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unexpected download after gc

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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: unexpected download after gc
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 14:50:01 +0100

Hi,

Considering this with revision a03936a:

    guix gc
    guix install python-ipython -p tools
    guix gc
    guix install python-ipython -p tools

I am surprised that:

 1. the second GC collects things
 2. the second install downloads things

especially by this line:

python-ipython-7.27.0  892KiB  4.6MiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%


Well, it is because of grafts.  The profile contains the grafted
version and the installation expect first the non-grafted for computing
the graft.  For instance:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix gc --list-dead | grep ipython
finding garbage collector roots...
determining live/dead paths...
/gnu/store/xmw4vxabnkm7vwa0ywfcqcmknbnia0c3-python-ipython-7.27.0

guix build python-ipython --no-grafts
/gnu/store/xmw4vxabnkm7vwa0ywfcqcmknbnia0c3-python-ipython-7.27.0
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

When something is grafted, is it possible to consider the non-grafted as
a "derivation", i.e., control the GC with 'gc-keep-derivations'.

Or the grafted could keep a reference to the non-grafted?


Well, I was expecting that this composition:

    guix gc && guix install

was "idempotent" in a way. :-) And to me, the fact that it is not is
somehow a bug.  Maybe, it is already well-known and not considered as
bug.


Cheers,
simon

Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: raingloom <raingloom <at> riseup.net>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#54495: unexpected download after gc
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 21:00:28 +0100

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 14:50:01 +0100
zimoun <zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Considering this with revision a03936a:
> 
>     guix gc
>     guix install python-ipython -p tools
>     guix gc
>     guix install python-ipython -p tools
> 
> I am surprised that:
> 
>  1. the second GC collects things
>  2. the second install downloads things
> 
> especially by this line:
> 
> python-ipython-7.27.0  892KiB  4.6MiB/s 00:00 [##################]
> 100.0%
> 
> 
> Well, it is because of grafts.  The profile contains the grafted
> version and the installation expect first the non-grafted for
> computing the graft.  For instance:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ guix gc --list-dead | grep ipython
> finding garbage collector roots...
> determining live/dead paths...
> /gnu/store/xmw4vxabnkm7vwa0ywfcqcmknbnia0c3-python-ipython-7.27.0
> 
> guix build python-ipython --no-grafts
> /gnu/store/xmw4vxabnkm7vwa0ywfcqcmknbnia0c3-python-ipython-7.27.0
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> When something is grafted, is it possible to consider the non-grafted
> as a "derivation", i.e., control the GC with 'gc-keep-derivations'.
> 
> Or the grafted could keep a reference to the non-grafted?
> 
> 
> Well, I was expecting that this composition:
> 
>     guix gc && guix install
> 
> was "idempotent" in a way. :-) And to me, the fact that it is not is
> somehow a bug.  Maybe, it is already well-known and not considered as
> bug.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> simon
> 
> 
> 

There should definitely be more attention paid to offline use so IMHO
this is a bug. Or at least missing feature.

Message #11 received at 54495 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: David Elsing <david.elsing <at> posteo.net>
To: zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com
Cc: 54495 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: unexpected download after gc
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:36:56 +0000

Hello,

AFAICT, there is no way to determine which ungrafted package a grafted
package comes from without the derivation of the grafted package (where
the ungrafted package is referenced). Therefore, I think adding a
reference to the ungrafted package in the package itself (your second
suggestion) would be the simplest way: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66824

Presently, it is inconvenient to globally run guix gc at all for me, as
many (dependent) packages are deleted and substituted again when
rebuilding several profiles built with grafts.

Cheers,
David

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