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And considering the definition of system(3) in glibc:
@ sysdeps/posix/system.c (took me way too long to find this; glibc's
source code is a maze ;))
```
#define SHELL_PATH "/bin/sh" /* Path of the shell. */
#define SHELL_NAME "sh" /* Name to give it. */
```
couldn't we just use `-DSHELL_PATH=3D/gnu/store/...`?
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On Thu Jul 21, 2022 at 3:52 PM BST, Maxime Devos wrote:
> * Add a macro '#define system ...' that calls this variant and inserts
> __guix_bin_sh as the shell executable
Would this not violate POSIX? Since, as far as I can see,
<https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/system.html>
does not give the implementation license to implement system(3) as a
macro. We could do
```
int system(const char *command) {
return __guix_run_in_shell(command, __guix_bin_sh);
}
```
though.
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 17-06-2022 07:48, Julien Lepiller
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:2C6CCC4B-BC71-4CA4-9B7B-086C14713DCD@HIDDEN">We
have bash-minimal and bash-static. The latter is a bit bigger than
the former. Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal?
</blockquote>
<p>bash-static is used by glibc (for the 'system' function), it's
not something that can simply be replaced with bash-minimal (due
to the cycle bash-minimal -> glibc -> bash-minimal that
would result). I do have a proposal eliminating the bash-static
reference though:</p>
<ul>
<li>replace the 'system' function from glibc by a variant that
accepts the file name of the shell executable<br>
</li>
<li>Add a macro '#define system ...' that calls this variant and
inserts __guix_bin_sh as the shell executable</li>
<li>In the build system, look for bin/sh in the inputs.=C2=A0 If it=
exists, add -D__guix_bin_sh=3D/gnu/store/.../bin/sh to<br>
CFLAGS or such.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Greetings,<br>
Maxime<br>
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Hi,
Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> skribis:
> I figured out this morning that my guix pull profile ("current") was more=
than 1GB. Looking at the closure, I found a few oddities.
Specifically:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix describe
Generation 219 Jun 20 2022 09:40:20 (current)
guix 73761d8
repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
branch: master
commit: 73761d8049f483e6685c2c736872d0366e03238a
$ guix size $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current)
store item total s=
elf
/gnu/store/rfkyfhdj3zq6lzlw7n0y5m36pdcfd2s7-guix-73761d804-modules 554.6 =
220.8 27.5%
/gnu/store/249mczqf0jv55a7df9v3a3314mrwjg61-guix-packages-base 123.9 =
123.9 15.5%
/gnu/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8 130.0 =
53.0 6.6%
/gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 129.1 =
52.0 6.5%
/gnu/store/jv3gkqapz7fxgpjzp7g6rlpfl3fb2pq9-guix-system 51.2 =
51.2 6.4%
/gnu/store/5h2w4qi9hk1qzzgi1w83220ydslinr4s-glibc-2.33 38.3 =
36.6 4.6%
/gnu/store/cwxfvi0890wwmhigk84iiq1dh64x0ac9-guix-packages-base-source 34=
.2 34.2 4.3%
/gnu/store/094bbaq6glba86h1d4cj16xhdi6fk2jl-gcc-10.3.0-lib 71.7 =
33.4 4.2%
/gnu/store/3db8s5gn3srsdrzrdz4d0xpxpfhlb3h5-guix-extra 25.7 =
25.7 3.2%
/gnu/store/bnsf9il448hl5xjavbhq3rcx355svz2v-glib-2.70.2 98.1 =
15.3 1.9%
/gnu/store/mw3py6smb1pk8yx298hd9ivz9lzbksqi-glibc-utf8-locales-2.33 13.9=
13.9 1.7%
/gnu/store/7nlzk7n90ib3llblxlpz725ym3k05gdj-util-linux-2.37.2-lib 80.7 =
9.0 1.1%
/gnu/store/pyaxxsi4207awhpppqf1br6gl03k47pz-guix-package-cache 6.4 =
6.4 0.8%
/gnu/store/cyx97f0bx4nki07l52jzw3lng0mzcdcv-guix-cli-core 6.4 =
6.4 0.8%
/gnu/store/2rdmiv3k11qxz13fjq5bipljwjz0r6ws-guix-manual 6.0 =
6.0 0.8%
/gnu/store/9rrnm5hdjw7cy96a2a9rfgh6y08wsbmf-ncurses-6.2.20210619 77.6 =
5.9 0.7%
/gnu/store/zl9wf0zwq2ka9rpmayp53hnp2mn460xf-gnutls-3.7.2 143.4 =
5.6 0.7%
/gnu/store/xgp23kc3v9w7l10grjwd0n1a74v3fhx3-openssl-1.1.1n 77.2 =
5.5 0.7%
/gnu/store/il571kvl9fs08xag4hyg6x8hm57akscm-guile-git-0.5.2 100.5 =
5.2 0.6%
/gnu/store/dyd5gaxzrngl6m9clniq5y1r7yl463h1-guix-system-tests 4.3 =
4.3 0.5%
/gnu/store/fg76cjzdk413dfkx50fkcwd3wpbyfpi1-pcre2-10.37 84.6 =
4.0 0.5%
/gnu/store/ffynx7n76vb5rby4b14yjcacqwq1w70h-mit-krb5-1.19.2 82.2 =
3.9 0.5%
/gnu/store/v06gnr579r0jmr36aha3wkbd1y27ccg7-disarchive-0.4.0 139.1 =
3.8 0.5%
/gnu/store/x1jd7pqfn9ilb6x97azcfq1fhjr63p0z-p11-kit-0.23.22 76.4 =
3.4 0.4%
/gnu/store/xmzx5mzv4863yw9kmr2ykndgp37p8if0-sqlite-3.36.0 82.3 =
3.2 0.4%
/gnu/store/x1x1sw727g7ls93av3i27mkd90s4wgd7-guix-home 3.2 =
3.2 0.4%
/gnu/store/jkd4zlfq4rph31xazz132cf0skg6km00-guix-cli 3.1 =
3.1 0.4%
/gnu/store/v8raqm2shh9azkl71107p53j55hir306-libxcb-1.14 75.3 =
3.0 0.4%
/gnu/store/ssfq7hv5bhas830cs29fk271brcn3vqi-guile-lib-0.2.7 2.9 =
2.9 0.4%
/gnu/store/g2ajyl8xk9aarxrgjbng2hkj3qm2v0z2-tar-1.34 75.6 =
2.9 0.4%
/gnu/store/fa43ijbrb96x08621qigxxiphp503lsi-libx11-1.7.3.1 78.2 =
2.8 0.4%
/gnu/store/fwbiihd2sbhai63y1pvvdh0f2bakfzrf-gmp-6.2.1 74.4 =
2.7 0.3%
/gnu/store/yqr33jyy81fdqmr8rd4gvbpisbad2w2l-guix-extra-source 2.5 =
2.5 0.3%
/gnu/store/4rqq5sl8n85ywfwqdv0f1xjaw9vhgl8k-guix-system-source 2.4 =
2.4 0.3%
/gnu/store/hkhbq2q1gfs970gsp2nhsmcqb4vmv2xr-libunistring-0.9.10 74.0 =
2.3 0.3%
/gnu/store/f058zn04xla5jndkhxl0s20pbl61bckq-guile-bytestructures-1.0.10 =
2.1 2.1 0.3%
/gnu/store/n0sd9hghs18pjsj72023r1spa9wxccc2-libevent-2.1.12 73.8 =
2.1 0.3%
/gnu/store/m7vwbbsy3pkpi4rpdnvr8m4jc8y36ckn-libgit2-1.3.0 95.4 =
2.0 0.2%
/gnu/store/xggzgd4xwsy5p02wdfngk67j7zpp91gb-guile-ssh-0.15.1 144.9 =
1.9 0.2%
/gnu/store/03g49nffc73vrmx5180p4fhr3z4mfk0z-avahi-0.8 111.8 =
1.7 0.2%
/gnu/store/r08q5kq8hy5621y3yk0c7zrxb9s514z4-guix-locale-guix 1.7 =
1.7 0.2%
/gnu/store/720rj90bch716isd8z7lcwrnvz28ap4y-bash-static-5.1.8 1.7 =
1.7 0.2%
/gnu/store/di5bqb45hi5lvp2q08hlxqjdcl9phjb1-pcre-8.45 73.4 =
1.7 0.2%
/gnu/store/wcwls45278gzpjvwlvrrs1y7h30g44xh-readline-8.1.1 79.0 =
1.4 0.2%
/gnu/store/3kl94m3ksm45a880b6lnn3kagk857lj9-libgcrypt-1.8.8 75.1 =
1.4 0.2%
/gnu/store/60jl4xry9c93j9l0rr7nkvbw7dihjz4k-guile-gcrypt-0.3.0 76.5 =
1.4 0.2%
/gnu/store/3x3dl71d4xm6y4hjwq110hmfyfx0xc6j-zstd-1.5.0-lib 72.9 =
1.2 0.2%
/gnu/store/2b3blhwbag1ial0dhxw7wh4zjxl0cqpk-pkg-config-0.29.2 72.8 =
1.1 0.1%
/gnu/store/yl859fgb86zgl0zsvbhxdpms945aazip-dbus-1.12.20 79.6 =
1.1 0.1%
/gnu/store/aggsb6j1svxp70xlll4rqnx5f2pzz794-xz-5.2.5 73.7 =
1.1 0.1%
/gnu/store/c8isj4jq6knv0icfgr43di6q3nvdzkx7-xz-5.2.5 73.7 =
1.1 0.1%
[=E2=80=A6]
/gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-command 788.6 =
0.0 0.0%
/gnu/store/hsynjf6csram52x9ampnb90ysdbipdk2-emacs-subdirs 0.0 =
0.0 0.0%
/gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon 789.4 =
0.0 0.0%
total: 802.0 MiB
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
50% goes into Guix modules. There=E2=80=99s prolly room for improvement be=
cause
the =E2=80=98guix-COMMIT-modules=E2=80=99, which is #1, is actually the uni=
on of all the
other guix-*-modules.
> There's gcc in there, which is the second most important contributor afte=
r guix-*-modules (150 MB). It's referenced by gcc-toolchain, itself only re=
ferenced by the guile-wrapper we build in (guix self). Can we get rid of it?
I think you fixed that one in 319b8331b2357e12ec9edb9665513c32bef56622.
\o/
> There are three versions of guile (50 MB each). Can we settle for only on=
e?
I think that=E2=80=99s (@ (gnu packages commencement) guile-final), guile-3=
.0,
and guile-3.0-latest. However I see only two of them here.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix graph --path -t references $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current) /gn=
u/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8
/gnu/store/njzk97pz238fcjjpjk2vzdv5rgs6s54v-profile
/gnu/store/vp1m80lj2g6391xi95f056yra7xfb47i-guix-73761d804
/gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-command
/gnu/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w55g3kr3x4935dfb-guile-3.0.8
$ guix graph --path -t references $(readlink -f ~/.config/guix/current) /gn=
u/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7
/gnu/store/njzk97pz238fcjjpjk2vzdv5rgs6s54v-profile
/gnu/store/vp1m80lj2g6391xi95f056yra7xfb47i-guix-73761d804
/gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon
/gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7
$ head -3 /gnu/store/yyqqi3kp61r9sjqhhay85in0h5s8dzs8-guix-daemon
#!/gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7/bin/guile --no-au=
to-compile
!#
(begin (setenv "GUIX" "/gnu/store/vjf3hvajws01wmm5rwbkgw7z0jvl6v3h-guix-com=
mand") (unless (getenv "GUIX_STATE_DIRECTORY") (setenv "GUIX_STATE_DIRECTOR=
Y" "/var/guix")) (unless (getenv "GUIX_CONFIGURATION_DIRECTORY") (setenv "G=
UIX_CONFIGURATION_DIRECTORY" "/etc/guix")) (unless (getenv "NIX_STORE_DIR")=
(setenv "NIX_STORE_DIR" "/gnu/store")) (apply execl "/gnu/store/jmqzsqpgnx=
rvzpdyx4dglvz9f40b81xm-guix-daemon-1.3.0-27.598f728/bin/guix-daemon" "guix-=
daemon" (cdr (command-line))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Fixed this one in commit d418031a8cbdea4e2bc5c52ea1b29ad369579bae.
But then, =E2=80=98guile-3.0=E2=80=99 being the default, it=E2=80=99s used =
in a number of
places, like:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix graph -t references --path /gnu/store/6f58rzr1xi8h43l6l8gsm4paravqnn=
jz-guix-20220626.13 /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7
/gnu/store/6f58rzr1xi8h43l6l8gsm4paravqnnjz-guix-20220626.13
/gnu/store/00kkky8qxa73qv8g8y60y5gjz0l4hpmk-guix-command
/gnu/store/m3pdqa0crnvblllvkdjbda42k0rwxn9c-guix-module-union
/gnu/store/v06gnr579r0jmr36aha3wkbd1y27ccg7-disarchive-0.4.0
/gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I can=E2=80=99t think of a good solution to this.
> Then maybe less important because they're small:
>
> There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, libgc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and=
libunistring.
>
> We have bash-minimal and bash-static. The latter is a bit bigger than the=
former. Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal?
That=E2=80=99s probably due to the fact that there are multiple Guile varia=
nts;
annoying.
It=E2=80=99s worth keeping in mind that thanks to deduplication, this costs=
much
less than it seems in terms of disk space, but it does cost in terms of
bandwidth usage.
Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#56030; Package guix.
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Hi Guix!
I figured out this morning that my guix pull profile ("current") was more =
than 1GB=2E Looking at the closure, I found a few oddities=2E
There's gcc in there, which is the second most important contributor after=
guix-*-modules (150 MB)=2E It's referenced by gcc-toolchain, itself only r=
eferenced by the guile-wrapper we build in (guix self)=2E Can we get rid of=
it?
There are three versions of guile (50 MB each)=2E Can we settle for only o=
ne?
Then maybe less important because they're small:
There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, libgc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and =
libunistring=2E
We have bash-minimal and bash-static=2E The latter is a bit bigger than th=
e former=2E Maybe we can keep only bash-minimal?
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><body>Hi Guix!<br><br>I figured out this morning that =
my guix pull profile ("current") was more than 1GB=2E Looking at the closur=
e, I found a few oddities=2E<br><br>There's gcc in there, which is the seco=
nd most important contributor after guix-*-modules (150 MB)=2E It's referen=
ced by gcc-toolchain, itself only referenced by the guile-wrapper we build =
in (guix self)=2E Can we get rid of it?<br><br>There are three versions of =
guile (50 MB each)=2E Can we settle for only one?<br><br>Then maybe less im=
portant because they're small:<br><br>There are two libffi, gzip, zlib, lib=
gc, bash-minimal, xz, pkg-config and libunistring=2E<br><br>We have bash-mi=
nimal and bash-static=2E The latter is a bit bigger than the former=2E Mayb=
e we can keep only bash-minimal?</body></html>
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Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>:bug-guix@HIDDEN.
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