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I corrupted my store and it says you want the guix pull output, so
please find it at the end of this message. Mostly I send it because guix
asks, but (see below) at least 2 things broke on that machine, not sure
it's related. I have to explain a little but I don't actually require or
expect that a lot of indivudually-tailored help can be given by GNU in
this case... It's a non-standard use case on more than one account.

I have been doing more than a few unsupported things with this installation.
Over the week-end and Monday, 3 things stand out:

* I have been starting to use guix home on this guix which is not a guix
system but which is on top of Debian. I have some user shepherd
services. They still work as I'm writing this. I think this is
unsupported though.

* I tried to install a guix system to a thumb drive. It is inconvenient
to use the ISO so I decided to do it from Guix on top of Debian. When I
do this I can't start the cow-store service because it's only available
from the ISO installer. Instead I can use the
procedure mount-cow-store from guile REPL as root, and it goes
through. I have done this in the past probably succesfully in virtual
machines running guix system, although I could not say for sure if the
store of the installing virtual machine survived it. This time however,
it failed silently to install GRUB stage 1 correctly on the thumb
drive. Then, I realized my store was broken on the installing machine 
on the next morning.

* Guix was not in my paths because the latest guix profiles were not in
  the store anymore. As a last ditch effort I used rm to remove some
  links to non-existing store locations and ln to restore a chain of
  symbolic links to some recent Guix that were still in the
  store. I did this under /var/guix only. Because rm does what rm does,
  I can suppose I did not remove store files on top of what was
  already missing. guix-daemon did start, but then guix pull failed with
  the backtrace below

The second point is kind of messy because I know for a fact that the
grub-install from Debian was broken either by GRUB upstream, by Debian
or by me, but not by guix. This in turn may or may not be weirdly
related to how I may have corrupted the guix store of that machine when
installing to the thumb drive...

I also have a private channel but I don't think it's the cause. I have
changed some path information, the private channel is accessed from a
local machine filesystem path.

Updating channel 'priv' from Git repository at '/home/aaa/bbb/ccc/ddd'...
Authenticating channel 'priv', commits 8ded6c0 to 3e62002 (1 new commits)...
Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at 'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git'...
Authenticating channel 'guix', commits 9edb3f6 to 05c5807 (84 new commits)...
Building from these channels:
  guix      https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git   05c5807
  priv      /home/maze/src/chan/priv    3e62002
substitute: updating substitutes from 'https://ci.guix.gnu.org'... 100.0%
 compute-guix-derivation  1011B                                                                                                                                                                                                       94KiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%
Computing Guix derivation for 'x86_64-linux'... -Backtrace:
In ./guix/store.scm:
  1377:11 19|(loop (#<gexp-input #<<computed-file> name: "guix-packages-base-modules" gexp: #<gexp (begin (use-m?> ?) ?)
   1290:4 18 (call-with-build-handler #<procedure 7f3440ab8ea0 at ./guix/store.scm:1330:2 (continue store things mo?> ?)
  2165:24 17 (run-with-store #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70> #<procedure 7f3438f67c00 at ./guix/gexp.scm:89?> ?)
In ./guix/gexp.scm:
   898:13 16 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/store.scm:
   1993:8 15 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/gexp.scm:
   300:22 14 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
   1181:2 13 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
   1047:2 12 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
    893:4 11 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/store.scm:
  2050:12 10 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
   1372:6  9 (map/accumulate-builds #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70> #<procedure 7f3438f67500 at ./guix/stor?> ?)
  1377:11  8\(loop (#<gexp-input #<<computed-file> name: "guix-packages-base" gexp: #<gexp (begin (use-modules (?> ?) ?)
   1290:4  7 (call-with-build-handler #<procedure 7f3438f674e0 at ./guix/store.scm:1330:2 (continue store things mo?> ?)
  2165:24  6 (run-with-store #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70> #<procedure 7f3438f67460 at ./guix/gexp.scm:89?> ?)
In ./guix/gexp.scm:
   898:13  5 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/store.scm:
   1993:8  4 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/gexp.scm:
   300:22  3 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/store.scm:
  2037:38  2 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70>)
In ./guix/derivations.scm:
   963:17  1 (derivation #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70> "guix-packages-base" "/gnu/store/1jgcbdzx2ss6xv59w?" ?)
In ./guix/store.scm:
   1033:9  0 (_ #<store-connection 256.99 7f34440c8d70> "guix-packages-base.drv" #vu8(68 101 114 105 118 101 40 91 ?) ?)

./guix/store.scm:1033:9: ERROR:
  1. &store-protocol-error:
      message: "opening file `/gnu/store/406g41s0dgfmsczphv95p56hbs84a3rf-guix-extra.drv': No such file or directory"
      status: 1
guix pull: error: You found a bug: the program '/gnu/store/9xprnlxcag6z3ib6gmw8rs4k04iw808p-compute-guix-derivation'
failed to compute the derivation for Guix (version: "05c5807ea5ce1f8af8068151906d670edda97afe"; system: "x86_64-linux";
host version: "072cc8d1415a2abf66b36249c61658a828dead88"; pull-version: 1).
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Hi,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 at 18:28, Maze <maze@HIDDEN> wrote:

> ./guix/store.scm:1033:9: ERROR:
>   1. &store-protocol-error:
>       message: "opening file `/gnu/store/406g41s0dgfmsczphv95p56hbs84a3rf-guix-extra.drv': No such file or directory"
>       status: 1
> guix pull: error: You found a bug: the program '/gnu/store/9xprnlxcag6z3ib6gmw8rs4k04iw808p-compute-guix-derivation'
> failed to compute the derivation for Guix (version: "05c5807ea5ce1f8af8068151906d670edda97afe"; system: "x86_64-linux";
> host version: "072cc8d1415a2abf66b36249c61658a828dead88"; pull-version: 1).
> Please report the COMPLETE output above by email to <bug-guix@HIDDEN>.

Well, I do not know if it will fix your issue because I am not sure to
understand your many variations. :-)  Well, have you tried,

    guix build /gnu/store/406g41s0dgfmsczphv95p56hbs84a3rf-guix-extra.drv

where the substitutes are allowed?  It should download the necessary
items and then,

   guix pull --commit=05c5807ea5ce1f8af8068151906d670edda97afe

should complete.


Cheers,
simon

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September 15, 2022 2:59 AM, "Maze" <maze@HIDDEN> wrote:

> I corrupted my store and it says you want the guix pull output, so
> please find it at the end of this message. Mostly I send it because gui=
x
> asks, but (see below) at least 2 things broke on that machine, not sure
> it's related. I have to explain a little but I don't actually require o=
r
> expect that a lot of indivudually-tailored help can be given by GNU in
> this case... It's a non-standard use case on more than one account.
>=20
>=20I have been doing more than a few unsupported things with this instal=
lation.
> Over the week-end and Monday, 3 things stand out:
>=20
>=20* I have been starting to use guix home on this guix which is not a g=
uix
> system but which is on top of Debian. I have some user shepherd
> services. They still work as I'm writing this. I think this is
> unsupported though.
>=20
>=20* I tried to install a guix system to a thumb drive. It is inconvenie=
nt
> to use the ISO so I decided to do it from Guix on top of Debian. When I

I personally do not understand your usecase.  For me, installing the=20
guix=20system installer on a usb is as simple as:

wget https://path/to/guix/installer.iso
sudo dd if=3Dinstaller.iso of=3D/dev/sdb status=3Dprogress && sync

I would rather do than than to try to build a custom iso image.  :)

Also do you wanna just take the plunge and install guix system?

It's super worth it!

It has been the most stable distro that I have ever used.

Thanks,

Joshua

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jbranso@HIDDEN writes:



> September 15, 2022 2:59 AM, "Maze" <maze@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> I corrupted my store and it says you want the guix pull output, so
>> please find it at the end of this message. Mostly I send it because guix
>> asks, but (see below) at least 2 things broke on that machine, not sure
>> it's related. I have to explain a little but I don't actually require or
>> expect that a lot of indivudually-tailored help can be given by GNU in
>> this case... It's a non-standard use case on more than one account.
>> 
>> I have been doing more than a few unsupported things with this installation.
>> Over the week-end and Monday, 3 things stand out:
>> 
>> * I have been starting to use guix home on this guix which is not a guix
>> system but which is on top of Debian. I have some user shepherd
>> services. They still work as I'm writing this. I think this is
>> unsupported though.
>> 
>> * I tried to install a guix system to a thumb drive. It is inconvenient
>> to use the ISO so I decided to do it from Guix on top of Debian. When I
>
> I personally do not understand your usecase.  For me, installing the 
> guix system installer on a usb is as simple as:
>
> wget https://path/to/guix/installer.iso
> sudo dd if=installer.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress && sync
>
> I would rather do than than to try to build a custom iso image.  :)
>

I'd rather have a bootable and rw system on a thumbdrive than an ISO
image which is a ro system which loads itself in RAM. Changes don't
survive reboots, that's what I find inconvenient with an ISO image.

But anyway now I think I understand that I don't need to mount the store
copy-on-write when the installing (and booted) sytem has a rw store. At
least I think so, I'll try next time. It means what I did last time was
probably unnecessary to begin with.

> Also do you wanna just take the plunge and install guix system?
>
> It's super worth it!
>
> It has been the most stable distro that I have ever used.

I know it's much better with Guix system. But I'll need some time.
Because I live in a country where VPNs are a necessity but are supposed
to be licensed, I have my own homebrew VPN on Debian using ssh, sysvinit 
and a bunch of horribly dirty shell scripts and cron tasks. It is
probably possible to achieve a much better VPN system with shepherd, but
it's a programming task, I'm trying to do it. It's actually both
a motivation to migrate my main computer to Guix... and the reason why I
can't do it right now.

> Thanks,
>
> Joshua

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October 14, 2022 7:48 AM, "Maze" <maze@HIDDEN> wrote:

> jbranso@HIDDEN writes:
>=20
>>=20September 15, 2022 2:59 AM, "Maze" <maze@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>=20
>>>=20I corrupted my store and it says you want the guix pull output, so
>>> please find it at the end of this message. Mostly I send it because g=
uix
>>> asks, but (see below) at least 2 things broke on that machine, not su=
re
>>> it's related. I have to explain a little but I don't actually require=
 or
>>> expect that a lot of indivudually-tailored help can be given by GNU i=
n
>>> this case... It's a non-standard use case on more than one account.
>>>=20
>>>=20I have been doing more than a few unsupported things with this inst=
allation.
>>> Over the week-end and Monday, 3 things stand out:
>>>=20
>>>=20* I have been starting to use guix home on this guix which is not a=
 guix
>>> system but which is on top of Debian. I have some user shepherd
>>> services. They still work as I'm writing this. I think this is
>>> unsupported though.
>>>=20
>>>=20* I tried to install a guix system to a thumb drive. It is inconven=
ient
>>> to use the ISO so I decided to do it from Guix on top of Debian. When=
 I
>>=20
>>=20I personally do not understand your usecase. For me, installing the
>> guix system installer on a usb is as simple as:
>>=20
>>=20wget https://path/to/guix/installer.iso
>> sudo dd if=3Dinstaller.iso of=3D/dev/sdb status=3Dprogress && sync
>>=20
>>=20I would rather do than than to try to build a custom iso image. :)
>=20
>=20I'd rather have a bootable and rw system on a thumbdrive than an ISO
> image which is a ro system which loads itself in RAM. Changes don't
> survive reboots, that's what I find inconvenient with an ISO image.

That is kind of cool to have a bootable rw iso that you can update!

>=20
>=20But anyway now I think I understand that I don't need to mount the st=
ore
> copy-on-write when the installing (and booted) sytem has a rw store. At
> least I think so, I'll try next time. It means what I did last time was
> probably unnecessary to begin with.
>=20
>>=20Also do you wanna just take the plunge and install guix system?
>>=20
>>=20It's super worth it!
>>=20
>>=20It has been the most stable distro that I have ever used.
>=20
>=20I know it's much better with Guix system. But I'll need some time.
> Because I live in a country where VPNs are a necessity but are supposed
> to be licensed, I have my own homebrew VPN on Debian using ssh, sysvini=
t
> and a bunch of horribly dirty shell scripts and cron tasks. It is
> probably possible to achieve a much better VPN system with shepherd, bu=
t
> it's a programming task, I'm trying to do it. It's actually both
> a motivation to migrate my main computer to Guix... and the reason why =
I
> can't do it right now.

I personally use sway.  Everytime that I install guix system now,
I install bare-bones.scm first.  Then after it is installed, I set up
sway.  I have tried to install gnome.scm before, and network issues=20
caused=20it to fail half way through like 3+ times.

>=20
>>=20Thanks,
>>=20
>>=20Joshua

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thanks

# Closing old "guix pull" bugs, which are often network related,
# and in any case not actionable any more.
#
# If you experience similar problems now, please open a new issue on
# codeberg.
#
# Andreas

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