adding all keybindings before the next release. It's a bit too optimistic even for me. But no objections, really. I'd like to leave it up to Lars to choose the exact line between being conservative and bringing better bindings to the users sooner.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2021 17:58:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 09 13:58:33 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36171 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mOOJl-0007hB-97 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:58:33 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:45605) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mOOJh-0007gW-5c for 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:58:29 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41664C0004; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@HIDDEN> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@HIDDEN> <87o8998wf4.fsf@HIDDEN> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@HIDDEN> <875yvgvohe.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y28burzd.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o896kt5k.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@HIDDEN> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@HIDDEN> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 20:39:57 +0300 In-Reply-To: <e5ee5a3c-3f12-cf78-dfd3-0d020847e0c8@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:59:18 +0300") Message-ID: <87fsudsngq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> Speaking of (re)moving bindings: 'C-x v b' (vc-switch-backend) seems >>> particularly useless. >> Oh, wow. What's the use case for that command? I can't imagine when >> that would actually do something useful... And it's a really old >> command, too -- perhaps this was something that made sense in an RCS >> world? > > I think it's for the case of nested repositories, like in bug#42966 and > other linked reports. And perhaps our detection might make the wrong > choice, thus it can be tweaked manually. > > I don't have any specific scenario in mind, though. Or personal experience > with such nesting. > >>> If we do this the conservative way, though, the whole procedure can >>> span half a decade: >>> >>> - Move vc-switch-backend to 'C-x v B' (Emacs 28) >>> - Move branch-map to 'b' and vc-create-tag to 'C-x v b c' (Emacs 29) >>> - Finally move vc-search-log to 'C-x v s' (Emacs 30) >> We could do the first two steps in Emacs 28, perhaps -- if anybody's >> actually using `C-x v b', they'll then get >> C-x v b- >> in the echo area, which should tell them that something's different is >> happening now... > > Works for me. > > Juri, what do you say? I think in the long-term it would be nice to have these keybindings: C-x v B - vc-switch-backend C-x v b c - vc-create-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-create-branch'?) C-x v b l - vc-print-branch-log C-x v b s - vc-retrieve-tag (maybe it should have an alias 'vc-switch-branch'?) C-x v s - vc-log-search C-x v r - free, any ideas what to bind to it? Since `C-x v b' will show "C-x v b-" in the echo area, and `C-x v s' will show "Search log with pattern: " in the minibuffer. and `C-x v r' will show "C-x v r is undefined", I see no problem in adding all keybindings before the next release.
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What's the use case for that command? I can't imagine when > that would actually do something useful... And it's a really old > command, too -- perhaps this was something that made sense in an RCS > world? I think it's for the case of nested repositories, like in bug#42966 and other linked reports. And perhaps our detection might make the wrong choice, thus it can be tweaked manually. I don't have any specific scenario in mind, though. Or personal experience with such nesting. >> If we do this the conservative way, though, the whole procedure can >> span half a decade: >> >> - Move vc-switch-backend to 'C-x v B' (Emacs 28) >> - Move branch-map to 'b' and vc-create-tag to 'C-x v b c' (Emacs 29) >> - Finally move vc-search-log to 'C-x v s' (Emacs 30) > > We could do the first two steps in Emacs 28, perhaps -- if anybody's > actually using `C-x v b', they'll then get > > C-x v b- > > in the echo area, which should tell them that something's different is > happening now... Works for me. Juri, what do you say?
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Speaking of (re)moving bindings: 'C-x v b' (vc-switch-backend) seems > particularly useless. Oh, wow. What's the use case for that command? I can't imagine when that would actually do something useful... And it's a really old command, too -- perhaps this was something that made sense in an RC [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50344 Cc: 50344 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Speaking of (re)moving bindings: 'C-x v b' (vc-switch-backend) seems > particularly useless. Oh, wow. What's the use case for that command? I can't imagine when that would actually do something useful... And it's a really old command, too -- perhaps this was something that made sense in an RCS world? > If we do this the conservative way, though, the whole procedure can > span half a decade: > > - Move vc-switch-backend to 'C-x v B' (Emacs 28) > - Move branch-map to 'b' and vc-create-tag to 'C-x v b c' (Emacs 29) > - Finally move vc-search-log to 'C-x v s' (Emacs 30) We could do the first two steps in Emacs 28, perhaps -- if anybody's actually using `C-x v b', they'll then get C-x v b- in the echo area, which should tell them that something's different is happening now... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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As long as it doesn't do anything dangerous right away, that could fly. Of course, people can still complain. Depends on how popular it is. > Yeah, I didn't mean rebind it immediately -- we can remove the binding > now, and then reuse the binding in a couple of releases. Speaking of (re)moving bindings: 'C-x v b' (vc-switch-backend) seems particularly useless. If it weren't there, the newly added branch commands could use the nicer prefix instead of 'C-x v B'. branch-map in vc-dir could also be changed to use 'b' (not sure why 'B' was chosen there originally: there is no conflict). Maybe vc-switch-backend sees some occasional use, but moving it to something like 'C-x v B' would be more appropriate. Or some other longer/complex sequence. If we do this the conservative way, though, the whole procedure can span half a decade: - Move vc-switch-backend to 'C-x v B' (Emacs 28) - Move branch-map to 'b' and vc-create-tag to 'C-x v b c' (Emacs 29) - Finally move vc-search-log to 'C-x v s' (Emacs 30)
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>>> I think we want more to remove another duplicate key 'C-x v s'
>>> because then we could bind it to 'vc-log-search'.
>>
>> That works for me. And indeed vc-log-search seems more important.
>>
>> What do others think?
>
> Then it would be only on `B c' in vc-dir-mode? `C-x v s' isn't very
> mnemonic, but would removing it from global map inconvenience people?
> (I've never used it myself.)
Indeed, it seems there is no way to remove old keybindings, especially
by rebinding them to other commands, so I propose to add new keybindings:
diff --git a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
index 4b3c829a2c..4d3f642796 100644
--- a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
+++ b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
@@ -865,6 +865,9 @@ vc-prefix-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(define-key map "a" #'vc-update-change-log)
(define-key map "b" #'vc-switch-backend)
+ (define-key map "Bc" #'vc-create-tag)
+ (define-key map "Bl" #'vc-print-branch-log)
+ (define-key map "Bs" #'vc-retrieve-tag)
(define-key map "d" #'vc-dir)
(define-key map "g" #'vc-annotate)
(define-key map "G" #'vc-ignore)
@@ -879,6 +882,7 @@ vc-prefix-map
(define-key map "m" #'vc-merge)
(define-key map "r" #'vc-retrieve-tag)
(define-key map "s" #'vc-create-tag)
+ (define-key map "S" #'vc-log-search)
(define-key map "u" #'vc-revert)
(define-key map "v" #'vc-next-action)
(define-key map "+" #'vc-update)
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While vc-print-branch-log is a frequently used command, it still has no
keybinding in vc-prefix-map. But it has a keybinding in vc-dir-mode-map.
Many keys are already shared between vc-prefix-map and vc-dir-mode-map, e.g.:
(defvar vc-dir-mode-map
;; VC commands
(define-key map "v" #'vc-next-action) ;; C-x v v
(define-key map "=" #'vc-diff) ;; C-x v =
(define-key map "D" #'vc-root-diff) ;; C-x v D
(define-key map "i" #'vc-register) ;; C-x v i
(define-key map "+" #'vc-update) ;; C-x v +
(define-key map "P" #'vc-push) ;; C-x v P
(define-key map "l" #'vc-print-log) ;; C-x v l
(define-key map "L" #'vc-print-root-log) ;; C-x v L
(define-key map "I" #'vc-log-incoming) ;; C-x v I
(define-key map "O" #'vc-log-outgoing) ;; C-x v O
Also vc-dir-mode-map has branch keys:
(let ((branch-map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(define-key map "B" branch-map)
(define-key branch-map "c" #'vc-create-tag)
(define-key branch-map "l" #'vc-print-branch-log)
(define-key branch-map "s" #'vc-retrieve-tag))
So it makes sense to copy branch keys from vc-dir-mode-map
to vc-prefix-map:
diff --git a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
index 4b3c829a2c..d039c400c5 100644
--- a/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
+++ b/lisp/vc/vc-hooks.el
@@ -865,6 +865,9 @@ vc-prefix-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(define-key map "a" #'vc-update-change-log)
(define-key map "b" #'vc-switch-backend)
+ (define-key map "Bc" #'vc-create-tag)
+ (define-key map "Bl" #'vc-print-branch-log)
+ (define-key map "Bs" #'vc-retrieve-tag)
(define-key map "d" #'vc-dir)
(define-key map "g" #'vc-annotate)
(define-key map "G" #'vc-ignore)
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