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28.1; Codes generated from focus events being sent to buffers.

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Package: emacs; Reported by: "M. Page-Lieberman" <mateus.justino@HIDDEN>; Keywords: confirmed; merged with #45834; dated Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:02:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Forcibly Merged 45834 56854. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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miha@HIDDEN writes:

>> I thought there was another bug report open about this, but I can't find
>> it now.
>
> bug#45834 perhaps?

Yes; thanks.  I've now merged the reports.




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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:

> I thought there was another bug report open about this, but I can't find
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bug#45834 perhaps?

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Well, if there's another bug report about it, then that leaves me hopeful,
and I'd like to peer into the discussion, as I searched and tried to find
any knowledge of this online before submitting the issue but struck out.

The fact that this seems to be universal behavior and so easy to reproduce
- yet also only found so far in the minibuffer through one key chord -
suggests that it might be easy to hunt down and fix, but at the same time,
is more so of a very low priority curiosity than an operationally
deleterious bug.

Attached in a screenshot, however, is why I find the issue troubling. When
in LFE (Lisp Flavored Erlang) major mode, I cannot task switch back and
forth without inserting a sequence of nested [O] [I] pairs into LFE code,
which in turn have to constantly be deleted.

I know there's an error that is reported when lfe-mode starts up, which
might wind up allowing this to happen somehow, but my sense is that it's
better to try to determine what glitch is shared between an lfe-mode main
buffer and the the universal (major mode agnostic) minibuffer.

I couldn't find anything that might be causing this in the lfe-mode Elisp
code, but I'm clueless when it comes to Emacs' Elisp library.

In a day or so, I'll get around to spinning up a new installation of
Raspberry Pi OS (not a headless installation with no graphical environment)
and attach a keyboard and a monitor to the RPi it to see if the behavior
can be reproduced in that OS' terminal emulators for LFE mode. I'll also
try to rope Robert Virding, the creator and maintainer of lfe-mode, into
this discussion too.

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On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 6:53 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > No, it's the other way round: since the terminal supports these events,
> > it generates the associated sequences.  But if Emacs is currently not
> > prepared to apply the input decode map (eg. while inside read-char) the
> > characters will be interpreted as normal keyboard input.
>
> Yup.  I can reproduce the behaviour in Ubuntu Terminal too, for
> instance.  Recipe:
>
> emacs -Q -nw
> C-u
>
> wait a bit, and then select a different application:
>
>
>
> I thought there was another bug report open about this, but I can't find
> it now.
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, if there&#39;s another bug report about it, then tha=
t leaves me hopeful, and I&#39;d like to peer into the discussion, as I sea=
rched and tried to find any knowledge of this online before submitting the =
issue but struck out.<br><br>The fact that this seems to be universal behav=
ior and so easy to reproduce - yet also=C2=A0only found so far in the minib=
uffer through one key chord - suggests that it might be easy to hunt down a=
nd fix, but at the same time, is more so of a very low priority curiosity t=
han an operationally deleterious bug.<br><br>Attached in a screenshot, howe=
ver, is why I find the=C2=A0issue troubling. When in LFE=C2=A0(Lisp Flavore=
d Erlang) major mode, I cannot task switch back and forth without inserting=
 a sequence of nested [O] [I] pairs into LFE=C2=A0code, which in turn have =
to constantly be deleted.<br><br>I know there&#39;s an error that is report=
ed when lfe-mode starts up, which might wind up allowing this to happen som=
ehow, but my sense is that it&#39;s better to try to determine what glitch =
is shared between an lfe-mode main buffer and the the universal (major mode=
 agnostic) minibuffer.<br><br>I couldn&#39;t find anything that might be ca=
using this in the lfe-mode=C2=A0Elisp code, but I&#39;m clueless when it co=
mes to Emacs&#39; Elisp library.<br><br>In a day or so, I&#39;ll get around=
 to spinning up a new installation of Raspberry Pi OS (not a headless insta=
llation with no graphical environment) and attach a keyboard and a monitor =
to the RPi it to see if the behavior can be reproduced in that OS&#39; term=
inal emulators for LFE mode. I&#39;ll also try to rope Robert Virding, the =
creator and maintainer of lfe-mode,=C2=A0into this discussion too.<br><br><=
img src=3D"cid:ii_l6cfkyzy0" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"447" height=3D"225"=
><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 6:53 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:larsi@HIDDEN">larsi@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Andreas Schwab &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:schwa=
b@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">schwab@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<b=
r>
<br>
&gt; No, it&#39;s the other way round: since the terminal supports these ev=
ents,<br>
&gt; it generates the associated sequences.=C2=A0 But if Emacs is currently=
 not<br>
&gt; prepared to apply the input decode map (eg. while inside read-char) th=
e<br>
&gt; characters will be interpreted as normal keyboard input.<br>
<br>
Yup.=C2=A0 I can reproduce the behaviour in Ubuntu Terminal too, for<br>
instance.=C2=A0 Recipe:<br>
<br>
emacs -Q -nw<br>
C-u<br>
<br>
wait a bit, and then select a different application:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I thought there was another bug report open about this, but I can&#39;t fin=
d<br>
it now.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> writes:

> No, it's the other way round: since the terminal supports these events,
> it generates the associated sequences.  But if Emacs is currently not
> prepared to apply the input decode map (eg. while inside read-char) the
> characters will be interpreted as normal keyboard input.

Yup.  I can reproduce the behaviour in Ubuntu Terminal too, for
instance.  Recipe:

emacs -Q -nw
C-u

wait a bit, and then select a different application:


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I thought there was another bug report open about this, but I can't find
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On Jul 31 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> Does this mean your terminal emulator doesn't support focus-in and
> focus-out notifications?

No, it's the other way round: since the terminal supports these events,
it generates the associated sequences.  But if Emacs is currently not
prepared to apply the input decode map (eg. while inside read-char) the
characters will be interpreted as normal keyboard input.

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> From: "M. Page-Lieberman" <mateus.justino@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 02:43:31 -0400
> 
> [O] for out (exited) and [I] for in (entered) for Emacs windows focus
> events are sent to buffers for the functions registered to the
> focus-change-function events, AFAICT, and the frame-focus-state maps to
> those codes (t -> [I], nil -> [O]).
> 
> In order to reproduce this, one needs to simply do C-u, wait for it to
> appear in the mini buffer, and then switch to another frame. The code
> "[ O-" will appear in the mini buffer. Upon returning focus to the frame,
> the "[ O-" will be replaced by [ I-" in the minibuffer.

Does this mean your terminal emulator doesn't support focus-in and
focus-out notifications?  Which terminal emulator is that and what is
its version?

Emacs enables this on xterm on the assumption that versions of xterm
that don't support this functionality simply ignore the sequences.




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[O] for out (exited) and [I] for in (entered) for Emacs windows focus
events are sent to buffers for the functions registered to the
focus-change-function events, AFAICT, and the frame-focus-state maps to
those codes (t -> [I], nil -> [O]).

In order to reproduce this, one needs to simply do C-u, wait for it to
appear in the mini buffer, and then switch to another frame. The code
"[ O-" will appear in the mini buffer. Upon returning focus to the frame,
the "[ O-" will be replaced by [ I-" in the minibuffer.

This would not be such a problem, if it were not for these codes being
thrown into the _main_ buffer when in LFE major mode ("[O [I [O [I [[O [I
[O]]] I [O [I]]]]]]") and switching back and forth among different Emacs
frames and different system app windows. I communicated to Robert
Virding (the creator and maintainer of LFE mode), but it was unclear to
me if he saw this message. Regardless, I told him that I would seek
assistance from the larger Emacs community on this issue, since it too
occurs in the minibuffer regardless of major modes. It can be replicated
for example in at least both List Interaction ElDoc mode and Text mode.

This behavior of event codes being sent to the minibuffer once C-u is
typed and frames lose focus was first detected in macOS' Terminal app
when connecting to a Raspberry Pi OS instance of Emacs over ssh, then a
local instance of Emacs running in the Terminal app on macOs, and then
finally also replicated on the Windows Console app.

The behavior does not occur when running Emacs in graphical mode.

In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin15.6.0, NS appkit-1404.47
Version 10.11.6 (Build 15G22010))
 of 2022-05-11 built on builder10-11.lan
System Description:  Mac OS X 10.11.6

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Important settings:
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Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
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  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
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<div dir=3D"ltr">--text follows this line--<br>[O] for out (exited) and [I]=
 for in (entered) for Emacs windows focus<br>events are sent to buffers for=
 the functions registered to the<br>focus-change-function events, AFAICT, a=
nd the frame-focus-state maps to<br>those codes (t -&gt; [I], nil -&gt; [O]=
).<br><br>In order to reproduce this, one needs to simply do C-u, wait for =
it to<br>appear in the mini buffer, and then switch to another frame. The c=
ode<br>&quot;[ O-&quot; will appear in the mini buffer. Upon returning focu=
s to the frame,<br>the &quot;[ O-&quot; will be replaced by [ I-&quot; in t=
he minibuffer.<br><br>This would not be such a problem, if it were not for =
these codes being<br>thrown into the _main_ buffer when in LFE major mode (=
&quot;[O [I [O [I [[O [I<br>[O]]] I [O [I]]]]]]&quot;) and switching back a=
nd forth among different Emacs<br>frames and different system app windows. =
I communicated to Robert<br>Virding (the creator and maintainer of LFE mode=
), but it was unclear to<br>me if he saw this message. Regardless, I told h=
im that I would seek<br>assistance from the larger Emacs community on this =
issue, since it too<br>occurs in the minibuffer regardless of major modes. =
It can be replicated<br>for example in at least both List Interaction ElDoc=
 mode and Text mode.<br><br>This behavior of event codes being sent to the =
minibuffer once C-u is<br>typed and frames lose focus was first detected in=
 macOS&#39; Terminal app<br>when connecting to a Raspberry Pi OS instance o=
f Emacs over ssh, then a<br>local instance of Emacs running in the Terminal=
 app on macOs, and then<br>finally also replicated on the Windows Console a=
pp.<br><br>The behavior does not occur when running Emacs in graphical mode=
.<br><br>In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin15.6.0, NS appkit-1=
404.47 Version 10.11.6 (Build 15G22010))<br>=C2=A0of 2022-05-11 built on bu=
ilder10-11.lan<br>System Description: =C2=A0Mac OS X 10.11.6<br><br>Configu=
red using:<br>=C2=A0&#39;configure --with-ns &#39;--enable-locallisppath=3D=
/Library/Application<br>=C2=A0Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/A=
pplication<br>=C2=A0Support/Emacs/site-lisp&#39; --with-modules<br>=C2=A0CF=
LAGS=3D-DNSTextAlignmentRight=3DNSRightTextAlignment&#39;<br><br>Configured=
 features:<br>ACL GMP GNUTLS JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER =
THREADS<br>TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS ZLIB<br><br>Important settings:<br>=C2=A0 va=
lue of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8<br>=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix<br><br=
>Major mode: Fundamental<br><div><br></div><div>Minor modes in effect:<br>=
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 show-paren-=
mode: t<br>=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t<br>=
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 file-name-shad=
ow-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: =
t<br>=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t<br>=
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 buffer-read-only: t<br>=C2=A0 lin=
e-number-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 indent-tabs-mode: t<br>=C2=A0 transient-mark-mod=
e: t<br><br>Load-path shadows:<br>None found.<br><br>Features:<br>(shadow s=
ort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs<br>rfc822 mml =
mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util rmail<br>rmail-loaddef=
s auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs<br>eieio-loaddefs password-ca=
che json map text-property-search time-date<br>subr-x seq mm-decode mm-bodi=
es mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev<br>gmm-utils mailheader cl-loadd=
efs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045<br>ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-u=
tils term/xterm xterm byte-opt gv<br>bytecomp byte-compile cconv iso-transl=
 tooltip eldoc paren electric<br>uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-ty=
pe elisp-mode mwheel<br>term/ns-win ns-win ucs-normalize mule-util term/com=
mon-win tool-bar dnd<br>fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list repl=
ace newcomment<br>text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-=
bar rfn-eshadow<br>isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock =
font-lock syntax<br>font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic c=
ham georgian<br>utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao k=
orean<br>japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech europ=
ean<br>ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript char=
prop<br>case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray<br>cl-=
preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files<br>window t=
ext-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages<br>mule custom=
 widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads kqueue<br>cocoa ns multi=
-tty make-network-process emacs)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Memory inform=
ation:<br>((conses 16 55267 10759)<br>=C2=A0(symbols 48 6667 1)<br>=C2=A0(s=
trings 32 18265 1947)<br>=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 597801)<br>=C2=A0(vectors 16=
 11475)<br>=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 136249 7693)<br>=C2=A0(floats 8 24 245)<br=
>=C2=A0(intervals 56 251 0)<br>=C2=A0(buffers 992 11))<br></div></div>

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New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#56854; Package emacs. Full text available.
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