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Am 23.07.22 um 18:11 schrieb Vinicius Monego: >> I'd suggest keeping Tryton at 6.0 to retain compatibility with GNU >> Health, which tracks only the LTS versions of Tryton (minor versions >> at >> 0). > To clarify a little further, GNU Health [1] (to keep it short, it is a > set of health-related tryton modules) is not yet packaged in Guix. I > did attempt to package it but got stuck in test errors in the check > phase. In general Guix is a rolling release distribution. Thus IMHO tryton should be updated. Anyhow I understand that we need a LTS variant for GNU Health and other conservative users. We could create a „tryton-lts.scm“ which holds the LTS versions, inherited from the current release. Creating such a file is expected be to not much of a problem. WDYT? > The Tryton release process is explained in [2]. Normal releases have > one year of support, while LTS releases have 5 years. Tryton has a huge > package ecosystem and is mostly used in enterprise where LTS is more > important. Tracking non-LTS releases would mean huge and breaking > upgrades at least every year. Also 6.2 will be EOL in 3 months [2]. > > [1]https://www.gnuhealth.org/ > > [2]https://discuss.tryton.org/t/release-process/395 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel |h.goebel@HIDDEN | |www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | --------------jpYG07yfpIyJ8JSj0HTq0E5z Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Follow-up to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56706">https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56706</a> „gnu: Tryton application and framework: Update to 6.2.x.“.<br> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.07.22 um 18:11 schrieb Vinicius Monego:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:cd27b3ea0479062fb93d8955afba1797d43a189c.camel@HIDDEN"> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I'd suggest keeping Tryton at 6.0 to retain compatibility with GNU Health, which tracks only the LTS versions of Tryton (minor versions at 0). </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">To clarify a little further, GNU Health [1] (to keep it short, it is a set of health-related tryton modules) is not yet packaged in Guix. I did attempt to package it but got stuck in test errors in the check phase. </pre> </blockquote> <p>In general Guix is a rolling release distribution. Thus IMHO tryton should be updated.</p> <p>Anyhow I understand that we need a LTS variant for GNU Health and other conservative users. We could create a „tryton-lts.scm“ which holds the LTS versions, inherited from the current release. Creating such a file is expected be to not much of a problem.</p> <p>WDYT?<br> </p> <p><br> </p> <p> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The Tryton release process is explained in [2]. Normal releases have one year of support, while LTS releases have 5 years. Tryton has a huge package ecosystem and is mostly used in enterprise where LTS is more important. Tracking non-LTS releases would mean huge and breaking upgrades at least every year. Also 6.2 will be EOL in 3 months [2]. [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnuhealth.org/">https://www.gnuhealth.org/</a> [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://discuss.tryton.org/t/release-process/395">https://discuss.tryton.org/t/release-process/395</a></pre> </blockquote> <br> </p> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:h.goebel@HIDDEN">h.goebel@HIDDEN</a> | | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.crazy-compilers.com">www.crazy-compilers.com</a> | compilers which you thought are impossible | </pre> </body> </html> --------------jpYG07yfpIyJ8JSj0HTq0E5z--
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