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It would be useful if we could get hyperlinks to Info manuals on the
`describe-package' screen, just like we can in `describe-variable'.




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Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes:

> It would be useful if we could get hyperlinks to Info manuals on the
> `describe-package' screen, just like we can in `describe-variable'.

Do you mean the `(manual)Node Name' links?  If so, do you have an
example of a package with such a link?

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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:

> Do you mean the `(manual)Node Name' links?

Yes.

> If so, do you have an example of a package with such a link?

No, but I wanted to add it to ERT just today.  (But didn't because it
doesn't link.)

However, thinking a bit more about this, perhaps we should just make
it easier to link to the Info manual up at the top?  I.e. where it
currently says:

     Status: Installed in =E2=80=98xr-1.22/=E2=80=99. Delete
    Version: 1.22

One question is what to do if the package/manual is not installed.  I
guess we could just show it without a link in such cases.




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>> Do you mean the `(manual)Node Name' links?
>
> Yes.
>
>> If so, do you have an example of a package with such a link?
>
> No, but I wanted to add it to ERT just today.  (But didn't because it
> doesn't link.)

If you add it the link, I can add code to recognise it.  =F0=9F=98=80

> However, thinking a bit more about this, perhaps we should just make
> it easier to link to the Info manual up at the top?  I.e. where it
> currently says:
>
>      Status: Installed in =E2=80=98xr-1.22/=E2=80=99. Delete
>     Version: 1.22
>
> One question is what to do if the package/manual is not installed.  I
> guess we could just show it without a link in such cases.

Yes, that'd also be nice.

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Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes:

>> If you add it the link, I can add code to recognise it.  =F0=9F=98=80
>
> Now added (to ert.el)!

You have

Info manual `(ert) Top'

in the doc, but the magical phrase is "info node", according to
`help-xref-info-regexp'.  We could add "manual" as an alternative...

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But this reminds me -- why are we so strict about the Info links,
anyway?  Could `(foo) Bar' in a doc string be anything but a manual
reference?

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>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:22:56 +0530, Visuwesh <visuweshm@HIDDEN> sa=
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    Visuwesh> [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=
=8D =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 11, 2022] Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
    >> But this reminds me -- why are we so strict about the Info links,
    >> anyway?  Could `(foo) Bar' in a doc string be anything but a manual
    >> reference?

    Visuwesh> Perhaps, the same could be said for man pages as well.
    Visuwesh> `man-page(section)' is probably refers to a manpage.  If we w=
ant to
    Visuwesh> avoid a lot of false positives, then we can restrict section =
to be
    Visuwesh> numeric I think?

Not all man page sections are numeric

Robert
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[=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=9C=
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>     Visuwesh> Perhaps, the same could be said for man pages as well.
>     Visuwesh> `man-page(section)' is probably refers to a manpage.  If we=
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>     Visuwesh> avoid a lot of false positives, then we can restrict sectio=
n to be
>     Visuwesh> numeric I think?
>
> Not all man page sections are numeric

Indeed, that's why I said "avoid a lot of false positives."  But IME,
the only non-numeric sections I came across were the Perl ones.




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>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:32:11 +0530, Visuwesh <visuweshm@HIDDEN> sa=
id:

    Visuwesh> [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=
=8D =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 11, 2022] Robert Pluim wrote:
    Visuwesh> Perhaps, the same could be said for man pages as well.
    Visuwesh> `man-page(section)' is probably refers to a manpage.  If we w=
ant to
    Visuwesh> avoid a lot of false positives, then we can restrict section =
to be
    Visuwesh> numeric I think?
    >>=20
    >> Not all man page sections are numeric

    Visuwesh> Indeed, that's why I said "avoid a lot of false positives."  =
But IME,
    Visuwesh> the only non-numeric sections I came across were the Perl one=
s.

But if you restrict to only numeric, you=CA=BCd miss those, along with n,
l, and the various 3foo sections. I=CA=BCll admit they=CA=BCre not common.

Robert
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