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How can I set emacs to show parens when the point is anywhere inside of
them?

For example, with the point in the character "i": (po|int)

Coming from other editors, I expect that the parens are highlighted, but in
emacs they're only highlighted the point is on paren or immediately after
it, even with the variable "Show Paren When Point Inside Paren" set to "on".

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anywhere inside of them?</div><div><br></div><div>For example, with the poi=
nt in the character &quot;i&quot;: (po|int)</div><div><br></div><div>Coming=
 from other editors, I expect that the parens are highlighted, but in emacs=
 they&#39;re only highlighted the point is on paren or immediately after it=
, even with the variable &quot;Show Paren When Point Inside Paren&quot; set=
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Jos=C3=A9 J=C3=BAnior <jjnilton@HIDDEN> writes:

> How can I set emacs to show parens when the point is anywhere inside of t=
hem?
>
> For example, with the point in the character "i": (po|int)
>
> Coming from other editors, I expect that the parens are highlighted,
> but in emacs they're only highlighted the point is on paren or
> immediately after it, even with the variable "Show Paren When Point
> Inside Paren" set to "on".

That variable doc says "If non-nil, show parens when point is just
inside one.", so when point is right by the paren.

Anyway, I think it would make sense to add what you're requesting -- but
I'm not sure it would be efficient, or that it's well-defined.  For
instance, if you're in text-mode and the text is

  {(foo|bar})

what should it be blinking?

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José Júnior <jjnilton@HIDDEN> writes:

> How can I set emacs to show parens when the point is anywhere inside of them?

If you are comfortable with installing packages, "highlight parentheses"
(https://sr.ht/~tsdh/highlight-parentheses.el/) implements this.

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>
> That variable doc says "If non-nil, show parens when point is just
> inside one.", so when point is right by the paren.


Thanks for the explanation.

Anyway, I think it would make sense to add what you're requesting -- but
> I'm not sure it would be efficient, or that it's well-defined.  For
> instance, if you're in text-mode and the text is
>
>   {(foo|bar})
>
> what should it be blinking?
>

I didn't know how to answer, so I looked how other editors do. I found two
behaviors:

1. Unless the point is right by the parens, it should highlight the curly
braces. So in this case it would highlight the curly braces.

With the point in these places would highlight the parens, otherwise would
highlight the curly braces:

{|(|foobar}|)|

2. Ignore and don't highlight anything.

On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:43 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Jos=C3=A9 J=C3=BAnior <jjnilton@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > How can I set emacs to show parens when the point is anywhere inside of
> them?
> >
> > For example, with the point in the character "i": (po|int)
> >
> > Coming from other editors, I expect that the parens are highlighted,
> > but in emacs they're only highlighted the point is on paren or
> > immediately after it, even with the variable "Show Paren When Point
> > Inside Paren" set to "on".
>
> That variable doc says "If non-nil, show parens when point is just
> inside one.", so when point is right by the paren.
>
> Anyway, I think it would make sense to add what you're requesting -- but
> I'm not sure it would be efficient, or that it's well-defined.  For
> instance, if you're in text-mode and the text is
>
>   {(foo|bar})
>
> what should it be blinking?
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
That variable doc says &quot;If non-nil, show parens when point is just<br>
inside one.&quot;, so when point is right by the paren.

</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the explanation.</div><div><br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Anyway, I thin=
k it would make sense to add what you&#39;re requesting -- but<br>
I&#39;m not sure it would be efficient, or that it&#39;s well-defined.=C2=
=A0 For<br>
instance, if you&#39;re in text-mode and the text is<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 {(foo|bar})<br>
<br>
what should it be blinking?<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></div></block=
quote><div><br></div><div>I didn&#39;t know how to answer, so I looked how =
other editors do. I found two behaviors: <br></div><div><br></div><div>1. U=
nless the point is right by the parens, it should highlight the curly brace=
s. So in this case it would highlight the curly braces.</div><div><br></div=
><div>With the point in these places would highlight the parens, otherwise =
would highlight the curly braces:</div><div><br></div><div>
{|(|foobar}|)| <br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div>2. Ignore and don&#=
39;t highlight anything.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:43 AM Lars Ingeb=
rigtsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:larsi@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">larsi@gnus.=
org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">Jos=C3=A9 J=C3=BAnior &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjnilton@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank">jjnilton@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; How can I set emacs to show parens when the point is anywhere inside o=
f them?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For example, with the point in the character &quot;i&quot;: (po|int)<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Coming from other editors, I expect that the parens are highlighted,<b=
r>
&gt; but in emacs they&#39;re only highlighted the point is on paren or<br>
&gt; immediately after it, even with the variable &quot;Show Paren When Poi=
nt<br>
&gt; Inside Paren&quot; set to &quot;on&quot;.<br>
<br>
That variable doc says &quot;If non-nil, show parens when point is just<br>
inside one.&quot;, so when point is right by the paren.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I think it would make sense to add what you&#39;re requesting -- bu=
t<br>
I&#39;m not sure it would be efficient, or that it&#39;s well-defined.=C2=
=A0 For<br>
instance, if you&#39;re in text-mode and the text is<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 {(foo|bar})<br>
<br>
what should it be blinking?<br>
<br>
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Jos=C3=A9 J=C3=BAnior <jjnilton@HIDDEN> writes:

> I didn't know how to answer, so I looked how other editors do. I found tw=
o behaviors:=20
>
> 1. Unless the point is right by the parens, it should highlight the curly=
 braces. So in
> this case it would highlight the curly braces.
>
> With the point in these places would highlight the parens, otherwise woul=
d highlight
> the curly braces:
>
> {|(|foobar}|)|=20
>
> 2. Ignore and don't highlight anything.

I guess 2) seems more consistent, but I don't have much of an opinion.
Choosing one or the other of the parentheses seems a bit arbitrary.=20

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