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Reproduction steps:

1. run "emacs -Q"
2. type C-x C-f test.org RET
3. enter the following:

first

last

* bye

4. type M-x refill-mode RET
5. position the cursor after the word "last"
6. type RET

Expected: newline (same as RET after "first")

Actual: mangled text ("last * bye")

Rudy


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a (1981)

Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> [he/him]
Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25
84103 Bratislava
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Subject: bug#52778: 29.0.50; refill-mode issues in org-mode
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> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:15:00 +0100
> From:  Rudolf Adamkovič via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> 
> Reproduction steps:
> 
> 1. run "emacs -Q"
> 2. type C-x C-f test.org RET
> 3. enter the following:
> 
> first
> 
> last
> 
> * bye
> 
> 4. type M-x refill-mode RET
> 5. position the cursor after the word "last"
> 6. type RET
> 
> Expected: newline (same as RET after "first")
> 
> Actual: mangled text ("last * bye")

Doesn't Org mode have its own bug tracker?

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> 4. type M-x refill-mode RET
>> 5. position the cursor after the word "last"
>> 6. type RET
>> 
>> Expected: newline (same as RET after "first")
>> 
>> Actual: mangled text ("last * bye")
>
> Doesn't Org mode have its own bug tracker?

Yes, but this particular report appears to be relevant to Emacs.

We had the same issue reported in
https://orgmode.org/list/3715730.BJ41AJB0qc@yksi

It looks like refill-mode ignores `fill-paragraph-function'.

Best,
Ihor

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> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@HIDDEN>,
>   52778 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 23:04:21 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> 4. type M-x refill-mode RET
> >> 5. position the cursor after the word "last"
> >> 6. type RET
> >> 
> >> Expected: newline (same as RET after "first")
> >> 
> >> Actual: mangled text ("last * bye")
> >
> > Doesn't Org mode have its own bug tracker?
> 
> Yes, but this particular report appears to be relevant to Emacs.

What about the other issues that Rudolf reported lately? they all have
to do with Org, AFAICT.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> What about the other issues that Rudolf reported lately? they all have
> to do with Org, AFAICT.

You are right. I do not actively watch Emacs bug tracker and I had no
information about Rudolf's previous reports today.

Yet, we should probably prioritise discussion of refill-mode issue in
this thread.

I did some debugging for refill-mode in Org.
`refill-post-command-function' calls `refill-fill-paragraph-at', which
not only ignores `fill-paragraph-function', but even
`fill-forward-paragraph-function'. `forward-paragraph' is hard-coded,
I consider to be a bug.

P.S.

Rudolf,

Could you kindly use M-x org-submit-bug-report to prepare your
future bug reports related to Org mode?

Best regards,
Ihor

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> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
> Cc: salutis@HIDDEN,  52778 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
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> > What about the other issues that Rudolf reported lately? they all have
> > to do with Org, AFAICT.
> 
> You are right. I do not actively watch Emacs bug tracker and I had no
> information about Rudolf's previous reports today.

Did you look at them now?  I meant bugs 52771 and 52772.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> You are right. I do not actively watch Emacs bug tracker and I had no
>> information about Rudolf's previous reports today.
>
> Did you look at them now?  I meant bugs 52771 and 52772.

Yes. One is fixed already. The other one should probably be forwarded to
Org ML. However, I am not sure what is the right way to redirect
messages from Emacs bug tracker to Org ML. Usually, Kyle takes care
about this part.

Best,
Ihor

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> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
> Cc: salutis@HIDDEN,  52778 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 22:39:15 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> You are right. I do not actively watch Emacs bug tracker and I had no
> >> information about Rudolf's previous reports today.
> >
> > Did you look at them now?  I meant bugs 52771 and 52772.
> 
> Yes. One is fixed already. The other one should probably be forwarded to
> Org ML. However, I am not sure what is the right way to redirect
> messages from Emacs bug tracker to Org ML. Usually, Kyle takes care
> about this part.

Thanks, I'm sure Kyle will DTRT.

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> writes:

> Could you kindly use M-x org-submit-bug-report to prepare your
> future bug reports related to Org mode?

Oh, I apologize.  I did not know that Org has its own command to report
bugs.  In the future, I will use M-x org-submit-bug-report.

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Ihor Radchenko writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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>>> information about Rudolf's previous reports today.
>>
>> Did you look at them now?  I meant bugs 52771 and 52772.
>
> Yes. One is fixed already.

Thanks for fixing 52772.  I've marked it as done.  (One way to do that
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<52772-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org>.)

> The other one should probably be forwarded to
> Org ML. However, I am not sure what is the right way to redirect
> messages from Emacs bug tracker to Org ML. Usually, Kyle takes care
> about this part.

Before replying to a message, you can reassign it the "org-mode" package
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However, looking at <https://debbugs.gnu.org/52771>, it's already been
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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> writes:

> I did some debugging for refill-mode in Org.
> `refill-post-command-function' calls `refill-fill-paragraph-at', which
> not only ignores `fill-paragraph-function', but even
> `fill-forward-paragraph-function'. `forward-paragraph' is hard-coded,
> I consider to be a bug.

Let me bump this bug report.
AFAIU, it belongs to emacs.

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> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>,  salutis@HIDDEN,  52778 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 05:04:56 +0000
> 
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > I did some debugging for refill-mode in Org.
> > `refill-post-command-function' calls `refill-fill-paragraph-at', which
> > not only ignores `fill-paragraph-function', but even
> > `fill-forward-paragraph-function'. `forward-paragraph' is hard-coded,
> > I consider to be a bug.
> 
> Let me bump this bug report.
> AFAIU, it belongs to emacs.

Patches to modify refill.el to behave according to fill.el's protocols
will be welcome, of course.

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merge 68418 52778
thanks

> From: Lars Rustand <rustand.lars@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:18:51 +0100
> 
> 
> Enabling refill-mode in an org-mode buffer results in unwanted behaviour
> that interferes with headlines, list items, and possibly other types of
> line breaks.
> 
> I won't go too deeply into describing it here as it has been described
> well in the following bug report on the org-mode mailing list. In that
> thread it was suggested that the bug is actually not in org-mode, but
> instead in refill-mode.
> 
> See the original bug report on the org-mode list here:
> 
> https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/3715730.BJ41AJB0qc@yksi/
> 
> 
> I also found a previous thread on this list where it has been discussed:
> 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2021-12/msg01854.html
> 
> It seems that the bug was located and the cause was identified, but
> nothing more came out of it.

If a bug isn't picked up by someone who wants or is capable of working
on it, and has time for that, that bug will not be fixed, indeed.
That's one of the downsides of a community-driven project that is
based on volunteers.

> The thread derailed quickly and it seems the problem was ignored because
> of personal problems against the author. The fact that some of his
> previous bug reports were done to the wrong list does not mean that this
> bug should be ignored.
> 
> I hope the issue can be taken seriously this time, because it renders
> refill-mode unusable in org-mode buffers.

This is at least inaccurate, and quite a bit unfair, I'd say: the
thread didn't "derail".  Once the nature of the original report was
established and seemed to point to a problem in refill.el, the
discussion indeed went to a tangent, but no one said that the original
report was invalid or incorrect, or that we don't want to take it
seriously, let alone because the OP had some problems.  It's just a
bug that no one kept working on it.  Which is unfortunate, but it does
happen, since we don't have a way of assigning bugs to developers and
making sure they do fix them.

Anyway, with these tangents aside, coming back to the original report
and its initial analysis by Ihor in bug#52778, viz.:

> > I did some debugging for refill-mode in Org.
> > `refill-post-command-function' calls `refill-fill-paragraph-at', which
> > not only ignores `fill-paragraph-function', but even
> > `fill-forward-paragraph-function'. `forward-paragraph' is hard-coded,
> > I consider to be a bug.
> 
> Let me bump this bug report.
> AFAIU, it belongs to emacs.

I now have second thoughts about this.  fill-paragraph-function is
used by fill-paragraph, whereas refill.el calls
fill-region-as-paragraph.  fill-region-as-paragraph cannot possibly
call fill-paragraph-function, because the latter is not supposed to be
able to fill more than a single paragraph.  The doc string of
fill-paragraph-function actually says so:

  (defvar fill-paragraph-function nil
    "Mode-specific function to fill a paragraph, or nil if there is none.
  If the function returns nil, then `fill-paragraph' does its normal work.
  A value of t means explicitly \"do nothing special\".
  Note: This only affects `fill-paragraph' and not `fill-region'
  nor `auto-fill-mode', so it is often better to use some other hook,
  such as `fill-forward-paragraph-function'.")

Am I missing something?

If my analysis is correct, then to move forward with this bug, we
could either:

  . add a fill-region-function, make fill-region-as-paragraph call it,
    and then make Org set this function to something appropriate
  . modify refill.el to use fill-forward-paragraph-function instead of
    a literal forward-paragraph

I tried the latter (patch below), but I don't know if that gives
good-enough results, as I don't use Org intensively enough, and
certainly don't use refill-mode.  Can you try the patch below and
report back?

diff --git a/lisp/textmodes/refill.el b/lisp/textmodes/refill.el
index 937a8ed..22f67bc 100644
--- a/lisp/textmodes/refill.el
+++ b/lisp/textmodes/refill.el
@@ -106,10 +106,10 @@ refill-fill-paragraph-at
     ;; FIXME: forward-paragraph seems to disregard `use-hard-newlines',
     ;; leading to excessive refilling and wrong choice of fill-prefix.
     ;; might be a bug in my paragraphs.el.
-    (forward-paragraph)
+    (fill-forward-paragraph 1)
     (skip-syntax-backward "-")
     (let ((end (point))
-	  (beg (progn (backward-paragraph) (point)))
+	  (beg (progn (fill-forward-paragraph -1) (point)))
 	  (obeg (overlay-start refill-ignorable-overlay))
 	  (oend (overlay-end refill-ignorable-overlay)))
       (unless (> beg pos)      ;Don't fill if point is outside the paragraph.

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