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28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected

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From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:00:17 +0200

Hello,

I would like to start Emacs without loading the X resources from
/usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Emacs. It seems that "--name myname" should
do that, but using this option, the X resources are still loaded.

What is the right way, to avoid loading these X resources please?

My workaround: "emacs -Q -user peter"

TIA for any hints,
-- 
           Peter

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:22:46 +0300

> From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:00:17 +0200
> 
> I would like to start Emacs without loading the X resources from
> /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Emacs. It seems that "--name myname" should
> do that, but using this option, the X resources are still loaded.
> 
> What is the right way, to avoid loading these X resources please?

As "emacs --help" says, the right way is to use the --no-x-resources
command-line switch.  Did you try that?

Message #11 received at 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:12:48 +0200

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On Tue, Sep 28 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> As "emacs --help" says, the right way is to use the --no-x-resources
> command-line switch.  Did you try that?

I've just tried: yes it works. Thanks!

This option is missing in doc/man/emacs.1

-- 
           Peter

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Message #14 received at 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:16:51 +0300

> From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
> Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:12:48 +0200
> 
> On Tue, Sep 28 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > As "emacs --help" says, the right way is to use the --no-x-resources
> > command-line switch.  Did you try that?
> 
> I've just tried: yes it works. Thanks!
> 
> This option is missing in doc/man/emacs.1

Why are you using the man page instead of the Info manual?  The former
is just a lip service, and doesn't pretend to be complete in any way.

Message #17 received at 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:51:36 +0200

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On Tue, Sep 28 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> Why are you using the man page instead of the Info manual?

A habit...


> The former is just a lip service, and doesn't pretend to be complete
> in any way.

Sorry, I didn't know that. From now on, I'll use the Info manual.

-- 
           Peter

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Message #20 received at 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:00:03 +0300

tags 50855 notabug
close 50855
thanks

> From: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>
> Cc: 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:51:36 +0200
> 
> > The former is just a lip service, and doesn't pretend to be complete
> > in any way.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't know that. From now on, I'll use the Info manual.

No need to apologize.  In general, the GNU project considers man pages
an inferior documentation means, compared to Info manuals.

And with that, I'm closing this bug report.

Message #27 received at 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Peter Münster <pm <at> a16n.net>, 50855 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50855: 28.0.50; option --name does not work as expected
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:03:39 -0700

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> No need to apologize.  In general, the GNU project considers man pages
> an inferior documentation means, compared to Info manuals.

I've updated the man page to include the "--no-x-resources" flag.

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