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Thanks. > Yes, it's the right binary. > > The issue must be specific to the way Thunar starts the application. > I've just checked that it works fine when using Nautilus (the GNOME > file manager) instead. Thanks, then we should add it to etc/PROBLEMS. (But please try to find a workaround first.)
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> Is --with-xinput2 supposed to work well without PGTK ? I run into a
> separate issue with key bindings that makes it unusable without.
`--with-xinput2' does nothing on PGTK, but it enables the use of the X
Input Extension on X, which brings support for modern input devices to
the X port. (And that support is supposed to work better than PGTK,
since you get touchpad gestures and touchscreen support, both of which
aren't available in PGTK on X.)
Please report the separate issue as a bug, if it hasn't been fixed
already on master.
XInput 2 support will eventually be enabled by default, so it's vital
for it to get a lot of testing.
> Indeed, (x-diplay-list) originally reports (":0.0"), and after the
> second frame is created, (":0.0" ":0").
I see you're launching /usr/bin/emacsclient -- emacsclient from a PGTK
build differs from one from a different build, so are you sure it's the
right emacsclient binary?
> If the bug is with GTK, can you think of any workaround on my end ?
I can't, sorry.
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Po Lu writes:
> If you're using X, you shouldn't be using PGTK. The support provided by
> the real X port is miles ahead of what GTK can offer.
Is --with-xinput2 supposed to work well without PGTK ? I run into a
separate issue with key bindings that makes it unusable without.
> That aside, I suspect emacsclient is causing Emacs to open a second
> display connection, which causes clipboard access in PGTK to be disabled
> due to a GTK bug.
>
> What does (x-display-list) evaluate to in the buggy Emacs, after you
> create the other frame which causes the bug?
Indeed, (x-diplay-list) originally reports (":0.0"), and after the
second frame is created, (":0.0" ":0").
If the bug is with GTK, can you think of any workaround on my end ?
> Thanks.
Thank you.
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Start `emacs -q --daemon` > =C2=A02. Start a frame with `emacsclient -c`. At this point, X clipboard > =C2=A0access works fine and I can copy/paste between emacs and other > applications. > =C2=A03. From Thunar (file manager from xfce), right click a file and `Op= en > =C2=A0with` emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient), creating another frame. > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 At this point, X clipboard access is broken: I cannot = copy/paste > =C2=A0between emacs and other applications. > > In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version > 3.24.31, cairo version 1.17.4) > =C2=A0of 2022-02-05 > Repository revision: 224aeb2877fffc894e9d1b31f7f44db0e55160c3 > Repository branch: master > System Description: Arch Linux If you're using X, you shouldn't be using PGTK. The support provided by the real X port is miles ahead of what GTK can offer. That aside, I suspect emacsclient is causing Emacs to open a second display connection, which causes clipboard access in PGTK to be disabled due to a GTK bug. What does (x-display-list) evaluate to in the buggy Emacs, after you create the other frame which causes the bug? Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#53957; Package emacs.
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Start `emacs -q --daemon` 2. Start a frame with `emacsclient -c`. At this point, X clipboard access works fine and I can copy/paste between emacs and other applications. 3. From Thunar (file manager from xfce), right click a file and `Open with` emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient), creating another frame. At this point, X clipboard access is broken: I cannot copy/paste between emacs and other applications. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.31, cairo version 1.17.4) of 2022-02-05 Repository revision: 224aeb2877fffc894e9d1b31f7f44db0e55160c3 Repository branch: master System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-gameuser=:games --with-sound=alsa --with-modules --without-libotf --without-m17n-flt --without-gconf --without-gsettings --with-native-compilation --with-xinput2 --with-pgtk --without-xaw3d --with-sound=no --without-gpm --without-compress-install '--program-transform-name=s/\([ec]tags\)/\1.emacs/' 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix -- Sébastien Miquel
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