GNU bug report logs - #57736
[PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.

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Package: guix-patches;

Reported by: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>

Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:02:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Done: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>

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Report forwarded to guix-patches <at> gnu.org:
bug#57736; Package guix-patches. (Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to guix-patches <at> gnu.org. (Sun, 11 Sep 2022 18:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>
To: guix-patches <at> gnu.org
Cc: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 15:00:35 -0300
The en dash is used to separate pairs of words or numbers. The em dash is the
one used to separate sentences. In addition, in English text we are using the
convention of not separating the dash with spaces.

* etc/news.scm: Change the en dash to em in entry about Emacs native
compilation.
---
 etc/news.scm | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/news.scm b/etc/news.scm
index a0716e0cdec4..efc219201f08 100644
--- a/etc/news.scm
+++ b/etc/news.scm
@@ -37,8 +37,8 @@
 @code{user-emacs-directory}.
 
 Furthermore, the build system for Emacs packages transparently supports native
-compilation, but note, that @code{emacs-minimal} -- the default Emacs for
-building packages -- has been configured without native compilation.
+compilation, but note, that @code{emacs-minimal}---the default Emacs for
+building packages---has been configured without native compilation.
 To natively compile your emacs packages ahead of time, use a transformation
 like @option{--with-input=emacs-minimal=emacs}.")
          (de "Emacs kann nun native Maschinenbefehle erzeugen.  Standardgemäß
@@ -47,8 +47,8 @@
 @code{user-emacs-directory}.
 
 Darüber hinaus unterstützt das Erzeugungssystem für Emacs-Pakete die Erzeugung
-nativer Maschinenbefehle.  Beachten Sie jedoch, dass @code{emacs-minimal} --
-die Emacs-Variante, mit der normalerweise Emacs-Pakete erzeugt werden --
+nativer Maschinenbefehle.  Beachten Sie jedoch, dass @code{emacs-minimal} ---
+die Emacs-Variante, mit der normalerweise Emacs-Pakete erzeugt werden ---
 weiterhin keine nativen Befehle generiert.  Um native Befehle für Ihre
 Emacs-Pakete schon im Voraus zu erzeugen, nutzen Sie eine Transformation, z.B.
 @option{--with-input=emacs-minimal=emacs}.")




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Message #8 received at 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>, 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [bug#57736] [PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 21:07:56 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
The first patch LGTM. I can't push it right now. If someone else could do it, it'd be great.

Ok for the second patch if a native English speaker and a German translator confirm :)

Le 11 septembre 2022 20:00:35 GMT+02:00, Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via <guix-patches <at> gnu.org> a écrit :
>The en dash is used to separate pairs of words or numbers. The em dash is the
>one used to separate sentences. In addition, in English text we are using the
>convention of not separating the dash with spaces.
>
>* etc/news.scm: Change the en dash to em in entry about Emacs native
>compilation.
>---
> etc/news.scm | 8 ++++----
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
>diff --git a/etc/news.scm b/etc/news.scm
>index a0716e0cdec4..efc219201f08 100644
>--- a/etc/news.scm
>+++ b/etc/news.scm
>@@ -37,8 +37,8 @@
> @code{user-emacs-directory}.
> 
> Furthermore, the build system for Emacs packages transparently supports native
>-compilation, but note, that @code{emacs-minimal} -- the default Emacs for
>-building packages -- has been configured without native compilation.
>+compilation, but note, that @code{emacs-minimal}---the default Emacs for
>+building packages---has been configured without native compilation.
> To natively compile your emacs packages ahead of time, use a transformation
> like @option{--with-input=emacs-minimal=emacs}.")
>          (de "Emacs kann nun native Maschinenbefehle erzeugen.  Standardgemäß
>@@ -47,8 +47,8 @@
> @code{user-emacs-directory}.
> 
> Darüber hinaus unterstützt das Erzeugungssystem für Emacs-Pakete die Erzeugung
>-nativer Maschinenbefehle.  Beachten Sie jedoch, dass @code{emacs-minimal} --
>-die Emacs-Variante, mit der normalerweise Emacs-Pakete erzeugt werden --
>+nativer Maschinenbefehle.  Beachten Sie jedoch, dass @code{emacs-minimal} ---
>+die Emacs-Variante, mit der normalerweise Emacs-Pakete erzeugt werden ---
> weiterhin keine nativen Befehle generiert.  Um native Befehle für Ihre
> Emacs-Pakete schon im Voraus zu erzeugen, nutzen Sie eine Transformation, z.B.
> @option{--with-input=emacs-minimal=emacs}.")
>
>
>
[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

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bug#57736; Package guix-patches. (Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:32:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, bauermann <at> kolabnow.com
Subject: Re: [bug#57735] [PATCH 1/2] news: Add 'pt' translation.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 19:30:32 +0200
close 57736
thanks

Pushed, closing.  I mistakenly wrote my comments at bug
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/57735




bug closed, send any further explanations to 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com> Request was from "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:32:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #16 received at 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>
Cc: 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>
Subject: Re: [bug#57736] [PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 22:13:49 +0200
Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu> writes:
> Ok for the second patch if a native English speaker and a German translator confirm :)

P.S. Turns out Liliana and Julien were right and in German only an en
dash is correct in parenthetical use.  I’ve also made that mistake in
the manual translation at one place …  Fixed now, thanks to Julien.  But
for English em dash is correct.

Regards,
Florian




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bug#57736; Package guix-patches. (Sun, 25 Sep 2022 21:03:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #19 received at 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
Cc: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>, 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [bug#57736] [PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 18:00:25 -0300
Hello Florian,

Sorry for the delay in my responses, I've been mostly AFK in the past 2
weeks.

"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de> writes:

> Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu> writes:
>> Ok for the second patch if a native English speaker and a German translator confirm :)
>
> P.S. Turns out Liliana and Julien were right and in German only an en
> dash is correct in parenthetical use.  I’ve also made that mistake in
> the manual translation at one place …  Fixed now, thanks to Julien.  But
> for English em dash is correct.

Sorry about that error. I wasn't aware that there were language-specific
differences in the meaning of em and en dash.

-- 
Thanks
Thiago




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bug#57736; Package guix-patches. (Mon, 26 Sep 2022 15:47:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #22 received at 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian <at> pelzflorian.de>
To: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com>
Cc: Julien Lepiller <julien <at> lepiller.eu>, 57736 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [bug#57736] [PATCH 2/2] news: Fix en dash usage.
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:46:23 +0200
Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann <at> kolabnow.com> writes:
> Sorry about that error. I wasn't aware that there were language-specific
> differences in the meaning of em and en dash.

Oh I am most thankful!  Frankly I noticed I made the same mistake many
more times.  Fixed thanks to you two.

Regards,
Florian




bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:24:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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