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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Or did you mean: like `help-for-help'? That's similar. Scrolling > `help-for-help' with the mouse wheel loses the prompt for a key, btw, > only scrolling with the scroll bar works as expected for me [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 54285 Cc: 54285 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= <salutis@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Or did you mean: like `help-for-help'? That's similar. Scrolling > `help-for-help' with the mouse wheel loses the prompt for a key, btw, > only scrolling with the scroll bar works as expected for me. Yes, more like `help-for-help'. Or rather, I'd like to see a little library/function for these kinds of things, that allow the immediate response of a `read-event' loop, but which doesn't disable scrolling with the scroll bar and mouse wheel. And which has, as an option, the possibility of not exiting when entering a non-bound key. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Perhaps a better way to > > implement this would be to use the normal help functions (which are less > > modal) so that these things work better? Or did you mean: like `help-for-help'? That's similar. Scrolling `help-for-help' with the mouse wheel loses the prompt for a key, btw, only scrolling with the scroll bar works as expected for me. Note that `help-for-help' is a front end for help commands, while `calc-dispatch-help' more or less only summarizes the commands reachable from the outside Calc C-x * prefix. The Calc help stuff doesn't even seem to be reachable from C-x *. BTW, there is a way to get that buffer directly and without a key prompt: C-h f calc-dispatch-help RET. Michael.
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Perhaps a better way to > implement this would be to use the normal help functions (which are less > modal) so that these things work better? From what I know: This particular help command is intended to be used intermediately while reading a key binding: you are supposed to look up the next key and hit it directly, without interruption. It's using `read-event' on purpose. I also don't like that much, but there are other good help commands to use instead. I fear that if you try to change this it will make things worse or less consistent, the Calc help system is complex, and you might end up with a non-trivial redesign. Dunno if the result would be much of an improvement. Maybe it's not that bad, dunno, but please be careful. Michael.
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Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@HIDDEN> writes:
> The user starts reading help and as they reach the end of the visible
> part of the buffer, they scroll the window *with the scroll bar*.
>
> Expected: the window scrolls, the user continues reading
> Actual: Emacs beeps, closes the window, and tells the user:
>
> "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil"
calc-dispatch-help is basically just looping over `read-event' and
responding only to the keyboard scroll keys. Perhaps a better way to
implement this would be to use the normal help functions (which are less
modal) so that these things work better?
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C-x * ? ? At this point: - the frame splits vertically, and - the bottom window shows help with a scroll bar. Scenario 1: The user starts reading help and as they reach the end of the visible part of the buffer, they scroll the window *with the mouse wheel*. Expected: the window scrolls, the user continues reading Actual: Emacs beeps and closes the window Scenario 2: The user starts reading help and as they reach the end of the visible part of the buffer, they scroll the window *with the scroll bar*. Expected: the window scrolls, the user continues reading Actual: Emacs beeps, closes the window, and tells the user: "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil" Scenario 3 (optional): The user starts reading help and as they reach the end of the visible part of the buffer, they move the cursor with C-n. Expected: the cursor in the window advances to the next line Actual: Emacs beeps, closes the window, and tells the user: "No active formulas in the buffer" Note: Emacs should never abruptly close any help window just because the user typed some "bad" key or performed some "bad" mouse interaction. Doing so frustrates the user and prevents them from learning. 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