Received: (at 50686) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2021 06:23:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 20 02:23:10 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mSChq-0007Pe-4t for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 02:23:10 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mSCho-0007PI-E9 for 50686 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 02:23:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T8n+qCshDYWcwiEGIdbHFAXo9AqjOJu2k9oBQLLMkp8=; b=TbOyZ5XnyM0hRISPK74EcUCJIG UowHncx4myhZgTPDOQsXJRbu+ZamIrGWOuO28QIEepNXNU/yta9BliqMimxfG1g0SEkdazzv2GqT1 o0mhbI7JP3Mrl1yS/vxk1t9NxISa1xt/j7Nezt5fESPEHaSvYYaLe1bSc0piFOglV0rU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mSChe-0006Fz-Rd; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:23:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50686: Show number of downloads on packages on GNU ELPA/NonGNU ELPA References: <CADwFkmnVhf-23SbEC3K-i9mAxani_bNWSbv8E8MPQ4ic5SCTrg@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:22:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnVhf-23SbEC3K-i9mAxani_bNWSbv8E8MPQ4ic5SCTrg@HIDDEN> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2021 14:13:08 -0700") Message-ID: <87h7efix4t.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > I think we should show the number of downloads on packages on GNU ELPA > and NonGNU ELPA. This information should be shown on both the package > page, and in the package listing. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50686 Cc: 50686 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > I think we should show the number of downloads on packages on GNU ELPA > and NonGNU ELPA. This information should be shown on both the package > page, and in the package listing. I think that's a very good idea. There's an information disclosure issue, I guess, but the privacy implications should be pretty much non-existent. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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