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Content preview: If anything, you also need to chainload to boot on haiku,
which is free software. So no reason not to implement it. Le 16 juillet 2022
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If anything, you also need to chainload to boot on haiku, which is free sof=
tware=2E So no reason not to implement it=2E
Le 16 juillet 2022 11:59:29 GMT+02:00, Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret=2Exyz>=
a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>Hello both of you,
>
>Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu> writes:
>> Of course this is only a workaround I'm proposing, we should fix the in=
staller to detect other OSs=2E
>Just adding that we don't have any Guix bootloader entry field to
>chainload into another bootloader, needed for some non-free system :)
>this would need to be added as well=2E
>
>I personally don't mind, and use my UEFI boot menu instead if I want to
>boot into said non-free OS=2E
>
>Best,
>--=20
>Josselin Poiret
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Hello both of you,
Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> writes:
> Of course this is only a workaround I'm proposing, we should fix the installer to detect other OSs.
Just adding that we don't have any Guix bootloader entry field to
chainload into another bootloader, needed for some non-free system :)
this would need to be added as well.
I personally don't mind, and use my UEFI boot menu instead if I want to
boot into said non-free OS.
Best,
--
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Le 15 juillet 2022 22:10:46 GMT+02:00, Peter <sunspark@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3= =A9crit=C2=A0: >Hi, > >This is a particularly AWFUL user experience bug=2E Installing GUIX to a >partition only lists GUIX in the grub boot menu afterward despite the >existence of other bootable OSes on the drive=2E > >Ok fine thinks I, I will just need to manually run grub's mkconfig to for= ce >re-detection=2E But this command does not exist in GUIX=2E Installing gru= b did >not create grub2-mkconfig=2E Installing osprober wasn't helpful=2E > >I did not see documentation on how to make GUIX detect and add other >operating systems to the boot menu from userland=2E After much time waste= d, I >needed to download another distro, install it so it would repair the boot >menu, and then be able to boot into my main partition=2E > >Recommendation: >Installer needs to detect and add to the menu the other OSes=2E >Documentation needs to show how to do it manually via a different method = if >GUIX does not include grub2-mkconfig otherwise it needs to warn upfront >that this distro should not be used on multi-boot PCs=2E > >Best, >Peter ------9LJLFT9UNE81DIKK41AXE0IJEMQALZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body>Hi Peter,<br><br>This is indeed not nice=2E Guix d= oes not provide a useful package that would reinstall boot configuratipn be= cause boot configuration is managed together with the rest of the system co= nfiguration=2E<br><br>You need to update your /etc/config=2Escm to declare = more entries, and reconfigure=2E Here are the relevant chapters in the manu= al:<br><br><a href=3D"https://guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/manual/devel/en/html_node/Bo= otloader-Configuration=2Ehtml">https://guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/manual/devel/en/htm= l_node/Bootloader-Configuration=2Ehtml</a> (in particular, see menu-entry)<= br><br><a href=3D"https://guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/manual/devel/en/html_node/Invoki= ng-guix-system=2Ehtml">https://guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/manual/devel/en/html_node/I= nvoking-guix-system=2Ehtml</a> (see reconfigure)<br><br>Of course this is o= nly a workaround I'm proposing, we should fix the installer to detect other= OSs=2E<br><br>HTH!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Le 15 juillet 2022 22= :10:46 GMT+02:00, Peter <sunspark@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>This is a parti= cularly AWFUL user experience bug=2E Installing GUIX to a partition only li= sts GUIX in the grub boot menu afterward despite the existence of other boo= table OSes on the drive=2E<br><br></div>Ok fine thinks I, I will just need = to manually run grub's mkconfig to force re-detection=2E But this command d= oes not exist in GUIX=2E Installing grub did not create grub2-mkconfig=2E I= nstalling osprober wasn't helpful=2E <br><br></div>I did not see documentat= ion on how to make GUIX detect and add other operating systems to the boot = menu from userland=2E After much time wasted, I needed to download another = distro, install it so it would repair the boot menu, and then be able to bo= ot into my main partition=2E<br><br></div><div>Recommendation:<br></div><di= v>Installer needs to detect and add to the menu the other OSes=2E<br></div>= <div>Documentation needs to show how to do it manually via a different meth= od if GUIX does not include grub2-mkconfig otherwise it needs to warn upfro= nt that this distro should not be used on multi-boot PCs=2E<br><br></div>Be= st,<br></div>Peter<br><br></div> </blockquote></div></body></html> ------9LJLFT9UNE81DIKK41AXE0IJEMQALZ--
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Installing GUIX to a partition only lists GUIX in the grub boot menu afterward despite the existence of other bootable OSes on the drive. Ok fine thinks I, I will just need to manually run grub's mkconfig to force re-detection. But this command does not exist in GUIX. Installing grub did not create grub2-mkconfig. Installing osprober wasn't helpful. I did not see documentation on how to make GUIX detect and add other operating systems to the boot menu from userland. After much time wasted, I needed to download another distro, install it so it would repair the boot menu, and then be able to boot into my main partition. Recommendation: Installer needs to detect and add to the menu the other OSes. Documentation needs to show how to do it manually via a different method if GUIX does not include grub2-mkconfig otherwise it needs to warn upfront that this distro should not be used on multi-boot PCs. Best, Peter --000000000000c7d1e205e3dd9d99 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>This is a partic= ularly AWFUL user experience bug. Installing GUIX to a partition only lists= GUIX in the grub boot menu afterward despite the existence of other bootab= le OSes on the drive.<br><br></div>Ok fine thinks I, I will just need to ma= nually run grub's mkconfig to force re-detection. But this command does= not exist in GUIX. Installing grub did not create grub2-mkconfig. Installi= ng osprober wasn't helpful. <br><br></div>I did not see documentation o= n how to make GUIX detect and add other operating systems to the boot menu = from userland. After much time wasted, I needed to download another distro,= install it so it would repair the boot menu, and then be able to boot into= my main partition.<br><br></div><div>Recommendation:<br></div><div>Install= er needs to detect and add to the menu the other OSes.<br></div><div>Docume= ntation needs to show how to do it manually via a different method if GUIX = does not include grub2-mkconfig otherwise it needs to warn upfront that thi= s distro should not be used on multi-boot PCs.<br><br></div>Best,<br></div>= Peter<br><br></div> --000000000000c7d1e205e3dd9d99--
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