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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c23ae9a5527043750e6ba4a709571d59; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:20:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu6yk9bn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k07uyad6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7x6k84h.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k07uwv3e.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 22:20:26 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87k07uwv3e.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:09:25 +0200") Message-ID: <8735eik7h1.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20447 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 800 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > >> The Xft build doesn't support color Emoji (but I don't like them in the >> first place, so I've deleted the color Emoji fonts from my system), so >> they are being displayed by the same Symbola font. > > Yes. See bug#56691. Thanks, I tried to say something relevant there. But IMHO the cause of this problem is defaulting to the use of Emoji instead of proper images as a substitute for buttons. Not only does this cause problems if the user has an unexpected set of fonts installed, compounded by how font rendering infrastructure has never been designed for displaying buttons, it makes Emacs look very unprofessionally made. I cannot think of a single other GUI program that uses Emoji to replace buttons.
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Full text available.Received: (at 56823) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2022 14:09:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 10:09:35 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHn9r-0005EX-DG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 10:09:35 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHn9p-0005EI-UD for 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 10:09:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Lh5IlNLRe8OuEM4O+Ev58pXk2W5QX2heYjVVAgL3FEI=; b=E8fDnWiy87zm2p0Dw0mo45u+cT Wr8nmdCT4Z7qz2K0p18KlWk500b4jDJrlQZ1dd7hDEXZhQTKzFntlWH2jLYQrik51stbqw1KTdNVZ w/Fww1X+N2T66TTdsIuljE4P/e5hspiIuCjCWD9cq7V98II2yMBNv36g4jjMbvD2pQCk=; Received: from 109.179.63.221.tmi.telenormobil.no ([109.179.63.221] helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHn9i-0001SX-6z; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:09:28 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS In-Reply-To: <87o7x6k84h.fsf@HIDDEN> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 30 Jul 2022 22:06:22 +0800") References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu6yk9bn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k07uyad6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7x6k84h.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87k07uwv3e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > The Xft build doesn't support color Emoji (but I don't like them in the > first place, so I've deleted the color Emoji fonts from my system), so > they are being displayed by the same Symbola font. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > The Xft build doesn't support color Emoji (but I don't like them in the > first place, so I've deleted the color Emoji fonts from my system), so > they are being displayed by the same Symbola font. Yes. See bug#56691.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a6f9319d2646186e5f184fd3d29453ea; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:06:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu6yk9bn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k07uyad6.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 22:06:22 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87k07uyad6.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Jul 2022 15:54:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87o7x6k84h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20447 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 485 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Sure. Here's a screenshot of both kinds of buttons inside "C-h b". > > Oh, the problem you're seeing isn't that the `symbol' items are > displayed with different sizes -- it's the faulty emoji detection The Xft build doesn't support color Emoji (but I don't like them in the first place, so I've deleted the color Emoji fonts from my system), so they are being displayed by the same Symbola font.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 733e466ed99e9f94b969ae49c9581a42; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 13:40:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 21:40:28 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:58:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87tu6yk9bn.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20491 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 2753 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Do you have a screenshot of the situation? Sure. 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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#56823; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 56823) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2022 13:37:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 09:37:22 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHmeg-0001rW-FK for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 09:37:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHmee-0001rI-3r for 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 09:37:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=BdR5H8bqPvMQ2jKwFyTUSkgf+8f262kHFn2bfmeTt7U=; b=NxkNyJKULnGY+YWt6YCKhlOtBv YT3etA9jSR4aJtv6+grpkpVEMhjmAZLUA8XGrv2AvTVK6tZ2AwvnQk53/IorhD68yGS0j8+jNyTxk KLsX+v/f7NcLUHGb6vGyTUdcXiLe0sbuuq7DuE772mzgVBf5NdKPF7OOKAm0pnEECGqw=; Received: from 109.179.63.221.tmi.telenormobil.no ([109.179.63.221] helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHmeV-0001BH-MO; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 15:37:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS In-Reply-To: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:59:57 +0800") References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 15:37:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfmiyb5l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: But I see that the `symbol' entries in the buttons in outline-mode were from different sections of the Unicode standard, so I've now chosen two that are more related, which should help. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) But I see that the `symbol' entries in the buttons in outline-mode were from different sections of the Unicode standard, so I've now chosen two that are more related, which should help.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#56823; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 56823) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2022 13:15:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 09:15:19 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHmJL-0000CL-H4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 09:15:19 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHmJJ-0008EN-Sp for 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 09:15:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rE3jaBsFBLuXDJ/cY8aA3XQVzlViOflsQLdzA0nxlCA=; b=ZrGF+qHyRaqpWlO1+GAH+UQC/p vpKon/EJcHD/0DF7R8je/nr4+zHY5j/nvN1kjle+JGyJRSahBvUDZkHTkEcyFsa0G4ZCX+zbc3Yst s6MVjWScfOUWWrCeqW/da2oAf96bD2jORai3CZNT1I1Ksz/Zk9JJHwJYOjVsfvSyqUS4=; Received: from 109.179.63.221.tmi.telenormobil.no ([109.179.63.221] helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHmJA-00014E-VG; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 15:15:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS In-Reply-To: <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:58:42 +0200") References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 15:15:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnbuyc6b.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: In any case, I think I'm going to rework how the buttons are selected slightly. It should really check all the buttons in the same :group whether they can be displayed, so that we don't end up with a [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) In any case, I think I'm going to rework how the buttons are selected slightly. It should really check all the buttons in the same :group whether they can be displayed, so that we don't end up with a symbol for one button and text for a different button. I.e., degrade for the entire :group at once. At the same time, I'm wondering whether it'd make sense to examine whether we get the same font for all the items in the same :group, because mixing fonts for this sort of this is seldom pretty. It will have performance impacts, so perhaps some caching of the results is also in order... I'll get tinkering (but probably not this weekend).
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#56823; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 56823) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2022 12:58:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 08:58:53 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHm3R-0004wf-GK for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:58:53 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53250) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHm3P-0004wR-Sm for 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:58:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=OlrdlMarHgPV3iZjJG3PqzSbpA5XoHo/zHrGySesfF4=; b=gpR7jEQpdIHHjKDOAQ4O3St1aN pj0FG0lq5a2FGhEWF3u9s8FqTlvIwxgvq464g+9RVe4pyPlnZTV6E0s1mdMGZV/qTLNaQMgAtv4GM YVOTd/lNJpy282sLvYHrcfINWyvuw0iP9/x0Yh3vsOBjFDaFTJ5xfOrOKLRcICMkHKg0=; Received: from 109.179.63.221.tmi.telenormobil.no ([109.179.63.221] helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oHm3H-0000vH-Ph; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:58:45 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS In-Reply-To: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:59:57 +0800") References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 14:58:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87edy2zri5.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > Type C-h n RET to view NEWS, and then click on one of the buttons. > The big right arrow icon will be replaced by a smaller down arrow. Do you have a screenshot of the situation? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes: > Type C-h n RET to view NEWS, and then click on one of the buttons. > The big right arrow icon will be replaced by a smaller down arrow. Do you have a screenshot of the situation? > Both arrows are being displayed with the Symbola font. It sounds like our font selection code is wonky if it displays two glyphs from the same font with different sizes. What does `M-x describe-char' on the two glyphs say?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#56823; Package emacs.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d684596da4553fb9bf15a04b48eda8af; Sat, 30 Jul 2022 00:57:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r1246nvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r124m3cg.fsf@HIDDEN> <83lesc6mra.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:57:02 +0800 In-Reply-To: <83lesc6mra.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2022 17:01:45 +0300") Message-ID: <87mtcrmn8h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20491 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 330 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > OK. So we should perhaps use :align-to display property to align the > text that follows the symbol. That still makes the individual buttons look wrong, since the first is solid (in Symbola) while the second is hollow. So I really think using an image by default is the better solution.
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Full text available.Received: (at 56823) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2022 14:02:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 29 10:02:13 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHQZB-0007N9-5Z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:02:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1oHQZ9-0007Mr-D3 for 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:02:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1oHQYs-0008Rr-AQ; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:02:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ebtTVP100YfKeRHwEsF+HzVIGVg6cMl0m4tv1G3khBA=; b=ln0TlhHpyPLW dIqd5neoF7tIhjmcjjXUJ/mY2yGZiwpGjGGjmHsp8diC4Ypxy0PtloyxfemUIkx86C6wL5qJ9LY8b Dzg/0QW+CK6ZlZSEY+0jhVi0C89tDn9OqHWV7QFvLQQVhZF4u23vmP0uY7ea0qenJOuBhH4dzWfox ao5S+t/emTBMWljQkqLXEoNajMPJZgFy2rnrV5ekIMruJREos6sC2M4ojCAY1iCnM4bWkiT67ZoaG 1XXC+y7Rvs+F+E6MduSE5MJ05Fe7+7iX96MKqBJMlI+hRr51rmFQar9A39XDfmOWistRA7SRv7vkX sb7btTUBJRrnqNsPZgfJMg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2418 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1oHQYW-0005pL-Ny; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:01:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 17:01:45 +0300 Message-Id: <83lesc6mra.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87r124m3cg.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 29 Jul 2022 21:54:23 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#56823: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r1246nvc.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r124m3cg.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 56823 Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: 56823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 21:54:23 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:59:57 +0800 > >> From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > >> > >> > >> Type C-h n RET to view NEWS, and then click on one of the buttons. > > > > When I do "C-h n" in the current master, I see no buttons at all. Do > > I need to do anything else to see the issue you are describing? > > Sorry, Lars seems to have just changed the behavior. Try the buttons in > "C-h b" instead. OK. So we should perhaps use :align-to display property to align the text that follows the symbol.
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Do > I need to do anything else to see the issue you are describing? Sorry, Lars seems to have just changed the behavior. Try the buttons in "C-h b" instead.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5310d5ab1b23c7e1a6b3664498b6f4ef; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:00:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 29.0.50; Inconsistent button size in NEWS Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:59:57 +0800 Message-ID: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain References: <87v8rgm5v6.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20447 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 3470 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.83; envelope-from=luangruo@HIDDEN; helo=sonic306-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) Type C-h n RET to view NEWS, and then click on one of the buttons. The big right arrow icon will be replaced by a smaller down arrow. Both arrows are being displayed with the Symbola font. It seems wrong and unprofessional to place the size of our buttons at the mercy of the user's symbol font. I suggest making the default the XPM arrows used in Custom instead. In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 88, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) of 2022-07-29 built on trinity Repository revision: 02b180e955ab0923b5fe2b8f362f1fedb092f760 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12014000 System Description: Fedora Linux 36 (Workstation Edition) Configured using: 'configure --with-x --with-x-toolkit=no --with-dumping=unexec --cache-file=/tmp/ccache --without-cairo' Configured features: ACL DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY OLDXMENU PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF UNEXEC WEBP X11 XDBE XFT XIM XINPUT2 XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: NEWS Minor modes in effect: outline-minor-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t button-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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