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Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> skribis: >> Perhaps services should allow specifying the minimum required Shepherd >> version, which Shepherd could ensure is met before attempting to restart >> a service, printing something like: >> >> 'Could not restart service X due to unmet Shepherd version requirement; >> the service will continue unchanged until the next reboot' >> >> or something similar. Yes. The issue is that we=E2=80=99re more free-style than systemd: we=E2= =80=99re basically loading code live in the running Shepherd. So we have to write that code such that it works with older Shepherd versions. This is why we have things like conditions on (defined? 'make-inetd-constructor) and the likes, with a fallback. >> I've re-titled the bug, as this isn't specific to our jami service. > > I've asked in #systemd about what a similar situation would happen in > systemd-land, and here's what I've learned: > > 1. service units aren't reloaded automatically after new versions of > them are installed -- this effectively prevent the breakage seen here > (the jami service was reloaded and restarting manually it caused it to > fail). > > 2. a savvy user can still opt to force the new service to be reloaded > via 'systemctl daemon-reload'. In case the service update depends on > new systemd features, systemd would need to be restarted itself, via > 'systemctl daemon-reexec'. The later command is interesting, but its > documented as a debugging tool [0]: > > daemon-reexec > > Reexecute the systemd manager. This will serialize the manager > state, reexecute the process and deserialize the state again. This > command is of little use except for debugging and package > upgrades. Sometimes, it might be helpful as a heavy-weight > daemon-reload. While the daemon is being reexecuted, all sockets > systemd listening on behalf of user configuration will stay > accessible. > > [0] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html# > > systemd folks told me it is not typically run in systemd package upgrade > hooks, but perhaps some distribution do this (I don't know). > > So the situation is not very different in systemd vs shepherd, except > that we more aggressively load the new service definitions, potentially > leading to breakage. I think any upgrade, be it =E2=80=98guix system reconfigure=E2=80=99 or =E2= =80=98apt dist-upgrade=E2=80=99, is likely to end up loading new service definitions= =E2=80=94Guix System isn=E2=80=99t more aggressive in that respect. The main difference is that our services are code and that they might depend on specific Shepherd APIs. It=E2=80=99s a much more direct dependen= cy compared to .service files I guess. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Subject: Re: bug#55898: jami service failing following 'guix deploy' update
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Hi again,
[...]
> Perhaps services should allow specifying the minimum required Shepherd
> version, which Shepherd could ensure is met before attempting to restart
> a service, printing something like:
>
> 'Could not restart service X due to unmet Shepherd version requirement;
> the service will continue unchanged until the next reboot'
>
> or something similar.
>
> I've re-titled the bug, as this isn't specific to our jami service.
I've asked in #systemd about what a similar situation would happen in
systemd-land, and here's what I've learned:
1. service units aren't reloaded automatically after new versions of
them are installed -- this effectively prevent the breakage seen here
(the jami service was reloaded and restarting manually it caused it to
fail).
2. a savvy user can still opt to force the new service to be reloaded
via 'systemctl daemon-reload'. In case the service update depends on
new systemd features, systemd would need to be restarted itself, via
'systemctl daemon-reexec'. The later command is interesting, but its
documented as a debugging tool [0]:
daemon-reexec
Reexecute the systemd manager. This will serialize the manager
state, reexecute the process and deserialize the state again. This
command is of little use except for debugging and package
upgrades. Sometimes, it might be helpful as a heavy-weight
daemon-reload. While the daemon is being reexecuted, all sockets
systemd listening on behalf of user configuration will stay
accessible.
[0] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html#
systemd folks told me it is not typically run in systemd package upgrade
hooks, but perhaps some distribution do this (I don't know).
So the situation is not very different in systemd vs shepherd, except
that we more aggressively load the new service definitions, potentially
leading to breakage.
Thoughts?
Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#55898; Package guix.
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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#55898: jami service failing following reconfigure
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Hi again,
Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hello Maxime,
>
> Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Maxim Cournoyer schreef op za 11-06-2022 om 01:53 [-0400]:
>>> I don't get it; how can the service runs fine in the instrumented VMs
>>> the system tests use, and fail in my updated machine?=C2=A0 Could it be=
a
>>> fault in 'guix deploy'?
>>
>> Maybe the shepherd has the old (gnu build jami-service) module loaded
>> and it doesn't know know to reload modules during reconfiguration?
I verified that in the
/gnu/store/fyd7rmvzhhqbk1f08c4pl7ahhlfgig40-shepherd-jami.scm file it
was setting up the load path with everything needed, such as
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(eval-when
(expand load eval)
(let
((extensions
(quote
("/gnu/store/f6q4237n62lq7n8z3qyh3jx5iinb9myr-guile-packrat-0.1.1"=
"/gnu/store/l2f9gmd64w56nnhnlb63hg8f5crfvwln-guile-ac-d-bus-1.0.0-beta.0" =
"/gnu/store/is9f6ki7i2f6qk80ivvz7q1vvlibb96l-guile-fibers-1.0.0")))
(prepend
(lambda
(items lst)
(let loop
((items items)
(lst lst))
(if
(null? items)
lst
(loop
(cdr items)
(cons
(car items)
(delete
(car items)
lst))))))))
(set! %load-path
(prepend
(cons "/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import"
(map
(lambda
(extension)
(string-append extension "/share/guile/site/"
(effective-version)))
extensions))
%load-path))
(set! %load-compiled-path
(prepend
(cons "/gnu/store/zqgpayc87lfmcmncgzbp5v59hav8ww1c-module-import=
-compiled"
(map
(lambda
(extension)
(string-append extension "/lib/guile/"
(effective-version)
"/site-ccache"))
extensions))
%load-compiled-path))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The /gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import directory
contains:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ find /gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build/dbus-se=
rvice.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build/file-sy=
stems.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build/jami-se=
rvice.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build/linux-c=
ontainer.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/build/shepher=
d.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/system
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/system/file-s=
ystems.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/gnu/system/uuid.s=
cm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/build
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/build/bourni=
sh.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/build/syscal=
ls.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/build/utils.=
scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/colors.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/i18n.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/profiling.scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/diagnostics.=
scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/memoization.=
scm
/gnu/store/7kgdg6dmgncqirj3k07n02hq6kjyf4an-module-import/guix/records.scm
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
and the referenced [...]/gnu/build/jami-service.scm file does contain
the supposedly missing 'jami-service-available?' procedure.
I'm suspecting that given the service makes use of Shepherd 0.9
features, perhaps it fails loading and the error is reported erroneously
that way... a reboot would tell but I'm not in a position to do that at
this moment (remote machine).
Thanks,
Maxim
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To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#55898: jami service failing following 'guix deploy' update
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retitle 55898 jami service fails to start following reconfigure
thanks
Hello,
Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hello Maxime,
>
> Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Maxim Cournoyer schreef op za 11-06-2022 om 01:53 [-0400]:
>>> I don't get it; how can the service runs fine in the instrumented VMs
>>> the system tests use, and fail in my updated machine?=C2=A0 Could it be=
a
>>> fault in 'guix deploy'?
>>
>> Maybe the shepherd has the old (gnu build jami-service) module loaded
>> and it doesn't know know to reload modules during reconfiguration?
The module seems to be simply missing, according to:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix gc -R /gnu/store/sq7krjjpwbkr3z573flbnvkml1574mn5-system | grep jami
/gnu/store/vkgamffkm92l3xdzid42k4lcz6aqfj7i-ffmpeg-jami-4.4.2
/gnu/store/kk3dzx2xsa135d1i5jsjm8i787gbl56i-pjproject-jami-2.11-0.e1f389d
/gnu/store/fyd7rmvzhhqbk1f08c4pl7ahhlfgig40-shepherd-jami.scm
/gnu/store/kqiqnza4l0jawrs0mszymj8diaa2j97m-shepherd-file-system--home-jenk=
ins-jami.scm
/gnu/store/yp9awyfgiym32card9w5mds8id6d6d0l-shepherd-file-system--home-jenk=
ins-jami-workspace.scm
/gnu/store/xib9gc60a8bbff99cffh2x74gqpszf0i-shepherd-jami-dbus-session.scm
/gnu/store/q00v0f7syc1b6phfq4gih8i9irnm862w-dbus-for-jami-1.12.20
/gnu/store/dqfply51lzqc5z697k98avigsv21qm8q-libjami-20211223.2.37be4c3
/gnu/store/5w1zqbwagkhavqs7xjbzb8m7j978dcwj-shepherd-file-system--var-cache=
-jami.scm
/gnu/store/njrxi4apky4ckb2py9qz0ciz0b92smrd-shepherd-jami.go
/gnu/store/kciz8nady3rc5jd9j67bmlzyn622j5md-shepherd-file-system--home-jenk=
ins-jami.go
/gnu/store/ddxa8yxqh1c3h6iax2x24wj0lfxrx8c6-shepherd-file-system--home-jenk=
ins-jami-workspace.go
/gnu/store/d54hhmd90h7q4qmnb3q6ngsdp9457r80-shepherd-jami-dbus-session.go
/gnu/store/59lizyj4miag5if9ylhk383qr1qbxw1h-shepherd-file-system--var-cache=
-jami.go
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
After a 'guix system reconfigure' that successfully changed
/run/current-system.
I was expecting the module should have been pulled in the closure via
the encapsulating:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(with-extensions (list guile-packrat ;used by guile-ac-d-bus
guile-ac-d-bus
;; Fibers is needed to provide the non-blocking
;; variant of the 'sleep' procedure.
guile-fibers)
(with-imported-modules (source-module-closure
'((gnu build dbus-service)
(gnu build jami-service)
(gnu build shepherd)
(gnu system file-systems)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
in (gnu services telephony) around line 312.
Thoughts?
Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#55898; Package guix.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#55898; Package guix.
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After having fixed the tests of the jami-service-type and pushed the fix as 85b4dabd94d53f8179f31a42046cd83fc3a352fc, I was confident it would work, but my freshly 'guix deploy'ed machine says otherwise: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ sudo herd stop jami $ sudo herd start jami Service jami-dbus-session has been started. herd: exception caught while executing 'start' on service 'jami': Unbound variable: jami-service-available? $ guix system describe Generation 141 Jun 11 2022 01:38:12 (current) file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-141-link canonical file name: /gnu/store/vx9sd4vb2yfv0zhycd461m9wfvgzclsp-system label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.17.14 bootloader: grub-efi root device: label: "btrfs-pool-1" kernel: /gnu/store/zf4062hz23485dp1xr8w6zbk2m8igpsk-linux-libre-5.17.14/bzImage configuration file: /gnu/store/n2wqba6npybjd8i730cpi9qc61p16jkr-configuration.scm --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I don't get it; how can the service runs fine in the instrumented VMs the system tests use, and fail in my updated machine? Could it be a fault in 'guix deploy'? To be investigated... Thanks, Maxim
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