GNU bug report logs - #51279
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From: Brad Knotwell <bknotwell <at> yahoo.com>
To: bug-hyperbole <at> gnu.org
Subject: Be explicit here.  Make a statement or ask a question.
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 23:49:47 -0700

I was testing with 8.0.0pre and noticed that some of (at least one but
probably more; C-C .) org-mode's key bindings are gone when the
hyperbole minor mode is enabled. While a user can explicitly disable
hyperbole's minor mode to get the key bindings back, most users will
probably find this surprising.  Due to this, I ended up reverting to
7.1.3.

I also noticed that the docs recommend calling (hyperbole-mode 1)
instead of (require 'hyperbole) to initialize the newest version.  This
was unexpected as well.

Thx.

--Brad

I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0, Carbon Version 158 AppKit 1561.6)

        Hyperbole:   7.1.3
        Sys Type:    x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0
        OS Type:     darwin
        Window Sys:  mac
        News Reader: Gnus v5.13

From: Robert Weiner <rsw <at> gnu.org>
To: 51279 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Fwd: bug#51279: Hyperbole 8.0.0pre overrides Org {C-c .} binding
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:00:35 -0500

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Brad Knotwell <bknotwell <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> I was testing with 8.0.0pre and noticed that some of (at least one but
> probably more; C-C .) org-mode's key bindings are gone when the
> hyperbole minor mode is enabled. While a user can explicitly disable
> hyperbole's minor mode to get the key bindings back, most users will
> probably find this surprising.  Due to this, I ended up reverting to
> 7.1.3.

Hi Brad:

Sorry, we've been working on the release and not monitoring these
messages; just saw this.  You are right, we'll look at how best to
handle sharing the C-c map between Org and Hyperbole and make some
updates.  Thanks for pointing this out.  We really need active Org
users to point out any incompatibilities.

> I also noticed that the docs recommend calling (hyperbole-mode 1)
> instead of (require 'hyperbole) to initialize the newest version.  This
> was unexpected as well.

Yes, this is a change to the setup for V8 since Hyperbole is now a minor
mode.  The install and usage docs make it pretty clear, I believe.

Thanks again,

Bob

>
> Thx.
>
> --Brad
>
> I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0,
Carbon Version 158 AppKit 1561.6)
>
>         Hyperbole:   7.1.3
>         Sys Type:    x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0
>         OS Type:     darwin
>         Window Sys:  mac
>         News Reader: Gnus v5.13

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From: Robert Weiner <rswgnu <at> gmail.com>
To: rswgnu <at> gmail.com
Cc: 51279 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#51279: Fwd: bug#51279: Hyperbole 8.0.0pre overrides Org {C-c
 .} binding
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:05:02 -0500

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This has been resolved in the latest Hyperbole master git tip.  Update to the latest pre-release and Hyperbole should run the same command as Org mode does for any C-c binding.

Please close this issue after testing.

-- Bob

> On Jan 30, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Robert Weiner <rsw <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Brad Knotwell <bknotwell <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > I was testing with 8.0.0pre and noticed that some of (at least one but
> > probably more; C-C .) org-mode's key bindings are gone when the
> > hyperbole minor mode is enabled. While a user can explicitly disable
> > hyperbole's minor mode to get the key bindings back, most users will
> > probably find this surprising.  Due to this, I ended up reverting to
> > 7.1.3.
> 
> Hi Brad:
> 
> Sorry, we've been working on the release and not monitoring these
> messages; just saw this.  You are right, we'll look at how best to
> handle sharing the C-c map between Org and Hyperbole and make some
> updates.  Thanks for pointing this out.  We really need active Org
> users to point out any incompatibilities.
> 
> > I also noticed that the docs recommend calling (hyperbole-mode 1)
> > instead of (require 'hyperbole) to initialize the newest version.  This
> > was unexpected as well.
> 
> Yes, this is a change to the setup for V8 since Hyperbole is now a minor
> mode.  The install and usage docs make it pretty clear, I believe.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Bob
> 
> >
> > Thx.
> >
> > --Brad
> >
> > I use:  Editor:      GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0, Carbon Version 158 AppKit 1561.6)
> >
> >         Hyperbole:   7.1.3
> >         Sys Type:    x86_64-apple-darwin17.7.0
> >         OS Type:     darwin
> >         Window Sys:  mac
> >         News Reader: Gnus v5.13
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GNU bug report logs - #51279
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