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Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@HIDDEN> writes:

> [How to reproduce the problem]
>
> 1. cd C:/Users/yasu/Temp
> 2. git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs.git
> 3. Start Emacs with 'emacs -Q'
> 4. Type '(check-declare-directory "C:/Users/yasu/Temp/emacs/lisp")'
>    and C-j.

[...]

> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Opening input file" "Invalid a=
rgument" "c:/Users/yasu/=E3=83=95=E3=82=A1=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AB=E3=81=8C=E8=A6=
=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9B=E3=82=93 - \"^[ \11]*(decl=
are-funct...")
>   insert-file-contents("=E3=83=95=E3=82=A1=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AB=E3=81=8C=E8=
=A6=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9B=E3=82=93 - \"^[ \11]*(d=
eclare-function\"")
>   check-declare-scan("=E3=83=95=E3=82=A1=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AB=E3=81=8C=E8=A6=
=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9B=E3=82=93 - \"^[ \11]*(decl=
are-function\"")
>   check-declare-files("=E3=83=95=E3=82=A1=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AB=E3=81=8C=E8=
=A6=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9B=E3=82=93 - \"^[ \11]*(d=
eclare-function\"")
>   apply(check-declare-files "=E3=83=95=E3=82=A1=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AB=E3=81=
=8C=E8=A6=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9B=E3=82=93 - \"^[ \=
11]*(declare-function\"")

check-declare-directory is just a wrapper around `find', and I'm surprised
that this even vaguely works on Windows:

(defun check-declare-directory (root)
[...]
  (let ((files (process-lines-ignore-status
                find-program root
                "-name" "*.el"
                "-exec" grep-program
                "-l" "^[ \t]*(declare-function" "{}" "+")))

If you run this "manually", what does it output?

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> Cc: 55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 17:57:01 +0200
> 
> > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Opening input file" "Invalid argument" "c:/Users/yasu/ファイルが見つかりません - \"^[ \11]*(declare-funct...")
> >   insert-file-contents("ファイルが見つかりません - \"^[ \11]*(declare-function\"")
> >   check-declare-scan("ファイルが見つかりません - \"^[ \11]*(declare-function\"")
> >   check-declare-files("ファイルが見つかりません - \"^[ \11]*(declare-function\"")
> >   apply(check-declare-files "ファイルが見つかりません - \"^[ \11]*(declare-function\"")
> 
> check-declare-directory is just a wrapper around `find', and I'm surprised
> that this even vaguely works on Windows:

Why are you surprised?

> (defun check-declare-directory (root)
> [...]
>   (let ((files (process-lines-ignore-status
>                 find-program root
>                 "-name" "*.el"
>                 "-exec" grep-program
>                 "-l" "^[ \t]*(declare-function" "{}" "+")))
> 
> If you run this "manually", what does it output?

Here, it produces a long list of *.el files.

The string "ファイルが見つかりません" translates from Japanese as
"File not found".  So I suspect the OP doesn't have a port of GNU Find
on Path before the Windows program of the same name (which does
something completely different), or maybe the version of Find or Grep
the OP has don't support non-ASCII characters encoded in the OP's
locale's codepage.

Basically, that command tries to tell us that some (or all) of the
files were not found.

I wonder whether it could be a good idea to replace the find/grep
command by something that traverses the files in Lisp, like
dired-do-search or somesuch?  This would resolve any problems with
file names and incompatible versions of Find and Grep.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#55386: 29.0.50; check-declare-directory doesn't work on Windows
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 17:57:01 +0200

> check-declare-directory is just a wrapper around `find', and I'm surprised
> that this even vaguely works on Windows:
> 
> (defun check-declare-directory (root)
> [...]
>   (let ((files (process-lines-ignore-status
>                 find-program root
>                 "-name" "*.el"
>                 "-exec" grep-program
>                 "-l" "^[ \t]*(declare-function" "{}" "+")))
> 
> If you run this "manually", what does it output?
> 
> -- 
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Thanks for reply. And sorry, it seems I misunderstood the problem. At
first I faced the error of check-declare-directory when I tried to
build and install some 3rd party elisp applications. Recently they
start to use the function at their build process and it causes build
error as following.

(MINGW64)yasu@half[1018]% make lisp
make[1]: Entering directory '/c/Users/yasu/Work/Emacs/with-editor/lisp'
Compiling with-editor.el
 Creating with-editor-autoloads.el
 Checking function declarations

Error: file-error ("Opening input file" "Invalid argument" "c:/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'")
  mapbacktrace(#f(compiled-function (evald func args flags) #<bytecode -0x10a1f18ad911994>))
  debug-early-backtrace()
  debug-early(error (file-error "Opening input file" "Invalid argument" "c:/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'"))
  insert-file-contents("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'")
  check-declare-scan("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'")
  check-declare-files("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'" "/usr/bin/find: possible unquoted pattern after predicate `-name'?")
  apply(check-declare-files ("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'" "/usr/bin/find: possible unquoted pattern after predicate `-name'?"))
  check-declare-directory("~/Work/Emacs/with-editor/lisp/")
  eval((check-declare-directory default-directory) t)
  command-line-1(("--eval" "(setq with-editor-emacsclient-executable nil)" "-L" "../../compat" "-L" "../../vterm" "-L" "." "--eval" "(check-declare-directory default-directory)"))
  command-line()
  normal-top-level()
Opening input file: Invalid argument, c:/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:14: check-declare] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/c/Users/yasu/Work/Emacs/with-editor/lisp'
make: *** [Makefile:25: lisp] Error 2
(MINGW64)yasu@half[1019]%  

In this case I executed make.exe from shell of MSYS2. So find.exe and
grep.exe of MSYS2 are used.

But when I directly evaluated check-declare-directory from *scratch*
buffer, I executed emacs from command prompt of Windows. And in this
case there is neither find.exe nor grep.exe in my PATH directories. So
check-declare-directory fails differently. And I wrongly reported it
as the bug of Emacs. Actually if I execute emacs from shell of MSYS2,
then steps of original bug report mail results in expected behavior.

I don't know why above build error happens. But probably it is bug of
the elisp applications in question.  So I'll report it to the author
of them.

Best Regards.

---
Yasuhiro KIMURA

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> Why are you surprised?

Because:

> So I suspect the OP doesn't have a port of GNU Find
> on Path before the Windows program of the same name (which does
> something completely different), or maybe the version of Find or Grep
> the OP has don't support non-ASCII characters encoded in the OP's
> locale's codepage.

There's always stuff like this in Windows-related bug reports.  =F0=9F=98=80

> I wonder whether it could be a good idea to replace the find/grep
> command by something that traverses the files in Lisp, like
> dired-do-search or somesuch?  This would resolve any problems with
> file names and incompatible versions of Find and Grep.

It would be massively slower, though.

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Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@HIDDEN> writes:

>   insert-file-contents("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'")
>   check-declare-scan("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'")
>   check-declare-files("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'" "/usr/bin/find: possible unquoted pattern after predicate `-name'?")
>   apply(check-declare-files ("/usr/bin/find: paths must precede expression: `with-editor.el'" "/usr/bin/find: possible unquoted pattern after predicate `-name'?"))
>   check-declare-directory("~/Work/Emacs/with-editor/lisp/")

[...]

> But when I directly evaluated check-declare-directory from *scratch*
> buffer, I executed emacs from command prompt of Windows. And in this
> case there is neither find.exe nor grep.exe in my PATH directories. So
> check-declare-directory fails differently. And I wrongly reported it
> as the bug of Emacs. Actually if I execute emacs from shell of MSYS2,
> then steps of original bug report mail results in expected behavior.
>
> I don't know why above build error happens. But probably it is bug of
> the elisp applications in question.  So I'll report it to the author
> of them.

There does seem to be an issue in `check-declare-directory' in Emacs
under Windows, though -- find is complaining about syntax errors in the
"find" command we're constructing.

Eli, does `check-declare-directory' work for you on some Lisp directory
on Windows?

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 14:25:10 +0200
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> There does seem to be an issue in `check-declare-directory' in Emacs
> under Windows, though -- find is complaining about syntax errors in the
> "find" command we're constructing.
> 
> Eli, does `check-declare-directory' work for you on some Lisp directory
> on Windows?

Yes, it does.

Yasuhiro Kimura, can you tell where you got your ports of Find and
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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> 
> > Why are you surprised?
> 
> Because:
> 
> > So I suspect the OP doesn't have a port of GNU Find
> > on Path before the Windows program of the same name (which does
> > something completely different), or maybe the version of Find or Grep
> > the OP has don't support non-ASCII characters encoded in the OP's
> > locale's codepage.
> 
> There's always stuff like this in Windows-related bug reports.  😀

There's a difference between expecting problems and being surprised it
can work at all.

> > I wonder whether it could be a good idea to replace the find/grep
> > command by something that traverses the files in Lisp, like
> > dired-do-search or somesuch?  This would resolve any problems with
> > file names and incompatible versions of Find and Grep.
> 
> It would be massively slower, though.

I'm not sure.  How much time does it take for the find/grep command to
finish working on our lisp/ directory on your system?

And this command is not really time-critical anyway.

In any case, we could use the Lisp path only on Windows, since having
a slower command is better than having a broken command.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> I'm not sure.  How much time does it take for the find/grep command to
> finish working on our lisp/ directory on your system?

Let's see...

(benchmark-run (check-declare-directory "~/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/"))

11 seconds.  Perhaps a pure-Lisp solution wouldn't be that much slower,
anyway?

(Hm...  it finds over a 100 in-tree declarations that it says are
malformed/wrong...  Perhaps somebody should have a look at that.)

> And this command is not really time-critical anyway.

That's true.

> In any case, we could use the Lisp path only on Windows, since having
> a slower command is better than having a broken command.

If we have a Lisp solution, I think I'd prefer to use that on all
platforms.  Easier to debug when there only one code path, for one.

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: yasu@HIDDEN,  55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 17:46:50 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > I'm not sure.  How much time does it take for the find/grep command to
> > finish working on our lisp/ directory on your system?
> 
> Let's see...
> 
> (benchmark-run (check-declare-directory "~/src/emacs/trunk/lisp/"))
> 
> 11 seconds.  Perhaps a pure-Lisp solution wouldn't be that much slower,
> anyway?
> 
> (Hm...  it finds over a 100 in-tree declarations that it says are
> malformed/wrong...  Perhaps somebody should have a look at that.)

Yes, please.

> > And this command is not really time-critical anyway.
> 
> That's true.
> 
> > In any case, we could use the Lisp path only on Windows, since having
> > a slower command is better than having a broken command.
> 
> If we have a Lisp solution, I think I'd prefer to use that on all
> platforms.  Easier to debug when there only one code path, for one.

How about the below?  It's 3% to 9% slower than the find/grep version
(because it examines more files, I think), but much simpler (IMNSHO),
and works on any platform without any caveats.

diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/check-declare.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/check-declare.el
index b3c9651..83187ac 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/check-declare.el
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+  (let ((files (directory-files-recursively root "\\.el\\'")))
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> How about the below?  It's 3% to 9% slower than the find/grep version
> (because it examines more files, I think), but much simpler (IMNSHO),
> and works on any platform without any caveats.

[...]

> -  (let ((files (process-lines-ignore-status
> -                find-program root
> -                "-name" "*.el"
> -                "-exec" grep-program
> -                "-l" "^[ \t]*(declare-function" "{}" "+")))
> +  (let ((files (directory-files-recursively root "\\.el\\'")))
>      (when files
>        (apply #'check-declare-files files))))

I'm surprised that it's just 9% slower -- there's 2K files in the Emacs
tree, and only one a quarter of them have a declare-function.  Is
process-lines-ignore-status really slow or something?

But the change looks fine to me in any case.

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: yasu@HIDDEN,  55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 13:40:11 +0200
> 
> > -  (let ((files (process-lines-ignore-status
> > -                find-program root
> > -                "-name" "*.el"
> > -                "-exec" grep-program
> > -                "-l" "^[ \t]*(declare-function" "{}" "+")))
> > +  (let ((files (directory-files-recursively root "\\.el\\'")))
> >      (when files
> >        (apply #'check-declare-files files))))
> 
> I'm surprised that it's just 9% slower -- there's 2K files in the Emacs
> tree, and only one a quarter of them have a declare-function.  Is
> process-lines-ignore-status really slow or something?

I don't know if it's really slow, but it runs Grep on each file, and
that slows down the command it launches.  directory-files-recursively
is much faster, but then check-declare-files has more files to check.

I think the slowdown depends on the system and on the build.  I only
tested in unoptimized builds, and the GNU/Linux system to which I have
access is a relatively slow VM.  So maybe you should time this
yourself before we decide whether the slow-down is acceptable?

Or what kind of slow-down can we endure before we feel uneasy about
the change?

> But the change looks fine to me in any case.

I can install now if you are okay with the above.

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> Cc: yasu@HIDDEN, 55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 12:09:56 +0300
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> 
> > (Hm...  it finds over a 100 in-tree declarations that it says are
> > malformed/wrong...  Perhaps somebody should have a look at that.)
> 
> Yes, please.

I've now fixed many of those.  The ones left are:

  . those from Org -- should be fixed in Org repository
  . references to packages not in core (like BBDB and W3M)
  . stuff that _looks_ like functions, but isn't: compiler-macros,
    constructors, games we play with setf etc. -- this is where
    check-declare "Needs Work"(TM) to be smarter

There are two warnings regarding PGTK which I didn't know what to do
about:

  lisp/frame.el:1996:Warning (check-declare): said ‘pgtk-frame-list-z-order’ was
      defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found

  lisp/term/pgtk-win.el:48:Warning (check-declare): said ‘pgtk-hide-emacs’ was
      defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found

Those functions indeed don't exist, AFAICT, but they _are_ called from
Lisp.  Po Lu, can you please DTRT there?

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>   lisp/frame.el:1996:Warning (check-declare): said =E2=80=98pgtk-frame-li=
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>       defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found
>
>   lisp/term/pgtk-win.el:48:Warning (check-declare): said =E2=80=98pgtk-hi=
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>       defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found
>
> Those functions indeed don't exist, AFAICT, but they _are_ called from
> Lisp.  Po Lu, can you please DTRT there?

Those are copy-paste errors from when the Lisp part of the PGTK port was
first written by blindly copying code from the NS port that doesn't
really apply.  (The original author of the PGTK port is probably the
only person who knows why that happened.)  I will delete them.

Thanks.

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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> Cc: larsi@HIDDEN,  yasu@HIDDEN,  55386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 21:39:49 +0800
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >   lisp/frame.el:1996:Warning (check-declare): said ‘pgtk-frame-list-z-order’ was
> >       defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found
> >
> >   lisp/term/pgtk-win.el:48:Warning (check-declare): said ‘pgtk-hide-emacs’ was
> >       defined in src/pgtkfns.c: function not found
> >
> > Those functions indeed don't exist, AFAICT, but they _are_ called from
> > Lisp.  Po Lu, can you please DTRT there?
> 
> Those are copy-paste errors from when the Lisp part of the PGTK port was
> first written by blindly copying code from the NS port that doesn't
> really apply.  (The original author of the PGTK port is probably the
> only person who knows why that happened.)  I will delete them.

That's what I thought, but couldn't be sure.  Thanks.

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>     check-declare "Needs Work"(TM) to be smarter

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