Received: (at 57246) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 08:53:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 18 04:53:54 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oObHl-000739-Sp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:53:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1oObHk-00072x-RK for 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:53:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1oObHf-0000eX-F3; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:53:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=pn7QQu2EIz2wav21AxjyQrbTDCt9QlCFTlWxgS5xoYc=; b=SKzAKj4ol/6NNSIj+uz+ lBSMIrbkE3y7qmNmBN37xWKj+/Fy3UQn9yTjowYdZNPp0BEgSoAznJmPp1id9A8xBFskRmOVxG19+ H4EwWKoXRB/RziFaGxod4CnDEwZoJbP8itW7AV1CfkEfHRari1DPVbWwCVoR3iFTj696kbjXqTntZ CpL+w28sowHebOW1TGwDpXPfpAnFz+PrfwljcZDRzgXzFU1H717HxrFUNyyoqojbuX9+9SfYpGaDO i7ZHZUqf8gNGHaXUYGp/8DRR0x3l/1WbDteD36swKz8JjAg6ENWRmvTKX0l1v/r1QUeVTgmtB8Fsz ndJesGpUnFZcWw==; Received: from pd9fb77f7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.251.119.247]:62331 helo=MUTANT) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <arash@HIDDEN>) id 1oObHd-0003l9-T4; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:53:47 -0400 From: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> To: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#57246: biblatex don't recognize video type entry In-Reply-To: <87tu6ab5ym.fsf@HIDDEN> (Roland Winkler's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:12:17 -0500") References: <CAPHku6M_m-LOcvg37QzXO=xY0nPCHg5ggQOVpETQWgFgg0PbxQ@HIDDEN> <87v8qrglny.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu6acwei.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmnAykqs7vJxxxD6bAAxo9Gc_gEWAJg8PUME7v_e0exm+g@HIDDEN> <87tu6ab5ym.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 10:53:25 +0200 Message-ID: <86sfluorui.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57246 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>, Cletip Cletip <clement020302@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> writes: > On Wed, Aug 17 2022, Stefan Kangas wrote: >> How about just having two variables instead? One for users, and one for >> the mode itself. > > That's certainly an option (see the last paragraph of my message). > > Is there a possibility to declare the customizability of a variable > obsolete? bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist has been around as a user > variable for more than ten years and bibtex-BibTeX-entry-alist for yet > many more years. I doubt that many people ever tried to customize these > variables. Still, if we add new dedicated user variables, it would be > nice to tell users that the customization of the old variables has been > depreciated. My apologies if I'm missing the obvious, but why not leave bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist customizable and introduce an internal variable, say bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist-builtin and move the current content into that one? Then define a function like this: (defun bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist () (append bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist-builtin)) where user entries overrule the builtin ones. This is what AUCTeX mostly does for the "big" variables. Best, Arash
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Full text available.Received: (at 57246) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2022 03:12:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 17 23:12:26 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53369 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oOVxK-0006O8-BS for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 23:12:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oOVxI-0006Nw-84 for 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 23:12:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oOVxC-00012v-UI; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 23:12:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=jSkSbCdxdy2/9WZHMAzogQSMu0a3ufpf3psv8yEFD8Q=; b=LSb7vND/v5p2nL3Y4N6N QocT3Di1uFX9sSb5BAVrLZHLGay7zoj104KIJjgNK6GIH19Sly8tNNf3Z+Ri0C9bAAPvr/aWX3gDK YlsdMTxGjJUXDgL+cHizvkNlxuOX+TxP5gev3docTV+rIxJ4rTjpES5Cp1Licg0FJlIDd4zC5saCs hSZWj3DcGPPzWXe+fMywYP785SGZVnnNAOlRwoIoVfYGG4HAtH8gHuGMXZ1sMYJ+jwDnmi/ej9Yo2 nHGB0x4WH+3zrFC/Nx5hDEbJwShLQPTFU7y0LOnZ0ur1rkSvOlLrNSHYVPegvp4tVhMlX0IMSNCEg c93aVKdRBN6OEw==; Received: from [2600:1700:5650:f790::22] (port=43214 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oOVxC-0003tN-Kx; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 23:12:18 -0400 From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#57246: biblatex don't recognize video type entry References: <CAPHku6M_m-LOcvg37QzXO=xY0nPCHg5ggQOVpETQWgFgg0PbxQ@HIDDEN> <87v8qrglny.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu6acwei.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmnAykqs7vJxxxD6bAAxo9Gc_gEWAJg8PUME7v_e0exm+g@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:12:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnAykqs7vJxxxD6bAAxo9Gc_gEWAJg8PUME7v_e0exm+g@HIDDEN> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:52:57 -0700") Message-ID: <87tu6ab5ym.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57246 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, Cletip Cletip <clement020302@HIDDEN>, 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Wed, Aug 17 2022, Stefan Kangas wrote: > How about just having two variables instead? One for users, and one for > the mode itself. That's certainly an option (see the last paragraph of my message). Is there a possibility to declare the customizability of a variable obsolete? bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist has been around as a user variable for more than ten years and bibtex-BibTeX-entry-alist for yet many more years. I doubt that many people ever tried to customize these variables. Still, if we add new dedicated user variables, it would be nice to tell users that the customization of the old variables has been depreciated.
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Full text available.Received: (at 57246) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2022 22:56:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 17 18:56:00 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oORxA-0008PN-14 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:56:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33820) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oORx7-0008P9-Ie for 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:55:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oORx2-0006UW-4L; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:55:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=VmD54XiL4y1xvpsyBQy+7QWMvuv8L3tqtQ3HIsdTgwk=; b=AMIoD9J1aK/ZxqEj/oo4 Jow34pEI3PmnNajnrA6GgC2axRkXwLAa76keyrIq4UTfAuJdSs9wTLDZm7EhmXvN20hz5/7DzWJI5 LocmGbmDw8ge1/R60uJj1syZWJg67JsD1j4q4LAYMqp0VpqhOk8Niwp9lkqjt+QSwuQGKpmRsgu0h iSGtRFQtH0rYV1vlEcfGSmFAPm2zxRN+I8oy1GKr8DBNGcUmgetT7MZsvkFW8jH6qCT2cFYeI6zU2 aOJ2/ICw59MxRkMr6VgMZOZliqusRViDU+Iq1NHiEZsWlglsCLQTAEr+TDHapqeLtNXtW+VxHdp83 PXnocsUb92/Ycw==; Received: from [2600:1700:5650:f790::22] (port=47238 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1oORx1-0008A6-SN; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:55:51 -0400 From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#57246: biblatex don't recognize video type entry References: <CAPHku6M_m-LOcvg37QzXO=xY0nPCHg5ggQOVpETQWgFgg0PbxQ@HIDDEN> <87v8qrglny.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:55:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8qrglny.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:21:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87tu6acwei.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57246 Cc: Cletip Cletip <clement020302@HIDDEN>, 57246 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Wed, Aug 17 2022, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Cletip Cletip <clement020302@HIDDEN> writes: > >> It's all in the object: biblatex does not recognize inputs of type "video". >> I think that the bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist variable (and maybe >> bibtex-biblatex-field-alist) should be modified > > Perhaps Roland has some comments here; added to the CCs. I believe these are non-standard biblatex entries with incomplete biblatex support. In Emacs BibTeX mode the problem is here that all biblatex entry types are defined via the rather "big" user variable bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist. So the idea is that users can customize this variable and define additional entry types. However, this is not a very practical strategy. From a technical perspective, there is still bug#53606. Also, as biblatex evolves, the default value of bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist is continuously updated with each release of Emacs. (Usually this refers to small changes concerning biblatex entry types that are already defined via this variable.) However, if a user customizes this variable in whatever way, she will miss the updated default value when the next release of emacs is shipped. I believe, these problems are not specific to BibTeX mode. There are several "big" user variables in Auctex where I am splicing my custom elements into an alist instead of using the customize machinery. This is not a very user-friendly approach. Often such "big" user variables are alists. Sometimes I have been wondering whether the customize machinery could provide special support for alists that allows one to modify or add individual cons cells without touching other cells that are part of the default value. Then if a new release of emacs uses updated values for such user variables, there are less opportunities for how this may collide with individual customizations. Would that be useful? In the present context, a simpler strategy would be to define a new user variable bibtex-biblatex-extra-entry-alist that complements / overrides the defaults in bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist.
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I think that the bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist variable (and maybe bibtex-biblatex-field-alist) should be modified Thanks in advance --000000000000e82fd505e65ecd31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello<div>It's all in the object: biblatex does not re= cognize inputs of type "video".<br>I think that the bibtex-biblat= ex-entry-alist variable (and maybe bibtex-biblatex-field-alist) should be m= odified<br><br>Thanks in advance<br></div></div> --000000000000e82fd505e65ecd31--
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