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Multiline y-or-n prompt in files.el

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:56:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> find-file-noselect has a multiline y-or-n-p prompt if the file is
>> already visited and modified (and in a different rawness). =C2=A0That on=
ly
>> works when the minibuffer can be resized, sadly. =C2=A0In my case (separ=
ate
>> minibuffer), I only see the beginning of the prompt.
>
> I think multiline text should be displayed in a separate window
> above the minibuffer. =C2=A0I guess this configuration will also work
> for the case where the minibuffer is displayed in a separate frame.

That sounds a bit strange to me, but maybe I am misunderstanding something?




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> find-file-noselect has a multiline y-or-n-p prompt if the file is
> already visited and modified (and in a different rawness).  That only
> works when the minibuffer can be resized, sadly.  In my case (separate
> minibuffer), I only see the beginning of the prompt.

I think multiline text should be displayed in a separate window
above the minibuffer.  I guess this configuration will also work
for the case where the minibuffer is displayed in a separate frame.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




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> Is not the right fix to allow minibuffer resizing even when the
> minibuffer frame is separate?
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> I have never heard of the problem with resizing the minibuffer. Is
> that documented somewhere?

Please, _no_.

A standalone minibuffer frame's size and its other defined qualities should be
respected. Respect the user.





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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@HIDDEN> wrot=
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> * Lennart Borgman [2010-01-19 15:12+0100] writes:
>
>> Is not the right fix to allow minibuffer resizing even when the
>> minibuffer frame is separate?
>>
>> I have never heard of the problem with resizing the minibuffer. Is
>> that documented somewhere?
>
> There is the variable resize-mini-windows. =C2=A0I set that to nil and
> multiline messages are very annoying.


I can agreee multiline message are annoying, but I do not find
multiline prompts annoying. It seems a bit wrong that they are coupled
to each other.





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* Lennart Borgman [2010-01-19 15:12+0100] writes:

> Is not the right fix to allow minibuffer resizing even when the
> minibuffer frame is separate?
>
> I have never heard of the problem with resizing the minibuffer. Is
> that documented somewhere?

There is the variable resize-mini-windows.  I set that to nil and
multiline messages are very annoying.

Helmut






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> already visited and modified (and in a different rawness). =C2=A0That onl=
y
> works when the minibuffer can be resized, sadly. =C2=A0In my case (separa=
te
> minibuffer), I only see the beginning of the prompt.


Is not the right fix to allow minibuffer resizing even when the
minibuffer frame is separate?

I have never heard of the problem with resizing the minibuffer. Is
that documented somewhere?




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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Stefan Monnier
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> Package: Emacs
> Version: 23.1.91
>
> find-file-noselect has a multiline y-or-n-p prompt if the file is
> already visited and modified (and in a different rawness). =C2=A0That onl=
y
> works when the minibuffer can be resized, sadly. =C2=A0In my case (separa=
te
> minibuffer), I only see the beginning of the prompt.


Is not the right fix to allow minibuffer resizing even when the
minibuffer frame is separate?

I have never heard of the problem with resizing the minibuffer. Is
that documented somewhere?





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Package: Emacs
Version: 23.1.91

find-file-noselect has a multiline y-or-n-p prompt if the file is
already visited and modified (and in a different rawness).  That only
works when the minibuffer can be resized, sadly.  In my case (separate
minibuffer), I only see the beginning of the prompt.


        Stefan



In GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3)
 of 2010-01-17 on ceviche
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10704000
configured using `configure  'CFLAGS=-Wall -Wno-pointer-sign -DUSE_LISP_UNION_TYPE -DSYNC_INPUT -DENABLE_CHECKING -DXASSERTS -DFONTSET_DEBUG -g -O1 -I/usr/include/GNUstep' 'LDFLAGS=-L/home/monnier/src/Xaw3d' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/home/monnier/src/Xaw3d''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: fr_CH.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Minibuffer-Area

Minor modes in effect:
  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  url-handler-mode: t
  global-reveal-mode: t
  reveal-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-y <backspace> C-x C-s M-x M-p <return> C-x C-k <return> 
C-g C-x k <return> M-x M-p <return> C-x k <return> 
C-h f r m a <tab> <return> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> C-x k 
<return> M-x r m a <tab> <tab> - <tab> b u f <tab> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <tab> C-g C-h f 
r m a <tab> <return> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> <switch-frame> 
<help-echo> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> C-x C-c C-u 
M-x M-p <return> M-p <return> <right> C-g <C-down-mouse-3> 
<options> <debug-on-quit> C-u M-x M-p <return> M-p 
<return> C-g <select-window> <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-2> C-c @ C-a <down> 
<left> <right> <down> <left> <right> <down> <left> 
<right> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> C-s 
, \ n C-a C-s a l r e a s y <backspace> <backspace> 
d y C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r C-r C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s 
C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s 
C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s <switch-frame> <switch-frame> C-a 
C-s i s SPC a l r e a d y SPC v i s i C-a <C-left> 
<right> <up> <left> <right> <down> <left> <right> <down> 
<left> <right> <up> <left> <right> <down> <left> <right> 
<down> <left> <right> <down> <left> <right> <up> <up> 
<left> <right> <up> <left> <right> <up> <left> <right> 
<down> <left> <right> <down> <left> <right> <down> 
<left> <right> <down> <left> <right> <down> <left> 
<right> <down> <left> <right> <down> <left> <right> 
<down> <left> <right> <up> <left> <right> <help-echo> 
<switch-frame> <switch-frame> <select-window> M-x r 
e p o - e m - b u <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Quit
Debug on Quit enabled globally
The file TP1-plans is already visited literally,
meaning no coding system decoding, format conversion, or local variables.
You have asked to visit it normally,
but Emacs can only visit a file in one way at a time.

Do you want to revisit the file normally now? (y or n) 
Entering debugger...
Mark saved where search started [3 times]

Load-path shadows:
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-com hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-com
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-ftp hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-ftp
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-rmail hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-rmail
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-mhe hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-mhe
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gui hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-gui
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-print hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-print
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-w3 hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-w3
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-sc hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-sc
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-whois hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-whois
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-snarf hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-snarf
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-merge hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-merge
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-vm hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-vm
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-migrate hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-migrate
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gnus hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-gnus
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-hooks hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-hooks

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr message sendmail ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec
password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231
rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc
time-date gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock hashcash emacsbug
cus-start cus-load edmacro kmacro speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe assoc
find-func rmail mail-utils debug executable copyright smerge-mode
multi-isearch vc-bzr sha1 hex-util filecache diff-mode server noutline
outline easy-mmode flyspell ispell eldoc checkdoc regexp-opt thingatpt
help-mode easymenu view url-handlers url-parse url-vars mm-util
mail-prsvr reveal autoinsert uniquify advice help-fns advice-preload
savehist minibuf-eldef cl cl-19 cl-loaddefs proof-site proof-autoloads
pg-vars bbdb-autoloads agda2 tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
mwheel x-win x-dnd font-setting tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe
lisp-mode register page newcomment menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core frame cham
georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties
overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind
system-font-setting font-render-setting gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)





Acknowledgement sent to Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#5423; Package emacs. Full text available.
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