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29.0.50; MSW menu bar help text doesn't show when blink-cursor-mode is off

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; MSW menu bar help text doesn't show when blink-cursor-mode
 is off
Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 11:00:11 +0800

Move the mouse over any menu bar item that normally shows a tooltip.
That tooltip will not be displayed if `blink-cursor-mode' is turned off.

In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2022-05-01 built on DESKTOP-Q5AN53D
Repository revision: 07ae30d8f24ce46dbb7c2fbfa02002c1b4c2b6b7
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19044
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19044.1645)

Configured using:
 'configure
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/mingw64/lib/pkgconfig:/mingw64/share/pkgconfig'

Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY
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Important settings:
  value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: ENU
  locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Compilation

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
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  font-lock-mode: t
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  line-number-mode: t
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Message #8 received at 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#55203: 29.0.50;
 MSW menu bar help text doesn't show when blink-cursor-mode is off
Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 09:25:00 +0300

> Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 11:00:11 +0800
> From:  Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> 
> Move the mouse over any menu bar item that normally shows a tooltip.
> That tooltip will not be displayed if `blink-cursor-mode' is turned off.

This is a well-known problem.  It is caused by the implementation of
Emacs menus on MS-Windows: we start a separate message loop for
handling the menu events, and this suspends the main event loop.  When
blink-cursor-mode is ON, the timer causes the main event loop to turn
a notch, and then Emacs produces the help-echo for the menu item; but
without cursor blinking and no other sources of async input events,
that doesn't happen.

Patches to fix that are welcome.

Message #11 received at 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#55203: 29.0.50; MSW menu bar help text doesn't show when
 blink-cursor-mode is off
Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 14:32:14 +0800

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> This is a well-known problem.  It is caused by the implementation of
> Emacs menus on MS-Windows: we start a separate message loop for
> handling the menu events, and this suspends the main event loop.  When
> blink-cursor-mode is ON, the timer causes the main event loop to turn
> a notch, and then Emacs produces the help-echo for the menu item; but
> without cursor blinking and no other sources of async input events,
> that doesn't happen.

Thanks.  Could you point to where that "separate message loop" is
started?  I couldn't find anything in w32menu.c.

Message #14 received at 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#55203: 29.0.50; MSW menu bar help text doesn't show when
 blink-cursor-mode is off
Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 10:10:43 +0300

> From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
> Cc: 55203 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 14:32:14 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > This is a well-known problem.  It is caused by the implementation of
> > Emacs menus on MS-Windows: we start a separate message loop for
> > handling the menu events, and this suspends the main event loop.  When
> > blink-cursor-mode is ON, the timer causes the main event loop to turn
> > a notch, and then Emacs produces the help-echo for the menu item; but
> > without cursor blinking and no other sources of async input events,
> > that doesn't happen.
> 
> Thanks.  Could you point to where that "separate message loop" is
> started?  I couldn't find anything in w32menu.c.

It's in w32fns.c, under WM_EMACS_TRACKPOPUPMENU.  w32menu.c sends the
WM_EMACS_TRACKPOPUPMENU message to the main window procedure when the
menu is ready to be displayed.  We then call TrackPopupMenu and
discard any mouse events except those which select a menu item (AFAIU
what happens there; I'm nowhere close to being an expert on this
stuff).

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