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#52934
format-time-string year error
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Reported by: <david <at> ngdr.net>
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:13:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
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;; I ran this in the *scratch* buffer at lunch time in Denver.
;; The year is not right.
(defun doit ()
(format "%s\n%s\n%s"
(current-time)
(format-time-string "%d %b")
(format-time-string "%R %G")))
(doit)
"(25040 45621 647344 602000)
01 Jan
12:57 2021"
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Message #8 received at 52934 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Confirmed, for this build at least:
In GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
of 2021-03-26 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: deef5efafb70f4b171265b896505b92b6eef24e6
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19042
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19042.1348)
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Message #11 received at 52934 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:11:56 -0700
> From: <david <at> ngdr.net>
>
> ;; I ran this in the *scratch* buffer at lunch time in Denver.
> ;; The year is not right.
> (defun doit ()
> (format "%s\n%s\n%s"
> (current-time)
> (format-time-string "%d %b")
> (format-time-string "%R %G")))
> (doit)
> "(25040 45621 647344 602000)
> 01 Jan
> 12:57 2021"
The doc string of format-time-string says:
%G is the year corresponding to the ISO week
Isn't it true that the ISO week is still in 2021 today?
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Message #14 received at 52934 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
On Jan 01 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:11:56 -0700
>> From: <david <at> ngdr.net>
>>
>> ;; I ran this in the *scratch* buffer at lunch time in Denver.
>> ;; The year is not right.
>> (defun doit ()
>> (format "%s\n%s\n%s"
>> (current-time)
>> (format-time-string "%d %b")
>> (format-time-string "%R %G")))
>> (doit)
>> "(25040 45621 647344 602000)
>> 01 Jan
>> 12:57 2021"
>
> The doc string of format-time-string says:
>
> %G is the year corresponding to the ISO week
>
> Isn't it true that the ISO week is still in 2021 today?
Week 52 of 2021 started on 2021-12-27, and ends on 2022-01-02.
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Message #17 received at 52934 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
Now I have read about ISO 8601 in Wikipedia and, of course, your replies
are correct; now I know that we are in week 52 of 2021.
However, someone writing Emacs code to produce a timestamp for, e.g.,
.html code, does not see the need to study an ISO specification to avoid a
tripwire that is not even obvious - the problem only occurs, if it occurs,
in a few days of the year. Otherwise there is no reason to suspect that
personal code is faulty: it will perform correctly, including under test,
for about 360 days of the year.
I should like to suggest a note in the Emacs Info documentation that warns
the reader that ISO weeks do not map nicely into the calendar that the
reader lives by. That would be helpful. I am not suggesting that the
Emacs documentation should describe ISO 8601, only that it warns of the
potential problems, and, ideally, gives a reference to a description of the
standard.
dajo
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Message #22 received at 52934-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:01:21 -0700
> From: <david <at> ngdr.net>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, <52934 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
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> Now I have read about ISO 8601 in Wikipedia and, of course, your replies
> are correct; now I know that we are in week 52 of 2021.
>
> However, someone writing Emacs code to produce a timestamp for, e.g.,
> .html code, does not see the need to study an ISO specification to avoid a
> tripwire that is not even obvious - the problem only occurs, if it occurs,
> in a few days of the year. Otherwise there is no reason to suspect that
> personal code is faulty: it will perform correctly, including under test,
> for about 360 days of the year.
>
> I should like to suggest a note in the Emacs Info documentation that warns
> the reader that ISO weeks do not map nicely into the calendar that the
> reader lives by. That would be helpful. I am not suggesting that the
> Emacs documentation should describe ISO 8601, only that it warns of the
> potential problems, and, ideally, gives a reference to a description of the
> standard.
I enhanced the documentation, thanks. Pointing to the ISO standard
would not be useful, since it is not freely available, so I said
something about the rules instead.
I'm therefore closing this bug.
bug archived.
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