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>>>>> "CYD" == Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> writes:
> Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes:
>> That is fine, it's just a warning.
>> And it has the added benefit that users are aware of what might go on,
>> and it also adds a bit of pressure on the Gtk people to fix the bug.
CYD> How about issuing a warning when a new GTK frame is created?
Maybe this could be combined with your idea to auto-kill emacs, but behind
some --exit-with-session command-line parameter?
Anyhow, reading the GTK bug, I can really see how that could lead to an emacs
instance taking so much CPU, that seems like an emacs bug or?
Best wishes,
Dirk,
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Full text available.Received: (at 5386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2010 19:31:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 15 14:31:48 2010 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NVrtc-0007db-5S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:31:48 -0500 Received: from paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <dann@HIDDEN>) id 1NVrta-0007ck-3d for 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:31:46 -0500 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o0FJVZsW029676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:31:35 -0800 Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id o0FJVYGR020661; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:31:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:31:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <201001151931.o0FJVYGR020661@HIDDEN> From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> To: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#5386: 23.1.91; References: <87bpgwwh43.wl%djcb@HIDDEN> <878wbzjosj.fsf@HIDDEN> <201001151737.o0FHb8p0016488@HIDDEN> <87k4vjjl7i.fsf@HIDDEN> <201001151813.o0FIDV0S017779@HIDDEN> <87pr5brx7e.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87pr5brx7e.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:09 -0500") Lines: 23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please send mail to helpdesk@HIDDEN or more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: o0FJVZsW029676 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@HIDDEN X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5386 Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <djcb@HIDDEN>, 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> writes: > Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes: > > > That is fine, it's just a warning. > > And it has the added benefit that users are aware of what might go on, > > and it also adds a bit of pressure on the Gtk people to fix the bug. > > How about issuing a warning when a new GTK frame is created? When? Every time a GTK frame is created? That would be very annoying. After we've had a disconnect? I don't think there's a way to detect that situation reliably. Having the warning issued when starting emacs --daemon has the advantage that it's only done once per session. Sure, it does not cover all cases (you still run into trouble by doing emacs -nw -f server-start then create a GTK frame), but it does cover the most frequent use-case.
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Full text available.Received: (at 5386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2010 19:21:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 15 14:21:18 2010 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NVrjR-0007Wg-De for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:17 -0500 Received: from pantheon-po39.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.100]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <cyd@HIDDEN>) id 1NVrjP-0007Wa-PI for 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:16 -0500 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014123.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po39.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0FJLBmX016403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:11 -0500 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6097BC05D; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:21:11 -0700 (MST) From: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#5386: 23.1.91; References: <87bpgwwh43.wl%djcb@HIDDEN> <878wbzjosj.fsf@HIDDEN> <201001151737.o0FHb8p0016488@HIDDEN> <87k4vjjl7i.fsf@HIDDEN> <201001151813.o0FIDV0S017779@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:21:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201001151813.o0FIDV0S017779@HIDDEN> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:13:31 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87pr5brx7e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5386 Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <djcb@HIDDEN>, 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes: > That is fine, it's just a warning. > And it has the added benefit that users are aware of what might go on, > and it also adds a bit of pressure on the Gtk people to fix the bug. How about issuing a warning when a new GTK frame is created?
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Full text available.Received: (at 5386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2010 18:13:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 15 13:13:45 2010 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NVqg5-0006uL-5j for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:13:45 -0500 Received: from paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <dann@HIDDEN>) id 1NVqg2-0006uB-SR for 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:13:43 -0500 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o0FIDVCQ009361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:13:32 -0800 Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id o0FIDV0S017779; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:13:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:13:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <201001151813.o0FIDV0S017779@HIDDEN> From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> To: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#5386: 23.1.91; References: <87bpgwwh43.wl%djcb@HIDDEN> <878wbzjosj.fsf@HIDDEN> <201001151737.o0FHb8p0016488@HIDDEN> <87k4vjjl7i.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87k4vjjl7i.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:07:29 -0500") Lines: 23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please send mail to helpdesk@HIDDEN or more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: o0FIDVCQ009361 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@HIDDEN X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5386 Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <djcb@HIDDEN>, 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> writes: > Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Given that we get this bug report all the time, how about adding a > > printf when using --daemon when using the Gtk toolkit that describes > > the problem, and gives a pointer to the bug report? This will make > > people aware something might happen at the time they start emacs > > --daemon. > > But the user may only want to use terminal clients. That is fine, it's just a warning. And it has the added benefit that users are aware of what might go on, and it also adds a bit of pressure on the Gtk people to fix the bug. > Another idea for a workaround---assuming a GTK frame has been created, > maybe we could use the X session code (emacs-save-session-functions) to > kill Emacs when the X session ends. Opinions? (Admittedly this won't > cover all use cases, and is a bit of a hack, but it's something...) That would be very bad: most of the time the session works just fine using emacsclient -t. Losing state in that case would be very bad.
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Full text available.Received: (at 5386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2010 17:37:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 15 12:37:24 2010 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NVq6t-0006VV-Go for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:37:23 -0500 Received: from paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <dann@HIDDEN>) id 1NVq6q-0006VP-9e for 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:37:22 -0500 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o0FHb9oM032271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:37:09 -0800 Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id o0FHb8p0016488; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:37:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:37:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <201001151737.o0FHb8p0016488@HIDDEN> From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> To: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#5386: 23.1.91; References: <87bpgwwh43.wl%djcb@HIDDEN> <878wbzjosj.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes In-Reply-To: <878wbzjosj.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:50:04 -0500") Lines: 18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please send mail to helpdesk@HIDDEN or more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: o0FHb9oM032271 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@HIDDEN X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5386 Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <djcb@HIDDEN>, 5386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> writes: > Dirk-Jan C. Binnema <djcb@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I'm using emacs --daemon, and what happens quite often is that when I > > log out of my X session and log on as another user, the first user's > > daemon hangs around, and after a while start consuming a lot of CPU > > (up to 60-70% or more). Only killing it seems to help. > > I'm afraid this looks like a manifestation of Bug#3360, which is related > to a long-standing GTK bug. One way to work around is to compile Emacs > without GTK support. Given that we get this bug report all the time, how about adding a printf when using --daemon when using the Gtk toolkit that describes the problem, and gives a pointer to the bug report? This will make people aware something might happen at the time they start emacs --daemon.
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-O2 build; hopefully I can capture something from an -O0 build later. Best wishes, Dirk. 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