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#51271
Typo's in Emacs documentation
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Reported by: Mor Zahavi <morzahavi <at> me.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:33:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Fixed in version 28.1
Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
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Hi,
Shouldn’t it be “… many kinds of atoms”?
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close 51271 28.1
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Mor Zahavi <morzahavi <at> me.com> writes:
> Shouldn’t it be “… many kinds of atoms”?
This is the text from (info "(eintr) Lisp Atoms"):
There are many kinds of atom in nature but only a few in Lisp: for
example, “numbers”, such as 37, 511, or 1729, and “symbols”, such as
‘+’, ‘foo’, or ‘forward-line’.
I think that it should indeed be "many kinds of atoms" here, so I have
now fixed this on emacs-28 (commit 98eb6d783a). This change will be a
part of the upcoming Emacs 28.1.
Thanks for the bug report!
bug marked as fixed in version 28.1, send any further explanations to
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Hi
You didn’t fix it
[Emacs 29 native comp]
From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Date: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 at 3:45
To: Mor Zahavi <morzahavi <at> me.com>
Cc: 51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#51271: Typo's in Emacs documentation
close 51271 28.1
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Mor Zahavi <morzahavi <at> me.com> writes:
> Shouldn’t it be “… many kinds of atoms”?
This is the text from (info "(eintr) Lisp Atoms"):
There are many kinds of atom in nature but only a few in Lisp: for
example, “numbers”, such as 37, 511, or 1729, and “symbols”, such as
‘+’, ‘foo’, or ‘forward-line’.
I think that it should indeed be "many kinds of atoms" here, so I have
now fixed this on emacs-28 (commit 98eb6d783a). This change will be a
part of the upcoming Emacs 28.1.
Thanks for the bug report!
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> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:05:44 +0000
> From: "morzahavi <at> me.com" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
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> You didn’t fix it
Stefan did fix it. But I reverted the fix, because the original
wording was not a mistake, it's correct English. I added a comment
there explaining why it is correct and even better than the "fixed"
one.
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I don’t understand – how can there be many kinds of a singular form? How can there be a few of a singular form?
Even when I replace “Atom” with “indivisible” it sounds quirky. When I use “indivisibles” it sounds much better in my opinion.
Where is the comment you’ve added?
Thanks Eli!
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Date: Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 18:41
To: morzahavi <at> me.com <morzahavi <at> me.com>
Cc: stefan <at> marxist.se <stefan <at> marxist.se>, 51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#51271: Typo's in Emacs documentation
> Cc: "51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:05:44 +0000
> From: "morzahavi <at> me.com" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
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> You didn’t fix it
Stefan did fix it. But I reverted the fix, because the original
wording was not a mistake, it's correct English. I added a comment
there explaining why it is correct and even better than the "fixed"
one.
Thanks.
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> From: "morzahavi <at> me.com" <morzahavi <at> me.com>
> CC: "stefan <at> marxist.se" <stefan <at> marxist.se>, "51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
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> I don’t understand – how can there be many kinds of a singular form? How can there be a few of a singular
> form?
It's a special English form that is relatively rarely used. But it is
nevertheless correct.
> Where is the comment you’ve added?
In the Texinfo source. I show it below:
@c This and the next paragraph say ``kinds of atom'', but that is not
@c a typo, just slightly ``old-fashioned wording which adds a fillip
@c of interest to it'', and ``is more elegant writing'', according to
@c RMS.
As you see, I consulted with Richard Stallman about this issue,
because I had a gut feeling the original wording was correct, but
wasn't sure. Bob Chassell, who wrote that manual, always used 100%
correct English.
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Great – I have learned something new.
Thanks Eli for all your work.
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Date: Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 19:14
To: morzahavi <at> me.com <morzahavi <at> me.com>
Cc: stefan <at> marxist.se <stefan <at> marxist.se>, 51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#51271: Typo's in Emacs documentation
> From: "morzahavi <at> me.com" <morzahavi <at> me.com>
> CC: "stefan <at> marxist.se" <stefan <at> marxist.se>, "51271 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
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> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:59:21 +0000
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> I don’t understand – how can there be many kinds of a singular form? How can there be a few of a singular
> form?
It's a special English form that is relatively rarely used. But it is
nevertheless correct.
> Where is the comment you’ve added?
In the Texinfo source. I show it below:
@c This and the next paragraph say ``kinds of atom'', but that is not
@c a typo, just slightly ``old-fashioned wording which adds a fillip
@c of interest to it'', and ``is more elegant writing'', according to
@c RMS.
As you see, I consulted with Richard Stallman about this issue,
because I had a gut feeling the original wording was correct, but
wasn't sure. Bob Chassell, who wrote that manual, always used 100%
correct English.
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