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Max,
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Max Nikulin <manikulin@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Should some function a macro be provided to facilitate declaring language=
s as data format (config files, JSON, YAML, etc.) rather than executable so=
urce code?
I think we already have this in the form of export blocks, viz.
#+name: yaml_header_1
#+begin_export yaml
output:
html_document:
toc: true
toc_depth: 2
#+end_export
will be ignored by babel and by exporters that do not define a transcoder f=
or `yaml' blocks.
The data can be used in transcoders for derived backends or in src blocks l=
ike this one:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var yaml_dat_1=3Dyaml_header_1
yaml_dat_1
#+end_src
And =3DC-c '=3D will invoke an edit buffer in yaml mode (if available).
And it seems that fontifying natively works just as with src blocks.
Best,
Chuck
emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore
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On 30/12/2021 15:00, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote:
>
> #+property: header-args:bibtex+ :eval yes
Why do you set ":eval yes" explicitly for bibtex if you believe that it
should not be executed?
I suppose, the following may be considered as a complete example
suitable to compare behavior of `org-babel-execute-buffer' and export:
---- >8 ----
#+property: header-args:bibtex+ :exports none
Test file with =bibtex= (to tangle)
and =elisp= (to execute) code blocks.
#+begin_src bibtex :tangle yes
@misc{ex1,
title = "Example"
}
#+end_src
#+begin_src elisp
(message "From elisp")
#+end_src
---- 8< ----
To solve the problem avoiding per-file configuration you can try
(setq org-babel-default-header-args:bibtex '((:eval . "no")))
Unsure if it should be default. Since LaTeX export is important part of
Org it is reasonable to expect that Org have some notion of BibTeX
allowing to avoid execution of such source blocks.
Currently there is no BibTeX babel backend, but some user might create
one that e.g. formats entries as some alternative to org-cite. Can
default header arguments cause a problem in such case?
Should some function a macro be provided to facilitate declaring
languages as data format (config files, JSON, YAML, etc.) rather than
executable source code?
emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore
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Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D via "General discussions about Org-mode."
<emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN> writes:
> Below, I include a typical use case: Org notes about an article with a
> corresponding BibTeX entry.
Please, ignore the example I gave, as it does not show anything. I
apologize it. Below, I provide a good example, one that made me stumble
upon the problem.
I have a paper that includes BibTeX blocks for references and SQLite
blocks to compute results. I expect Org to execute all SQLite without
aborting to inform me that it could not execute BibTeX. Further, I
expect Org to it without me instructing it, for executing BibTeX does
not make sense.
#+title: =E2=80=A6
#+author: Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D
#+email: salutis@HIDDEN
#+property: header-args+ :comments link
#+cite_export: csl apa.csl
#+property: header-args:bibtex+ :exports none
#+property: header-args:bibtex+ :eval yes
#+options: toc:nil
#+latex_header: \usepackage{setspace}
#+latex_header: \doublespacing
* Abstract [=E2=80=A6]
* Introduction
[=E2=80=A6] [cite/text:@beall-2019] explains [=E2=80=A6]
#+begin_src bibtex :tangle ~/bib/beall-2019.bib
[=E2=80=A6]
#+end_src
[=E2=80=A6 10 more BibTeX blocks used for the literature review]
* Methods [=E2=80=A6]
* Results
[=E2=80=A6]
#+begin_src sqlite :db ~/tmp/test.db :exports none
[=E2=80=A6]
#+end_src
[=E2=80=A6 10 more SQLite blocks used to compute the results =E2=80=A6]
[=E2=80=A6]
Rudy
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"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'if it was so, it might be; and
if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'"
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"Berry, Charles" <ccberry@HIDDEN> writes:
> Rudy,
>
> Thanks for the comment, but ...
>
>> On Dec 25, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> I think we look at the problem from two different perspectives. You
>> look at the problem from the "how" perspective, whereas I look at it
>> from the "why" perspective. Sure, we can work around everything in
>> Org. Now, does that mean that Org should try to execute BibTeX
>> blocks when executing a buffer? I do not think so.
>
> Using standard features (properties, header-args) in a standard way
> does not strike me as a `work around'.
I apologize for the lack of clarity. I used the term "workaround" from
the perspective of a user, who probably does not expect Org to try
"execute BibTeX" ever.
> You have not made a clear case that src blocks are even needed to
> support your use case. It may well be that export blocks (which never
> execute) would work just as well. But with no ECM, one can only
> guess.
True that, I did not include an example! Below, I include a typical use
case: Org notes about an article with a corresponding BibTeX entry.
(Note: I do not know what ECM stands for.)
[=E2=80=A6]
#+property: header-args+ :comments link
#+cite_export: csl apa.csl
* Notes
[=E2=80=A6]
* References
#+print_bibliography:
* Sources
#+begin_src bibtex :tangle knuth+2021.bib
@Article{knuth+2021,
author =3D {Knuth, Donald E. and Shustek, Len},
title =3D {Let's Not Dumb down the History of Computer Science},
journal =3D {Communications of the {ACM}},
year =3D 2021,
volume =3D 64,
number =3D 2,
pages =3D {33=E2=80=9335},
month =3D {jan},
issue_date =3D {February 2021},
publisher =3D {Association for Computing Machinery, {ACM}},
issn =3D {0001-0782},
doi =3D {10.1145/3442377},
abstract =3D {Donald Knuth on the best way to recognize the history
of computer science.},
numpages =3D 3
}
#+end_src
> I'm still inclined to call this a feature request, not a bug. And
> decisions about adding complexity to an already complicated code base
> should take that point of view, IMO.
Sure. As a user, I can see it as both a bug, where Org tries to execute
BibTeX, but also as a feature, where Org needs to become smarter and
differentiate BibTeX from, say, Scheme or C.
Rudy
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"Logic is a science of the necessary laws of thought, without which no
employment of the understanding and the reason takes place." -- Immanuel
Kant, 1785
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I am puzzled that behavior for property drawer= is different. >=20 It isn't different when you have `:header-args:elisp: :eval no' in the draw= er. I get the message `Evaluation of this elisp code block is disabled.' either= way. Caveat: I am running release_9.5.1-233-ged5335. But a couple of things: 1) Be sure to refresh when introducing `#+property' lines. If you paste in = a property line and then org-babel-execute-src-block, the property will not= be acknowledged. AFAICS, property drawers do not suffer from this.=20 2) Property drawers only affect the heading under which they are placed unl= ess placed at the top of the file. And either way, it is an error to insert= a blank line above a property drawer. org-lint will complain although the = message may be cryptic. 3) You probably know this, but exports use `org-babel-exp-process-buffer' w= hich may perform differently than `org-babel-execute-buffer'.=20 > ---- >8 ---- > #+property: header-args :eval yes :exports both > #+property: header-args:elisp :eval no >=20 > #+begin_src elisp > (message "From elisp") > #+end_src > ---- 8< ---- HTH, Chuck=
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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm993589lji.68.2021.12.29.04.54.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Dec 2021 04:54:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore irrelevant src blocks To: "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@HIDDEN> References: <m2h7b8u9a7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilvnx29d.fsf@HIDDEN> <A4FB4F42-64A8-4D6D-A621-D621E1AA1F04@HIDDEN> <87y24ib5v1.fsf@localhost> <m2bl19y3g8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mtkssmth.fsf@localhost> <m2r1a3j81n.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735mitzij.fsf@localhost> <840BA83C-A261-49FD-8FE5-EFEEA2DDEBCB@HIDDEN> From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <de31bcc9-3ee6-cf3c-ed34-7da65495f486@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:53:59 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <840BA83C-A261-49FD-8FE5-EFEEA2DDEBCB@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52545 Cc: "52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On 25/12/2021 02:52, Berry, Charles wrote: > > For that case, setting buffer or heading properties, such as: > > #+begin_src org > :PROPERTIES: > :header-args: :eval yes :exports results > :header-args:bibtex: :eval no > :END: > #+end_src > > resolves the issue. Chuck, is it expected that the following form to specify properties suppresses of evaluation during export but allows execution during processing of `org-babel-execute-buffer'? I am puzzled that behavior for property drawer is different. ---- >8 ---- #+property: header-args :eval yes :exports both #+property: header-args:elisp :eval no #+begin_src elisp (message "From elisp") #+end_src ---- 8< ----
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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 18sm1877579ljj.119.2021.12.28.03.45.40 for <52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Dec 2021 03:45:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore irrelevant src blocks To: 52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <m2h7b8u9a7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilvnx29d.fsf@HIDDEN> <A4FB4F42-64A8-4D6D-A621-D621E1AA1F04@HIDDEN> <87y24ib5v1.fsf@localhost> <m2bl19y3g8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mtkssmth.fsf@localhost> <m2r1a3j81n.fsf@HIDDEN> <sq9ocf$147c$1@HIDDEN> <m2czljcfh3.fsf@HIDDEN> <e9838e9c-cd44-a1b6-a358-a1be8e75e432@HIDDEN> <m2lf05686e.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <b6d6d004-6c1a-7f5e-a114-4f068afb8e48@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 18:45:39 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <m2lf05686e.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52545 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) On 28/12/2021 04:37, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> Let's consider the following example: >> >> ---- >8 ---- >> Test >> >> #+begin_src elisp >> (message "Test") >> #+end_src >> ---- 8< ----- >> >> emacs -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ --eval "(custom-set-variables >> '(org-babel-load-languages '((emacs-lisp . nil))))" babel-exec.org >> >> Do you agree that "No org-babel-execute function for elisp!" is a >> reasonable reaction to `org-babel-execute-buffer`? > > The user did ask Org to load "emacs-lisp" but to never execute it. > Thus, I would expect Org to do just that. What do you think? No, it means instruction to unload support of emacs-lisp even it was loaded before. See info "(org) Languages" https://orgmode.org/manual/Languages.html and `org-babel-do-load-languages' function. The latter may be considered too technical for ordinary user, but examples of its usage are excessively proliferated, e.g. it is mentioned for every supported language on Worg https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-octave.html The function is called when the value of `org-babel-load-languages' is changed through easy customization interface, so (emacs-lisp . nil) is a command rather than a declaration. The use case is to temporary enable support of some language and later to disable it again without terminating of emacs session. Just to avoid accidental execution of some snippet. I can not say that your expectation of the effect of nil is a nonsense, but changing its interpretation may cause silent failures and as a result upset users. Consider that a file that includes source code blocks for different languages is moved to another machine (or configuration changed since previous execution on the same machine). It is better to get explicit error than to copy result in a hurry and to discover that it is incomplete some time later. Per-file and per-block configuration is safer against such pitfalls. I do not insist that current behavior is the best possible. There are still some reasons behind such choice.
emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o15sm910011lfk.44.2021.12.27.03.18.14 for <52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Dec 2021 03:18:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore irrelevant src blocks To: 52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <m2h7b8u9a7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilvnx29d.fsf@HIDDEN> <A4FB4F42-64A8-4D6D-A621-D621E1AA1F04@HIDDEN> <87y24ib5v1.fsf@localhost> <m2bl19y3g8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mtkssmth.fsf@localhost> <m2r1a3j81n.fsf@HIDDEN> <sq9ocf$147c$1@HIDDEN> <m2czljcfh3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <e9838e9c-cd44-a1b6-a358-a1be8e75e432@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:18:08 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <m2czljcfh3.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52545 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) I am sorry that I sent previous message to emacs-orgmode list only, not to debbugs. On 27/12/2021 02:51, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> Rudolf, do have support BibTeX as babel language loaded to Org (by >> customization of `org-babel-load-languages' or by explicit `require')? > > I have it listed in org-babel-do-load-languages as (bibtex . nil). Let's consider the following example: ---- >8 ---- Test #+begin_src elisp (message "Test") #+end_src ---- 8< ----- emacs -Q -L ~/src/org-mode/lisp/ --eval "(custom-set-variables '(org-babel-load-languages '((emacs-lisp . nil))))" babel-exec.org Do you agree that "No org-babel-execute function for elisp!" is a reasonable reaction to `org-babel-execute-buffer`?
emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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Full text available.Received: (at 52545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2021 21:40:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 25 16:40:45 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1n1EmT-0006xG-0R for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 16:40:45 -0500 Received: from pv50p00im-ztbu10021601.me.com ([17.58.6.57]:44582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <salutis@HIDDEN>) id 1n1EmQ-0006x3-D5 for 52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 16:40:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=1a1hai; t=1640468436; bh=D9Qb6tGTnO5qL0XwTKfhcz5WaDUDJziIoff15233o0A=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BDWKCn8UMY+0c4T9n8UiQc38kbLyHoRdyacrUzcydMAILzteUE2o3oFVPe8lzlsiF yqxBXbRgJ5CTh5pkCk2o4f3NnxEUS+OzkEDW9mst22xBkRTSOuhfwdyAD/w9ORISry iHNv6evamk22H3yLrfuiz5sCMMEguXj2Nz7WzHCv1rf+oTXw6rRN+TjXQXl03MFHps GCnVRcDqCNL10hWJmYzDZRXZZkyHScM+BSJ4t9DicnCEpp42HVHjD3n2joXafjkm/r JTAaesWENE/r9ZuVAH97kMwnp6UwAfONCPsqH/tRZx9kWRkrhcNjc2Uym/7/DHlA2y 1UGzGhU8ikPgw== Received: from Workstation.local (78-141-116-131.dynamic.orange.sk [78.141.116.131]) by pv50p00im-ztbu10021601.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05AC0802F1; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 21:40:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= <salutis@HIDDEN> To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore irrelevant src blocks In-Reply-To: <8735mitzij.fsf@localhost> References: <m2h7b8u9a7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilvnx29d.fsf@HIDDEN> <A4FB4F42-64A8-4D6D-A621-D621E1AA1F04@HIDDEN> <87y24ib5v1.fsf@localhost> <m2bl19y3g8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mtkssmth.fsf@localhost> <m2r1a3j81n.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735mitzij.fsf@localhost> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 22:40:32 +0100 Message-ID: <m27dbs9xdb.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.790 definitions=2021-12-25_03:2021-12-24, 2021-12-25 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=688 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2009150000 definitions=main-2112250111 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52545 Cc: "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@HIDDEN>, "52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <52545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Kyle Meyer <kyle@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> writes: > And we do not have to force the users adding trivial things like > bibtex. Bibtex may be one of the defaults. I see. In effect, Org would not try to "execute BibTeX" when executing a buffer. That makes sense! Rudy --=20 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by." -- Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> [he/him] Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia
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emacs-orgmode@HIDDEN:bug#52545; Package org-mode.
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So doing an export should `just work'. HTH, Chuck=
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From: "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@HIDDEN>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore
irrelevant src blocks
Thread-Topic: bug#52545: 29.0.50; Make org-babel-execute-buffer ignore
irrelevant src blocks
Thread-Index: AQHX83voZE4ImeHP20miel3NcHamzaw4AgYAgACp2wA=
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> On Dec 18, 2021, at 1:49 AM, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> wrote:
>=20
> "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
>> If I have a typo in the name of a language, the error message you quote =
tells me what my mistake was.=20
>>=20
>> I'd say that is a feature, not a bug.
>=20
> Agree. However, some languages simply do not define babel execute
> function. The error is same regardless whether a language backend is not
> available/not loaded or the backend is loaded, but does not provide
> babel execute function.
>=20
> Maybe we can provide a custom list of languages where we do not throw
> the error? If a language is in the list and there is no babel execute
> function, we can simply ignore the source block. If a language is in the
> list, but there is babel execute function, we throw another error.
>=20
> Though I am not a big fan of introducing yet another customisation.
> Maybe someone has better ideas?
>=20
I believe there is a feeling that org-babel is already so complicated that =
adding features should be avoided.=20
There are workable approaches under the current setup.=20
---
For one, you can define lang specific header-args, so just define :eval no =
for the lang's that you want to use, but that do not have org-babel-execute=
:<lang> defined:=20
#+property: header-args:nada :eval no
#+property: header-args :exports both :eval yes
The code here will be rendered, but the block will not execute:
#+begin_src nada
"haha"
#+end_src
---
Another is to use a custom :eval arg like this:
#+property: header-args :eval (my-eval-p) :exports both
#+begin_src not_defined
"haha"
#+end_src
Where `my-eval-p' is defined as:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun my-eval-p ()
(let ((lang (car (org-babel-get-src-block-info 'light))))
(if (fboundp (intern (concat "org-babel-execute:" lang)))
"yes"
"no")))
#+end_src
Obviously, you can elaborate `my-eval-p' to satisfy individual needs.
Best,
Chuck
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When I try to do so, org-mode complains: org-babel-execute-src-block: No org-babel-execute function for bibtex! I know I can work around the problem (as one does in org-mode) with: #+property: header-args:bibtex+ :eval no Then, why not skip the irrelevant blocks, the ones with no execute function= s, by default? 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lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 2797544 115059) (symbols 48 57535 17) (strings 32 307749 28260) (string-bytes 1 9616525) (vectors 16 123840) (vector-slots 8 4329893 151750) (floats 8 797 616) (intervals 56 15721 1087) (buffers 992 148)) --=20 "Programming reliably --- must be an activity of an undeniably mathematical= nature [=E2=80=A6] You see, mathematics is about thinking, and doing mathe= matics is always trying to think as well as possible." -- Edsger W. Dijkstr= a (1981) Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> [he/him] Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia
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