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Dear Guix Developers
I love the Guix's vision of system management.
Thank you for your hard work to implement it.
It pains me greatly to see the documentation be completely useless.
It gives descriptions of Guix programs,
but almost nothing usable for configuration files.
I am considering filing a bug report for each inadequate chapter.
Please reply whether this is welcome.
My aim is to rewrite the documentation in a way usable to someone,
who has never used Guix before.
I decided to prioritize channel documentation,
because this is my current blocker.
My goal is to keep a local mirror of the guix repository,
with my personal changes and additions.
Following is the list of the documentation problems.
1. (channel (introduction -)) is not mentioned at all.
2. What ==is== the channel introduction?
Which commit am I supposed to use?
How do I find the PGP fingerprint?
3. How do I declare a local repository?
4. How do I declare a channel within the config.scm file?
Respectfully,
Guix Noob
Marek Pasnikowski
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> 3. How do I declare a local repository?
The same way as an external repository. Just replace the "https://..."
of the repo at savannah with
"file://home/user/location/of/git/repository". But yes, this could be
documented ...
Greetings,
Maxime.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> 4. How do I declare a channel within the config.scm file?
What do you mean with =E2=80=98the config.scm file=E2=80=99 here? The oper=
ating system
configuration file, which is conventionally named configuration.scm or
config.scm but in principle can be named anything? The
~/.config/guix/current/channels.scm file? The Guix Home configuration
(if any)? The manifest used for the user profile (if any, using "guix
install" and friends is also an option)?
Greetings,
Maxime.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> 1. (channel (introduction -)) is not mentioned at all.
It isn't in (guix)Specifying Aditional Channels, because its optional
(albeit nice to have for security). It is documented in the next few
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> How do I find the PGP fingerprint?
(guix)Channel Authentication
The specification above shows the name and URL of the channel. The
call to =E2=80=98make-channel-introduction=E2=80=99 above specifies that au=
thentication
of this channel starts at commit =E2=80=986f0d8cc...=E2=80=99, which is sig=
ned by the
OpenPGP key with fingerprint =E2=80=98CABB A931...=E2=80=99.
The PGP fingerprint is the PGP fingerprint that is used to sign the
commit. You can find it in the PGP application you used to create your
PGP key.
Greetings,
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> 2. What =3D=3Dis=3D=3D the channel introduction?
=46rom (guix)Channel Authentication:
As a user, you must provide a =E2=80=9Cchannel introduction=E2=80=9D in =
your
channels file so that Guix knows how to authenticate its first commit.
A channel specification, including its introduction, looks something
along these lines:
(channel
(name 'some-channel)
(url "https://example.org/some-channel.git")
(introduction
(make-channel-introduction
"6f0d8cc0d88abb59c324b2990bfee2876016bb86"
(openpgp-fingerprint
"CABB A931 C0FF EEC6 900D 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5"))))
It's the (make-channel-introduction [...]) thing. It's just a bunch of
information that Guix can use to authenticate the first commit of the
channel. Also see ...
> Which commit am I supposed to use?
The first commit that adds (or in your case, modifies) the .guix-
authorization file. From (guix)Specifying Channel Authorizations:
This authentication rule creates a chicken-and-egg issue: how do we
authenticate the first commit? Related to that: how do we deal with
channels whose repository history contains unsigned commits and lack
=E2=80=98.guix-authorizations=E2=80=99? And how do we fork existing channe=
ls?
Channel introductions answer these questions by describing the first
commit of a channel that should be authenticated. The first time a
channel is fetched with =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98guix time-m=
achine=E2=80=99, the command
looks up the introductory commit and verifies that it is signed by the
specified OpenPGP key. From then on, it authenticates commits
according to the rule above. Authentication fails if the target commit
is neither a descendant nor an ancestor of the introductory commit.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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Maxime Devos schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 19:53 [+0200]:
> Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 18:21 [+0200]:
> > 3. How do I declare a local repository?
>=20
> The same way as an external repository.=C2=A0 Just replace the
> "https://..."
> of the repo at savannah with
> "file://home/user/location/of/git/repository".=C2=A0 But yes, this could
> be
> documented ...
Or simpler: "/home/user/location/of/..." might work too ...
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Thank you for the quick reply.
Those are my conclusions:
1. If I clone someone else's channel, do not bother with the
introduction.
2. If I create my own channel from scratch,
then I have to authorize it with my key.
Thus I know the commit and the key fingerprint.
3. For a local repository, use (url "file://") or (url "/path").
Is any of these wrong?
Regarding point 4.: I meant both /etc/config.scm and
~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm .
My understanding is that it should be possible to define private
(user specific) channels.
I could be wrong here.
I do not like the ~/.config/guix/channels.scm file,
because it lives outside of the home configuration.
I would rather have it generated from the home config file.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 20:43 [+0200]:
> Regarding point 4.: I meant both /etc/config.scm and
> ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm .
> My understanding is that it should be possible to define private
> (user specific) channels.
> I could be wrong here.
> I do not like the ~/.config/guix/channels.scm file,
> because it lives outside of the home configuration.
FWIW, you can create a symlink from ~/.config/guix/channels.scm to
~/src/guix-config/channels.scm and modify ~/src/guix-
config/channels.scm. That way, the configuration files live together,
which might be close enough for your purposes.
> I would rather have it generated from the home config file.
You can define user-specific channels, in ~/.config/guix/channels.scm.
I suppose it might be technically possible to write a home
configuration that puts a file in ~/.config/guix/channels.scm and/or
runs the equivalent of "guix pull".
However, that's too late. What you want is the home or system to be
reconfigured with a certain guix+channels Y mentioned in the home or
system configuration. But when you run "guix system reconfigure", that
reconfiguration is performed with guix X. While after the
reconfiguration, the guix is updated, the reconfiguration uses the old
guix.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 20:43 [+0200]:
> 1. If I clone someone else's channel, do not bother with the
> introduction.
If with =E2=80=98clone=E2=80=99 you mean a =E2=80=98local git checkout+modi=
fications=E2=80=99 here, and
its a local clone, then probably yes --- if some attacker can replace
the contents of your local repository, that's not something in Guix'
threat model ...
Now, if you choose to publish your modified version of someone's
channel to other people, then the other people might appreciate to have
introductions and .guix-authorization set-up.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 20:43 [+0200]:
> 3. For a local repository, use (url "file://")=C2=A0or (url "/path").
Yes, that should work.
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Marek Pa=C5=9Bnikowski schreef op ma 04-04-2022 om 20:43 [+0200]:
> 2. If I create my own channel from scratch,
> then I have to authorize it with my key.
> Thus I know the commit and the key fingerprint.
You don't have to do any authorization -- you can skip .guix-
authorization and channel introductions. However, by skipping this,
you lose some nice security properties, so I cannot recommend this if
the channel is published over the Internet or something for other
people. But if it's purely local, then skipping it is probably fine.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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