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Hello,

As Tobias explains at
<https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2022-08/msg00073.html> and
as can be seen from =E2=80=98.guix-authorizations=E2=80=99, the (guix openp=
gp) and (guix
git-authenticate) machinery reports the fingerprint of subkeys on
signatures (when subkeys are used) rather than the fingerprint of
primary keys.

This should be changed to report primary keys, at least optionally.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN> skribis:

> On 09-08-2022 23:07, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As Tobias explains at
>> <https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2022-08/msg00073.html>  and
>> as can be seen from =E2=80=98.guix-authorizations=E2=80=99, the (guix op=
enpgp) and (guix
>> git-authenticate) machinery reports the fingerprint of subkeys on
>> signatures (when subkeys are used) rather than the fingerprint of
>> primary keys.
>>
>> This should be changed to report primary keys, at least optionally.
>
> Why should it be changed? IIUC .guix-authorizations and (guix ...)
> care about the key that things were signed with, not necessarily the
> primary key, so it seems to me that it needs to report the subkey
> fingerprint, not the fingerprint of the primary key it belongs to, as
> the primary key is irrelevant to them IIUC.

Yes, I kinda agree, but=E2=80=A6  the motivation here is that OpenPGP user
interfaces don=E2=80=99t normally refer to subkey fingerprints; instead they
refer to primary key fingerprints, even if you use a subkey, which is
the point of subkeys AIUI.  That Guix treats subkeys differently is
confusing to seasoned OpenPGP users.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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This is not a mere UI issue=2E  Basic verification is currently broke^Wdiff=
erent, too, or the latest incident wouldn't have happened=2E

Hmm=2E  I wonder=2E=2E=2E

Ludo', are you worried that, since we already handle revocations like GPG =
would, the 'proper' OpenPGPmodel could somehow break?  That we are in effec=
t unable to safely fix this (yes, I maintain it is a) bug?

Apologies if I'm wildly off the mark here=2E  But then I'd like to hear so=
me plausible threat models=2E  Maxime?

In their absence, nasty surprises like what happened last week are argumen=
t enough to (try to! :-) implement normal OpenPGP behaviour=2E



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This is not a mere UI issue=2E  Basic verification is currently broke^Wdiff=
erent, too, or the latest incident wouldn't have happened=2E

Hmm=2E  I wonder=2E=2E=2E

Ludo', are you worried that, since we already handle revocations like GPG =
would, the 'proper' OpenPGPmodel could somehow break?  That we are in effec=
t unable to safely fix this (yes, I maintain it is a) bug?

Apologies if I'm wildly off the mark here=2E  But then I'd like to hear so=
me plausible threat models=2E  Maxime?

In their absence, nasty surprises like what happened last week are argumen=
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T G-R

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Of all the stupid typos=2E=2E=2E

>Ludo', are you worried that, since we already handle revocations like GPG=
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=2E=2E=2EDON'T handle, of course, by design=2E

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Of all the stupid typos=2E=2E=2E

>Ludo', are you worried that, since we already handle revocations like GPG=
 would

=2E=2E=2EDON'T handle, of course, by design=2E

Kind regards,

T G-R

Sent on the go=2E  Excuse or enjoy my brevity=2E

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