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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 5a1e8c13-54cf-4eef-a428-08da5dd57df4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Jul 2022 15:54:34.8792 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: AOmqeS8vSq6oKWbFuhRtKGYwm9JCaycDfqkk4bYcjCCJ7sjNIY/vdB6n+u2ADm3oHL7/yeBxi0jnkRvE0gkyyg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BL3PR10MB6138 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.517, 18.0.883 definitions=2022-07-04_16:2022-06-28, 2022-07-04 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2204290000 definitions=main-2207040069 X-Proofpoint-GUID: j6417P80kyvM8ZFh3_Nl5_1415SvOGVY X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: j6417P80kyvM8ZFh3_Nl5_1415SvOGVY X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56357 Cc: "56357 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <56357 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > > Suppose a user uses a 13 pt font size. Let there be some space > > between the longest line in the buffer and the edge of the window. > > It would be super if the font size could be automatically increased, > > such that the difference between the longest line and the window=20 > > size in minimised. >=20 > I think that sounds like a useful feature, and I'm kinda surprised that > it doesn't exist yet. Or does it? Anybody know? >=20 > To implement this, I guess the obvious thing would be to have a global > minor mode that'd listen to frame size changes, and then adjust the > font size up/down to reach the desired number of characters in a frame? > So we'd have a user option font-size-adjust-target (defaulting to 80) > and a font-size-adjust-mode? Not sure, but I have a feeling this feature might be related to what you're thinking about / looking for. It doesn't sound like it's exactly what this report has requested. But it sounds like it's related and it might even address the underlying need/problem. My library `face-remap+.el' introduces option `text-scale-resize-window', which automatically resizes the selected window (horizontally, vertically, or both) when text is resized. This means that when you resize text the way the window fits the text remains relatively constant. Shrinking the text in one window shrinks that window, giving more space to adjacent windows. IOW, it keeps whatever relation currently exists between the apparent text size and the window size. That also means that it lets you take advantage of the space freed up by resizing (text-scaling) to a smaller font. I offered this feature to Emacs dev _long_ ago (as soon as text-scaling was added to Emacs). It was summarily rejected, with a no-one-would-ever-want-to-do-that dismissal. But personally, I wouldn't use text scaling without such a feature. I see, and saw, no reason not to give users the choice, as opposed to hard-coding the behavior so as to always waste screen real estate with added blank space when text is shrunk. The code is trivial - a tweak to `text-scale-increase' to respect the new user option. The code is here: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/face-remap%2b.el
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#56357; Package emacs.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > With your proposal, how would you determine the target value? If it's > just an arbitrary value (80 sounds like an arbitrary one to me), then > the recently-added global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-fr [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56357 Cc: carlmarcos@HIDDEN, 56357 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > With your proposal, how would you determine the target value? If it's > just an arbitrary value (80 sounds like an arbitrary one to me), then > the recently-added global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames variable > does the same, just from the other end: the user enlarges the font and > the frame follows suit. And since our default frame width is already > set for 80 characters, it sounds like we already have the feature you > envisioned, no? I think the user wants to be able to drag a frame to be bigger and get the font to be resized to have the same number of columns, so it's not the same feature at all. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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<div><br></div><div>I am basically an old fart who cannot read small fonts anymore. Could you think of a way to automatically maximise the font size. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Suppose a user uses a 13 pt font size. Let there be some space between the longest line in the buffer and the edge of the window. It would be super if the font size could be automatically increased, such that the difference between the longest line and the window size in minimised.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many thanks for reading this.<br></div> </body>
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