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Do you think it would be a good idea? > > At least, currently there is consistency in naming of > image-transform-* functions and variables. Whether > selecting such a prefix was a good choice is another question. > > But if you see a problem only in the name of image-transform-original, > then it could be renamed to image-transform-set-original or maybe > better to image-transform-reset-to-original, i.e. to something more > descriptive, while keeping the existing name prefix. > > PS: renaming to image-transform-reset-to-original will also require > renaming image-transform-reset to image-transform-reset-to-initial. Thanks. I've now changed this as you suggest (commit 37fe0cd358).
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Full text available.Received: (at 51451) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2021 19:52:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 31 15:52:18 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mhGsM-00027P-N5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:52:18 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:58191) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mhGsK-00027A-86 for 51451 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:52:16 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FA2A200004; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:52:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#51451: image-transform-original has a misleading name Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <CADwFkmm6C90H+24+WHkqg9qnBQGsPe9-WOGeP-dwokYLNNicqQ@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:46:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmm6C90H+24+WHkqg9qnBQGsPe9-WOGeP-dwokYLNNicqQ@HIDDEN> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2021 17:31:48 -0700") Message-ID: <87ilxdnsbu.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 51451 Cc: 51451 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > These are the commands under the "s" key in image-mode: > > s 0 image-transform-reset > s b image-transform-fit-both > s f image-mode-fit-frame > s h image-transform-fit-to-height > s m image-transform-set-smoothing > s o image-transform-original > s r image-transform-set-rotation > s s image-transform-set-scale > s w image-transform-fit-to-width > > Perhaps this would be less confusing if these commands were named > `image-display-*' instead of `image-transform-*'? > > s 0 image-display-reset-size > s b image-display-fit-both > s f image-mode-fit-frame > s h image-display-fit-to-height > s m image-display-set-smoothing > s o image-display-original-size > s r image-display-set-rotation > s s image-display-set-scale > s w image-display-fit-to-width > > Doesn't that make more sense? image-transform-* commands are modifying the values of image-transform-* variables. Would you propose to rename variables as well?
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Subject: image-transform-original has a misleading name
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This is the docstring of `image-transform-original'.
(image-transform-original)
Display the current image with the original (actual) size and
rotation.
From reading this it is clear what it does, but the command name makes
it sound like it will transform the original image.
These are the commands under the "s" key in image-mode:
s 0 image-transform-reset
s b image-transform-fit-both
s f image-mode-fit-frame
s h image-transform-fit-to-height
s m image-transform-set-smoothing
s o image-transform-original
s r image-transform-set-rotation
s s image-transform-set-scale
s w image-transform-fit-to-width
Perhaps this would be less confusing if these commands were named
`image-display-*' instead of `image-transform-*'?
s 0 image-display-reset-size
s b image-display-fit-both
s f image-mode-fit-frame
s h image-display-fit-to-height
s m image-display-set-smoothing
s o image-display-original-size
s r image-display-set-rotation
s s image-display-set-scale
s w image-display-fit-to-width
Doesn't that make more sense?
Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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