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There is problem when Emacs runs in separate instance while other
instance is running:

1. I launch one instance, and have there heavy process running and
 processing items. Because instance is fully busy, I launch new
 instance.

2. In the new instance when running kill-new I get errors like: Timed
out waiting for reply from selection owner

3. Other applications have no problem selecting, pasting, copying.


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Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes:

> There is problem when Emacs runs in separate instance while other
> instance is running:
>
> 1. I launch one instance, and have there heavy process running and
>  processing items. Because instance is fully busy, I launch new
>  instance.

This is a well known problem with our selection code that cannot be
easily fixed.  Process filters get to run while responding to selection
events, and (alongside the first Emacs instance being under high load in
general) can disrupt selection data transfer long enough for the second
instance to time out.

If the first instance is actually completely hung, then in addition
SelectionRequest events will never be read from the keyboard buffer, and
it will never get a chance to process selection requests at all.  I
don't see us ever being able to do anything about that problem.

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> Cc: 58505 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:23:29 +0800
> From:  Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > There is problem when Emacs runs in separate instance while other
> > instance is running:
> >
> > 1. I launch one instance, and have there heavy process running and
> >  processing items. Because instance is fully busy, I launch new
> >  instance.
> 
> This is a well known problem with our selection code that cannot be
> easily fixed.  Process filters get to run while responding to selection
> events, and (alongside the first Emacs instance being under high load in
> general) can disrupt selection data transfer long enough for the second
> instance to time out.

The solution, of course, is to never run more than a single Emacs
session on the same machine.

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* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> [2022-10-14 09:27]:
> The solution, of course, is to never run more than a single Emacs
> session on the same machine.

That is isolated solution for users who do not use Emacs Lisp for
heavy or continues processing of data.

Would process that runs in console or as batch also cause this
problem?

Is there a way in a single instance to disable something, so that
selection whatever is disabled during processing, so that other
instance is not disturbed?

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> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 07:11:01 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 58505 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> * Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> [2022-10-14 09:27]:
> > The solution, of course, is to never run more than a single Emacs
> > session on the same machine.
> 
> That is isolated solution for users who do not use Emacs Lisp for
> heavy or continues processing of data.

I disagree with this assertion.  You can organize your heavy
computation such that it never runs when you need an interactive
session, or run such computation in a sub-process (that could also be
Emacs, just one running in batch mode), or any number of other
solutions.  You just need to realize that having just one interactive
Emacs session at a time is much more important than the other
considerations, and change your priorities accordingly.

> Would process that runs in console or as batch also cause this
> problem?

I don't think so, no.

> Is there a way in a single instance to disable something, so that
> selection whatever is disabled during processing, so that other
> instance is not disturbed?

You can disable interprogram-paste-function, but why would you want
to?

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* Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> [2022-10-15 10:39]:
> > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 07:11:01 +0300
> > From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 58505 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > * Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> [2022-10-14 09:27]:
> > > The solution, of course, is to never run more than a single Emacs
> > > session on the same machine.
> > 
> > That is isolated solution for users who do not use Emacs Lisp for
> > heavy or continues processing of data.
> 
> I disagree with this assertion.  You can organize your heavy
> computation such that it never runs when you need an interactive
> session, or run such computation in a sub-process (that could also be
> Emacs, just one running in batch mode), or any number of other
> solutions.  You just need to realize that having just one interactive
> Emacs session at a time is much more important than the other
> considerations, and change your priorities accordingly.

That is exactly what I do, I span one Emacs session as separate
instance. What I do not understand is how that separate instance may
disturb the new instance to yank or use selections. I do not know if
it wants to use selections, but similar wording was written in
messages. I hope you understand it better. Other X programs do not
have the problem in copying or pasting while Emacs is processing
information in the database.

> > Would process that runs in console or as batch also cause this
> > problem?
> 
> I don't think so, no.
> 
> > Is there a way in a single instance to disable something, so that
> > selection whatever is disabled during processing, so that other
> > instance is not disturbed?
> 
> You can disable interprogram-paste-function, but why would you want
> to?

The bug report is the reason why I would want it. When Emacs is
processing heavy data, I do not write nothing in that instance, I
cannot access the instance, it is blocked due to processing. That is
fine. But then I want to use other instance, and that other instance,
the interactive one, gets disturbed because during the processing of
the first instance something is happening and second instance,
supposed to be free, is not free for work.

Thus I guess if I disable interprogram-paste-function in the
processing instance, new instance should not have problems.

I have tested it now. It does not work. I have disabled both
variables, interprogram-paste and cut function, and I have spanned new
Emacs instance.

I get this error again:

gui-get-selection: (error "Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner")
Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner

I wish to disable it in the instance processing with Emacs Lisp, not
in the one which I need for interactive usage.

What else is possible to do to make it work?

My Emacs is supposed to run 24 hours processing advertising
information.

Processing instance screenshot:
https://gnu.support/images/2022/10/2022-10-16/2022-10-16-15:35:07.png

That frame I do not touch as Emacs is not responsive, it just does Emacs Lisp.


Jean

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Then as I've repeatedly asked, please build Emacs with TRACE_SELECTION
defined in xselect.c, and show the printout when it times out.

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>  You can disable interprogram-paste-function, but why would you want

> to?

Are there any downsizes to disabling in `noninteractive` sessions only (if I have
control there)?

This bug is killing me as sometimes even when all other Emacs instances are
killed, copying and pasting still hangs Emacs until I log out of the DE and log
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Are there any downsizes to disabling in `noninteractive` sessions only (if I have
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This bug is killing me as sometimes even when all other Emacs instances are
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> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 00:52:25 +0700
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> 
> >  You can disable interprogram-paste-function, but why would you want 
> 
> > to?
> 
> Are there any downsizes to disabling in `noninteractive` sessions only (if I have
> control there)?

If you don't care about copy/paste to or from other applications,
none.

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