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emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>

Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 21:56:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Done: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>

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From: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:05:50 -0500

GNOME has dropped its MediaKeys plugin in its 42 Beta release. It had
been deprecated for a while; MPRIS is the recommended replacement.

org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/268

Thank you,
Jeremy Bicha
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From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>
Cc: 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 08:51:37 +0800

Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com> writes:

> GNOME has dropped its MediaKeys plugin in its 42 Beta release. It had
> been deprecated for a while; MPRIS is the recommended replacement.
>
> org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys
>
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/268
>
> Thank you,
> Jeremy Bicha

Where do we have GNOME MediaKeys support?

And we won't remove support for GNOME features the moment they are
removed in the latest version of GNOME, since it takes more stable
distributions several years to catch up.

Thanks.
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>, 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:36:20 +0100

Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> Where do we have GNOME MediaKeys support?

The only mention I can find of "MediaKeys" in the Emacs sources are in
examples in manuals and doc strings:

@result{} (("/org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/MediaKeys"
     ("org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys")

Jeremy, is this what you had in mind?

> And we won't remove support for GNOME features the moment they are
> removed in the latest version of GNOME, since it takes more stable
> distributions several years to catch up.

Indeed.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>, 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 20:47:35 +0800

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> The only mention I can find of "MediaKeys" in the Emacs sources are in
> examples in manuals and doc strings:
>
> @result{} (("/org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/MediaKeys"
>      ("org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys")
>
> Jeremy, is this what you had in mind?

If that's indeed what Jeremy had in mind, then IMO we should postpone
updating the documentation to remove those mentions until GNOME 42 is
released, otherwise it will not represent what is canonically installed
on a up-to-date system.

Thanks.
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From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 21:35:49 +0800

Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com> writes:

> Yes, that's all. I did a search for things that mentioned GNOME's
> MediaKeys. It's already deprecated so people shouldn't use it and
> assume it will still be there in the future.

Thanks, then I'll update the documentation once GNOME 42 is released and
close this report.
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From: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:21:48 -0500

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 7:47 AM Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>
> > The only mention I can find of "MediaKeys" in the Emacs sources are in
> > examples in manuals and doc strings:
> >
> > @result{} (("/org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/MediaKeys"
> >      ("org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys")
> >
> > Jeremy, is this what you had in mind?
>
> If that's indeed what Jeremy had in mind, then IMO we should postpone
> updating the documentation to remove those mentions until GNOME 42 is
> released, otherwise it will not represent what is canonically installed
> on a up-to-date system.

Yes, that's all. I did a search for things that mentioned GNOME's
MediaKeys. It's already deprecated so people shouldn't use it and
assume it will still be there in the future.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>, 54046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:05:45 -0500

Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com> writes:
>
>> Yes, that's all. I did a search for things that mentioned GNOME's
>> MediaKeys. It's already deprecated so people shouldn't use it and
>> assume it will still be there in the future.
>
> Thanks, then I'll update the documentation once GNOME 42 is released and
> close this report.

Just a reminder about this: GNOME 42 was released on March 23, 2022.
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From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jeremy.bicha <at> canonical.com>, 54046-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: Re: bug#54046: emacs: Remove GNOME MediaKeys support
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 15:43:28 +0800

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

>> Thanks, then I'll update the documentation once GNOME 42 is released and
>> close this report.

> Just a reminder about this: GNOME 42 was released on March 23, 2022.

Right, I forgot about that.  It will be done shortly.
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