GNU logs - #58150, boring messages

Message sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:

Subject: bug#58150: 29.0.50; parse_tool_bar_item should not usually upcase "and"
Resent-From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:03:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.58150.B.166439536532695 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
To: 58150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Feedback-ID: i23c04076:Fastmail
From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:02:31 -0700
Message-ID: <87mtajqnc8.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.24;
 envelope-from=spwhitton@HIDDEN; helo=wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com
X-Spam_score_int: -27
X-Spam_score: -2.8
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1,
 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,
 SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--)

Hello,

In a Gnus summary buffer, there is a toolbar button "Reply And Yank".

It should be labelled "Reply and Yank" (or "Reply and yank").

The call to upcase-initials in parse_tool_bar_item in keyboard.c is
responsible.  How about adding an exception for the word "and"?  It's
pretty jarring to see on the toolbar.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Message sent:

Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
Subject: bug#58150: Acknowledgement (29.0.50; parse_tool_bar_item should
 not usually upcase "and")
Message-ID: <handler.58150.B.166439536532695.ack <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
References: <87mtajqnc8.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Gnu-PR-Message: ack 58150
X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs
Reply-To: 58150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:03:02 +0000

Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to 58150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@HIDDEN unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
58150: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D58150
GNU Bug Tracking System
Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems

Message sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:

Subject: bug#58150: 29.0.50; parse_tool_bar_item should not usually upcase "and"
Resent-From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:40:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.58150.B58150.16643975443906 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
To: 58150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Feedback-ID: i23c04076:Fastmail
From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
In-Reply-To: <87mtajqnc8.fsf@HIDDEN> (Sean Whitton's message
 of "Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:02:31 -0700")
References: <87mtajqnc8.fsf@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:38:50 -0700
Message-ID: <87y1u3p739.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Precedence: list
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>

Hello,

On Wed 28 Sep 2022 at 01:02PM -07, Sean Whitton wrote:

> In a Gnus summary buffer, there is a toolbar button "Reply And Yank".
>
> It should be labelled "Reply and Yank" (or "Reply and yank").
>
> The call to upcase-initials in parse_tool_bar_item in keyboard.c is
> responsible.  How about adding an exception for the word "and"?  It's
> pretty jarring to see on the toolbar.

There is also "Edit From Gnus" which should be "Exit from Gnus".

One possibility is a defcustom to only upcase the very first character.
Maybe it should even be t by default: this will produce more correct
results than the current scheme.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Message sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:

Subject: bug#58150: 29.0.50; parse_tool_bar_item should not usually upcase "and"
Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:03:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.58150.B58150.166444933410667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>
Cc: 58150 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
In-Reply-To: <87y1u3p739.fsf@HIDDEN> (Sean Whitton's message
 of "Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:38:50 -0700")
References: <87mtajqnc8.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <87y1u3p739.fsf@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 13:02:01 +0200
Message-ID: <87bkqyiguu.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Precedence: list
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>

Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> writes:

> One possibility is a defcustom to only upcase the very first character.
> Maybe it should even be t by default: this will produce more correct
> results than the current scheme.

I think the upcasing should be removed, and the tool bar labels should
be capitalised properly to begin with.  That requires somebody to do a
review of this first, and fix the tool bar definitions, though.  Like:

    (define-key map [isearch-occur]
      (list 'menu-item "Show hits" 'isearch-occur
            :help "Show each search hit"
            :image '(isearch-tool-bar-image "index")))

Should be "Show Hits" etc.

Otherwise somebody could, of course, just write a function that
capitalises titles correctly according to one or other of the English
title capitalisation standards -- which isn't difficult, and would be
generally useful.

Last modified: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:15:02 UTC

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.