Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 53210) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 17:41:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 12 12:41:46 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58963 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1n7hd4-0002Uh-4Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:41:46 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:60894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1n7hd1-0002UP-Nc for 53210 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:41:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CEA22E; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zjC8M4D0_V8u; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net [91.160.117.201]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A89D11DC; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:36 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#53210: installer: referring to N-1 guix is problematic. References: <87czkw6hzk.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czkw6hzk.fsf@HIDDEN> (Mathieu Othacehe's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:23:11 +0100") Message-ID: <87lezkrgvj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: hera.aquilenet.fr; none X-Rspamd-Server: hera X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B3CEA22E X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53210 Cc: 53210 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi! Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@HIDDEN> skribis: > Any idea on how to improve this inception problem? We can arrange for =E2=80=98installation-os=E2=80=99 to use Guix from the c= urrent commit, as built by (guix self), instead of using the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80= =99 package. (For the record, (gnu ci) already does that in =E2=80=98system-test-jobs=E2= =80=99 to make installation tests faster.) I=E2=80=99ll take a look hopefully in the coming days and send a patch here. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#53210; Package guix.
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