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Subject: bug#56320: 'guix system' failure due to substitute being temporarily 404 -> Implement a retry attempts?
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merge 56319 56320
thanks

Am Donnerstag, dem 30.06.2022 um 08:19 +0000 schrieb Jacob Hrbek:
> Seems that the substitute server went down just as i was doing `guix 
> system reconfigure /path/to/config.scm` which produced a failure thus
> proposing to implement a retry attempts to make this process more 
> reliable in mission critical environment
While retrying and potentially falling back to local builds would be
nice improvements to user experience, I seriously hope your mission-
critical software does not assume reliability of anything network-
related.  As a matter of fact, Guix already provides the only guarantee
any system can have under this circumstance: that your device won't be
bricked when failing to download something from the internet.

Cheers

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merge 56319 56320
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Am Donnerstag, dem 30.06.2022 um 08:19 +0000 schrieb Jacob Hrbek:
> Seems that the substitute server went down just as i was doing `guix 
> system reconfigure /path/to/config.scm` which produced a failure thus
> proposing to implement a retry attempts to make this process more 
> reliable in mission critical environment
While retrying and potentially falling back to local builds would be
nice improvements to user experience, I seriously hope your mission-
critical software does not assume reliability of anything network-
related.  As a matter of fact, Guix already provides the only guarantee
any system can have under this circumstance: that your device won't be
bricked when failing to download something from the internet.

Cheers

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merge 56005 56320 56319=0A=
thanks=0A=
=0A=
This doesn't look Guix System-specific to me and looks to have the same iss=
ue (i.e., something about write_wait_fd) as=0A=
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56005>, so merging into 56005.=0A=
=0A=
Also, is the substitute server being down a hypothesis for the error but no=
t actually known to actually have hapend, or something you have noticed the=
 substitute server being down via other methods and believe it to be a plau=
sible hypothesis for the error cause?=0A=
=0A=
In all cases, I believe write_wait_fd: unimplemented to be a bug that needs=
 to be investigated for the root cause and fixed, not something to accumula=
te work-arounds for and ignore by automatic retries.=0A=
=0A=
Greetings,=0A=
Maxime.=0A=
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