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Full text available.Received: (at 50776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 06:00:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 25 02:00:21 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mU0jV-0004OM-Hw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 02:00:21 -0400 Received: from olivedrab.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.135]:1595) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jidanni@HIDDEN>) id 1mU0jS-0004O6-Iy for 50776 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 02:00:20 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFA0920E77; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 06:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [127.0.0.6]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D6974920E5D; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 06:00:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.123.194.20 (trex/6.4.3); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 06:00:16 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Bottle-Chief: 222610096d0fbae3_1632549615975_3303749449 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1632549615975:810391002 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1632549615975 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D51E7E77F; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 23:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=6rkhRtvOJ81U7Ven86prolV+goA=; b=guHuLNKLdQRbh ZPzlIttspozo22H784lnd3RQ6qAVHGGWGAJBZEHTaFFWGvn8h0u8RKMCE1n6AkzQ fWc2bY9xWlbvhqNzwtappw/cg53o40gOZnXAUx8gVK3WEbK1jSI+k2Wr2tVfTtU+ ScvHeaDvBSz8nMJuvqio9XCFDShQjk= Received: from jidanni.org (36-234-71-155.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [36.234.71.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@HIDDEN) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FD297E692; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a91 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50776: add "ispell show where we looked" command References: <878rzm85zs.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnn6rszb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y27m6pug.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <877df6m38h.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:00:05 +0800 Message-ID: <87czoxchzu.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50776 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 50776 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Anyway, user notices emacs says "jitter" is a misspelling. There should be an easy way to report that it is not a misspelling, so that others won't encounter the problem. So maybe an ispell-report-non-problem-word function.
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Subject: Re: bug#50776: add "ispell show where we looked" command
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Sort of like how C-u C-x = will show one the font used,
x:-eten-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-160-big5.eten-0 (#xBF6E)
So I would like a way to have it show the dictionary(s) used.
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Full text available.Received: (at 50776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2021 15:46:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 24 11:46:26 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59088 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mTnP7-0003aW-Rn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 11:46:25 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:39927) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mTnP4-0003a1-6S for 50776 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 11:46:22 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0372FF802; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 15:46:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#50776: add "ispell show where we looked" command Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <878rzm85zs.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnn6rszb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y27m6pug.5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:36:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87y27m6pug.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:54:47 +0800") Message-ID: <877df6m38h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50776 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 50776 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > So it the new key press should say: > Checked for "jitter" and didn't find it in > 1. /usr/..../bla `ispell-region' displays such message: Spell-checking region using hunspell with klingon dictionary... So `?' for `ispell-word' could do the same.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: EZ> I don't understand: there's only one dictionary, the current one. That's great to know. So it the new key press should say: Checked for "jitter" and didn't find it in 1. /usr/..../bla Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?23.83.212.4>] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [23.83.212.4 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [23.83.212.4 listed in wl.mailspike.net] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50776 Cc: 50776 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: EZ> I don't understand: there's only one dictionary, the current one. That's great to know. So it the new key press should say: Checked for "jitter" and didn't find it in 1. /usr/..../bla That way we can be sure.
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From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Subject: add "ispell show where we looked" command
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:20:39 +0800
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Regarding
ispell-help is an autoloaded compiled Lisp function in =E2=80=98ispe=
ll.el=E2=80=99.
(ispell-help)
Display a list of the options available when a misspelling is encoun=
tered.
Selections are:
DIGIT: Replace the word with a digit offered in the *Choices* buffer=
.
SPC: Accept word this time.
=E2=80=98i=E2=80=99: Accept word and insert into private dictionar=
y.
=E2=80=98a=E2=80=99: Accept word for this session.
=E2=80=98A=E2=80=99: Accept word and place in =E2=80=98buffer-loca=
l dictionary=E2=80=99.
=E2=80=98r=E2=80=99: Replace word with typed-in value. Rechecked.
=E2=80=98R=E2=80=99: Replace word with typed-in value. Query-repl=
aced in buffer. Rechecked.
=E2=80=98?=E2=80=99: Show these commands.
=E2=80=98x=E2=80=99: Exit spelling buffer. Move cursor to origina=
l point.
=E2=80=98X=E2=80=99: Exit spelling buffer. Leaves cursor at the c=
urrent point, and permits
the aborted check to be completed later.
=E2=80=98q=E2=80=99: Quit spelling session (Kills ispell process).
=E2=80=98l=E2=80=99: Look up typed-in replacement in alternate dic=
tionary. Wildcards okay.
=E2=80=98u=E2=80=99: Like =E2=80=98i=E2=80=99, but the word is low=
er-cased first.
=E2=80=98m=E2=80=99: Place typed-in value in personal dictionary, =
then recheck current word.
=E2=80=98C-l=E2=80=99: Redraw screen.
=E2=80=98C-r=E2=80=99: Recursive edit.
=E2=80=98C-z=E2=80=99: Suspend Emacs or iconify frame.
Please add one more:
Show all the dictionaries that were checked when looking for (and not
finding) the word.
That way one could figure out why e.g., "jitter" is misspelled in emacs,
but not in the shell's ispell.
Sure, there are various alists, but we want to see where it really looked=
.
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Full text available.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#50776; Package emacs.
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