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When emacs is started in server mode, the Frames submenu of the Buffers
menu includes an entry F1, for the initial pseudo-frame. Selecting this
entry does nothing, but its presence is confusing.

  emacs -Q --daemon
  emacsclient -c
  <click on "Buffers", then "Frames" in the menu-bar>

In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24,
cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2022-02-01 built on penguin
Repository revision: 02054d9cd1f5c6a5ca3555207235522532477e10
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Configured using:
 'configure --with-native-compilation --with-gnutls --without-xwidgets
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Configured features:
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chad brown <chadpbrown@HIDDEN> writes:

> When emacs is started in server mode, the Frames submenu of the Buffers
> menu includes an entry F1, for the initial pseudo-frame. Selecting this
> entry does nothing, but its presence is confusing. 

Should be fixed now on master, please test.

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> Cc: 53740 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 09:30:20 +0800
> From:  Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> chad brown <chadpbrown@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > When emacs is started in server mode, the Frames submenu of the Buffers
> > menu includes an entry F1, for the initial pseudo-frame. Selecting this
> > entry does nothing, but its presence is confusing. 
> 
> Should be fixed now on master, please test.

It doesn't seem to be fixed for me, neither on MS-Windows with a GUI
frame created by emacsclient, nor on GNU/Linux with TTY frames.  In
both cases, after emacsclient creates a client frame, the
Buffers->Frames menu shows the F1 frame that cannot be switched to.

What do you see on your system that caused you think the bug is fixed?
What recipe did you try?

Your change uses frame-initial-frame, but that is usually nil, so I'm
not sure this is the correct implementation.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> What do you see on your system that caused you think the bug is fixed?
> What recipe did you try?

I started a client by running Emacs as a daemon, then ran:

  emacsclient -c

And didn't see any frame submenu under the Buffers menu inside the newly
created frame.

> Your change uses frame-initial-frame, but that is usually nil, so I'm
> not sure this is the correct implementation.

Hmm, I'm not sure what the problem might be then.

Thanks.

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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> > What do you see on your system that caused you think the bug is fixed?
> > What recipe did you try?
> 
> I started a client by running Emacs as a daemon, then ran:

Did you start the daemon with -Q?

>   emacsclient -c
> 
> And didn't see any frame submenu under the Buffers menu inside the newly
> created frame.

Well, I do see the frame submenu, and the initial frame F1 there.

Can you try this in Emacs started by SSH login into a remote host?

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>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:30:40 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:

    Eli> Well, I do see the frame submenu, and the initial frame F1 there.

    Eli> Can you try this in Emacs started by SSH login into a remote host?

The F1 frame shows up in the frame submenu when doing emacsclient -c
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(and frame-initial-frame is nil).

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> Did you start the daemon with -Q?

No, but I see the problem now with -Q.
I'll try to fix this again later.  Thanks.

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> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>,  53740 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  chadpbrown@HIDDEN
> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 11:54:55 +0100
> 
> >>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:30:40 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
> 
>     Eli> Well, I do see the frame submenu, and the initial frame F1 there.
> 
>     Eli> Can you try this in Emacs started by SSH login into a remote host?
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> The F1 frame shows up in the frame submenu when doing emacsclient -c
> to an emacs running in daemon mode in an ssh session, with both tty
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> (and frame-initial-frame is nil).

Thanks, I hope I fixed this now on the master branch.

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>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:06:48 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:

    Eli> Thanks, I hope I fixed this now on the master branch.

Yes, or should I say: =F0=9F=91=8D (How do you do, fellow kids?)

Would it be useful to have the TTY frames named something other than
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> Would it be useful to have the TTY frames named something other than
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By default?  (Because we already have "M-x set-frame-name".)  What
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>>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:52:27 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:

    >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
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    >> Would it be useful to have the TTY frames named something other than
    >> Fn?

    Eli> By default?  (Because we already have "M-x set-frame-name".)  What
    Eli> would you call them?

"Fn <tty>" or similar?

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> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN,  53740 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  chadpbrown@HIDDEN
> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 14:30:54 +0100
> 
> >>>>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:52:27 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
> 
>     >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
>     >> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN,  53740 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  chadpbrown@HIDDEN
>     >> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:33:57 +0100
>     >> 
>     >> Would it be useful to have the TTY frames named something other than
>     >> Fn?
> 
>     Eli> By default?  (Because we already have "M-x set-frame-name".)  What
>     Eli> would you call them?
> 
> "Fn <tty>" or similar?

Is that really so different?  It will take more space on the mode
line, for starters.

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