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Subject: Re: bug#51930: 27.2; Buffer-local functions? Buffers specified
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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > This is a very
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> This is a very dramatic description of a problem ("can't make heads or
> tails", "I have no idea what is meant", etc.), so I'm not sure whether
> a simple cross-reference to the documentation of add-hook, which
> explains what is meant by "buffer-local" in this case, will solve the
> problem. If it will, doing that is very easy. In fact, I just did.
I think "Functions specified buffer-locally" is an unusual way to say
"the buffer-local value of window-buffer-change-functions" -- if indeed
that's what it's trying to say. I think rewriting this in a less
passive voice would be a good idea:
---
Functions specified buffer-locally are called for any window showing
the corresponding buffer if that window has been created or assigned
that buffer since the last time window change functions were run. In
this case the window is passed as argument.
Functions specified by the default value are called for a frame if at
least one window on that frame has been added, deleted or assigned
another buffer since the last time window change functions were run.
In this case the frame is passed as argument.
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> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 21:51:29 +0000
>
> I'm trying to read (elisp) `Window Hooks', and I can't make heads or
> tails of it. Throughout this node there's mention of buffer-local
> functions: "functions specified buffer-locally".
>
> I have no idea what is meant by this. I search the Elisp manual for
> buffer-local, and I find zillions of matches that are about
> buffer-local variables, of course. And I find a couple of mentions
> of buffer-local faces. No mention, that I can find, of buffer-local
> functions or "functions specified buffer-locally". How to specify a
> function buffer-locally?
>
> A wild guess is that what you're trying to say has something to do
> with using the LOCAL argument to `add-hook' or `remove-hook`. But
> if so, it's not clear what.
>
> Please clean up this text so it's comprehensible by an average reader.
> If buffer-local functions are indeed a thing now, please document what
> they are, somewhere.
This is a very dramatic description of a problem ("can't make heads or
tails", "I have no idea what is meant", etc.), so I'm not sure whether
a simple cross-reference to the documentation of add-hook, which
explains what is meant by "buffer-local" in this case, will solve the
problem. If it will, doing that is very easy. In fact, I just did.
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Buffers specified buffer-locally? Thread-Topic: 27.2; Buffer-local functions? Buffers specified buffer-locally? 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envelope-from=drew.adams@HIDDEN; helo=mx0a-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I'm trying to read (elisp) `Window Hooks', and I can't make heads or tails of it. Throughout this node there's mention of buffer-local functions: "functions specified buffer-locally". I have no idea what is meant by this. I search the Elisp manual for buffer-local, and I find zillions of matches that are about buffer-local variables, of course. And I find a couple of mentions of buffer-local faces. No mention, that I can find, of buffer-local functions or "functions specified buffer-locally". How to specify a function buffer-locally? A wild guess is that what you're trying to say has something to do with using the LOCAL argument to `add-hook' or `remove-hook`. But if so, it's not clear what. Please clean up this text so it's comprehensible by an average reader. If buffer-local functions are indeed a thing now, please document what they are, somewhere. 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