Received: (at 52547) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2021 21:31:01 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 17 16:31:00 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40734 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1myKoe-0007MG-MN for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:31:00 -0500 Received: from mr85p00im-ztdg06021201.me.com ([17.58.23.189]:49402) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <salutis@HIDDEN>) id 1myKoc-0007M1-Ii for 52547 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:30:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=1a1hai; t=1639776652; bh=ME7OgkTpG2gu8KoXpfjd2i2hxhubtuD9f5WVhzaf4Fc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NVeYTTZfGoln5egTcTC1x5fpPkLs3kx9RaJ6Or1+xR8hojwJExKORCDqajZjCKcBm V3HvEZrugGH41r/5xWDLOITslcEAwiQad35hjmH3q4oYBsfUgPj96s/zDX839Px6cC YM6k8r1+BLlwHP9Ua37aISAm6Qw8JRYioD1yvlTsPcRSEUXzbQZqNkMcmPFpLna1TH lmRRLJEALSnUlxQBmnw73vQA5ll4nC406varlxmAXpjBt1OKEUfcq5Z2G1hjDZz0qU Rk3EWTPMZ59gPk/lzP/7EvxUaCR6qpK1jRTAQjh348+Ub4cl8B0bnOx7O2Q/xxjTSk cHh6nDcp8mTVA== Received: from Workstation.local (78-141-116-131.dynamic.orange.sk [78.141.116.131]) by mr85p00im-ztdg06021201.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1FDED320B2A; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:30:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= <salutis@HIDDEN> To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#52547: 29.0.50; Confusing behavior of org-timer-set In-Reply-To: <87lf0jx2ii.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <m2bl1gu7zi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lf0jx2ii.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 22:30:48 +0100 Message-ID: <m28rwigbqv.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: =?UTF-8?Q?vendor=3Dfsecure_engine=3D1.1.170-22c6f66c430a71ce266a39bfe25bc?= =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.425,18.0.790,17.0.607.475.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2021-12-17=5F09:2021-12-16=5F01,2021-12-17=5F09,2020-04-07?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F01_signatures=3D0?= X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2112170120 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52547 Cc: 52547 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Kyle Meyer <kyle@HIDDEN> writes: > This must be org-timer-set-timer; there's no org-timer-set in Org's > tree. Correct. My apologies. > Yes, it seems better to at least signal a user-error if the input > doesn't match the expected format. Agreed. Or perhaps recognize h/m/s, like org-schedule does. > Anyway, I'm redirecting this to the Org list. Perhaps someone there > will be interested in improving this behavior or reviewing a patch that > does so. Thank you! (Org remains strangely "disconnected" from Emacs.) > org-timer-set-timer has been autoloaded since 4e2795413 (Add autoload > cookie to org-timer-set-timer, 2009-07-27). Correct. My apologies again. --=20 "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by." -- = Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> [he/him] Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia
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Full text available.Received: (at 52547) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2021 04:46:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 16 23:46:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1my587-00022K-RS for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:46:04 -0500 Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:60531) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <kyle@HIDDEN>) id 1my585-0001yf-B9 for 52547 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:46:02 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kyleam.com; s=key1; t=1639716359; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zZvznMkC4yKQYbLdKOetLNaB/cEdatAjsOkiSwVoZ88=; b=ts9TkpHvv3JtgV/eFQse3TZzAg+/Z39G3seIgoDx2W+gBExUNir498d5zS8m7u8/eE8frI xs+lMVr5dtynmX7qkVi5efO9WEfZy9PaEhNTQe69Ivjs9QmzaYIMh56w5KQiUReArosVP8 NV40T6oOtwyjnyt29QG/eaTLqTz3kHH7PzIOb7r2jrVRK75Wj3lvlgpqHCbpWXCJuiZ5zM nRwIRGgJUg8TTVwt0WDguKltdBAQ38zpIxTP818OjviJ2TF5fMIvZ+/WoJEGAsXzHFVl1x BFBofWAWLkoxoaAYm1hGUyGoKmorbQsL6zXq5mnxerNCbrbCAParCFDrdhTkLA== From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@HIDDEN> To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= <salutis@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#52547: 29.0.50; Confusing behavior of org-timer-set In-Reply-To: <m2bl1gu7zi.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <m2bl1gu7zi.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <87lf0jx2ii.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: kyleam.com X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 52547 Cc: 52547 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D: > Reproduction steps: > > 1. run 'emacs -Q' > 2. type M-; and then "(require 'org)" > 3. type M-x and then 'org-timer-set' This must be org-timer-set-timer; there's no org-timer-set in Org's tree. > 4. see 'How much time left? (minutes or h:mm:ss)' > 5. type '10m' > > Expected: The timer runs for 10 minutes. > Actual: The timer runs for 10 seconds. > > From the perspective of the user, this makes no sense. Yes, it seems better to at least signal a user-error if the input doesn't match the expected format. Anyway, I'm redirecting this to the Org list. Perhaps someone there will be interested in improving this behavior or reviewing a patch that does so. > P.S. I would also expect auto-load on "org-timer-set". org-timer-set-timer has been autoloaded since 4e2795413 (Add autoload cookie to org-timer-set-timer, 2009-07-27).
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(minutes or h:mm:ss)' 5. type '10m' Expected: The timer runs for 10 minutes. Actual: The timer runs for 10 seconds. From the perspective of the user, this makes no sense. P.S. I would also expect auto-load on "org-timer-set". 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1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
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