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Subject: Re: bug#53764: 27.1; shouldn't ~/diary be in diary-mode?
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On Feb 09 2022, Francesco Potortì wrote:
> Francesco Potortì <pot@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>>Do we have a convenience function that says whether we have a match in
>>>>auto-mode-alist? `set-auto-mode--apply-alist' seems to be the closest I
>>>>can find, and... it's not that close. :-/ But I guess it could be
>>>>refactored out of there.
>>>
>>> This one seems to do the job:
>>> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist
>>> (cons diary-file 'diary-mode)
>>> (lambda (a b) (equal (car a) (car b))))
>>
>>The user may have used a regexp like "diary$", "diary\\'", etc, so that
>>doesn't work.
>
> Sorry, I don't get it. I am suggeting to add the name of the actual file (the one in diary-file) to the mode alist. Looking for possible matches is a (small) optimisation. Why do we need a completely reliable matching code?
If you put it at the end, it won't hide any preexisting match.
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That buffer is included in `calendar-buffer-list', so `calendar-exit' calls `quit-window' on that buffer. So you could have `quit-window-hook' kill the buffer, I guess? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Francesco Potort=C3=AC <pot@HIDDEN> writes:
>>Do we have a convenience function that says whether we have a match in
>>auto-mode-alist? `set-auto-mode--apply-alist' seems to be the closest I
>>can find, and... it's not that close. :-/ But I guess it could be
>>refactored out of there.
>
> This one seems to do the job:
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist
> (cons diary-file 'diary-mode)
> (lambda (a b) (equal (car a) (car b))))
The user may have used a regexp like "diary$", "diary\\'", etc, so that
doesn't work.
>>We could move diary-file out of calendar.el and put it in...
>>bindings.el or something, though?
>
> I would add it to the mode alist just after diary-file's defcustom
As I said, that wouldn't help that much, because then you only get it
added to auto-mode-alist after loading calendar.el (since there's where
it's defined today).
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We could also have `diary-make-entry' put a diary mode cookie into the diary file (if the file doesn't exist already). That'd make the buffer a big uglier when editing it from Calendar (with `i d' etc), though. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Loading the diary file with `C-x C-f' is > probably something most people don't do. But I would not assume that. People living "everything is a file" do it. I didn't know about the mode until I participated in this discussion, I thought the highlighting would be some magic the diary does when diary entries are displayed from the calendar, I didn't know it's just a simple major mode. And it's not necessary to use the calendar key interface to use the diary, e.g. for calendar highlighting stuff or annotations. It isn't convenient to add complicated diary expressions or #includes to the diary file from the calendar. It's legitimate to edit the file the normal way. Maybe we can leave a short remark about the existence of the mode in the manual? Michael.
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Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure anymore if this is a good idea anyway, because (doc of > `diary-file'): "Diary files can contain directives to include the > contents of other files; for details, see the documentation [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 53764 Cc: Francesco =?utf-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= <pot@HIDDEN>, 53764 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure anymore if this is a good idea anyway, because (doc of > `diary-file'): "Diary files can contain directives to include the > contents of other files; for details, see the documentation for the > variable `diary-list-entries-hook'". > > No magic is able to ensure that all of these files are always opened > with the right mode. Hm, right. > Dunno. When the diary-file is opened with `diary-show-all-entries', the > mode is already changed to diary-mode. We could automatically add a > file local variable when Emacs creates the (main) diary file for the > user. > > An alternative approach: we change the name of the diary-file to .diary > and associate the suffix ".diary" with diary-mode. When the user then > names his/her included diary files like "holidays.diary" and > "work.diary", the mode would be enabled for these files, too. Hm... is that worth it? People are bound to end up with both a ~/.emacs.d/diary and ~/.emacs.d/diary.diary file when they switch between newer and older Emacs versions. Renaming files like this is always painful. Perhaps we should just do nothing -- people normally access the diary file via Calendar, which does everything it's supposed to. Loading the diary file with `C-x C-f' is probably something most people don't do. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Adding `diary-file' to > `auto-mode-alist' would be fine, but we calculate that in calendar.el, > so people not using the calendar won't get the mode. > > We could move diary-file out of calendar.el and put it in... > bindings.el or something, though? I'm not sure anymore if this is a good idea anyway, because (doc of `diary-file'): "Diary files can contain directives to include the contents of other files; for details, see the documentation for the variable `diary-list-entries-hook'". No magic is able to ensure that all of these files are always opened with the right mode. Dunno. When the diary-file is opened with `diary-show-all-entries', the mode is already changed to diary-mode. We could automatically add a file local variable when Emacs creates the (main) diary file for the user. An alternative approach: we change the name of the diary-file to .diary and associate the suffix ".diary" with diary-mode. When the user then names his/her included diary files like "holidays.diary" and "work.diary", the mode would be enabled for these files, too. Michael.
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Subject: Re: bug#53764: 27.1; shouldn't ~/diary be in diary-mode?
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Francesco Potort=C3=AC <pot@HIDDEN> writes:
> If diary-file is already in the auto-mode-alist, we do nothing. No overr=
ide.
Do we have a convenience function that says whether we have a match in
auto-mode-alist? `set-auto-mode--apply-alist' seems to be the closest I
can find, and... it's not that close. :-/ But I guess it could be
refactored out of there.
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes:
>> But I guess it's pretty unlikely. Does anybody have an opinion?
>
> I vote "do it". People will rather change `diary-mode' than writing
> something own from scratch. The - not unuseful - mode is too hard to
> discover currently.
We have a chicken/egg problem, though. Adding `diary-file' to
`auto-mode-alist' would be fine, but we calculate that in calendar.el,
so people not using the calendar won't get the mode.
We could move diary-file out of calendar.el and put it in...
bindings.el or something, though?
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Francesco Potort=C3=AC <pot@HIDDEN> writes:
> When calendar is loaded, diary-file is initialised. After that, it
> could be added to the auto-mode-alist.
That's true. Grepping around, it looks like we have a number of other
packages that also add to `auto-mode-alist', so there's some precedence
for doing this, but I'm a bit unsure in this case. That is, the user
may have added something to auto-mode-alist themselves, and we don't
want to override that.
But I guess it's pretty unlikely. Does anybody have an opinion?
> The reason I am asking is that I have used the diary for years, and
> only recently, by looking at the source code for other reasons, did I
> discover that a diary-mode exists.
>
> Now I have added -*-diary-*- line to my diary file, but in fact that
> should be automatic, I think.
I think the idea is that you view the diary via the `d' command in
Calendar, and that puts the file in diary mode, I think?
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Francesco Potort=C3=AC <pot@HIDDEN> writes:
> Is there any reason why the ~/diary file is not read in diary-mode?
>
> Shouldn't it be in the auto-mode-alist?
>
> Maybe the reason is that the name of the diary is contained in the
> diay-file variable and can thus be changed?
I think putting any file that's called "diary" in diary-mode would
probably lead to too many false positives? "~/.emacs.d/diary" (which is
the default on many platforms) could safely be put in diary mode,
though, but I'm not sure that would be all that helpful in practice...
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