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[PATCH] small history doc change: the name change was suggested by Lee Thomas

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Package: guile;

Reported by: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>

Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 21:46:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Done: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>

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From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>
To: bug-guile <at> gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH] small history doc change: the name change was suggested by
 Lee Thomas
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:06:17 +0100
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Hi,

since I collected references from various newsgroups, I’d like to
suggest this change to the history part of the docs: the name change to
Guile was suggested by Lee Thomas.

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From e00afe1654773ac4e5eebe2e3ec4f0186c23d1f9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab <at> web.de>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 01:57:57 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] doc: Lee Thomas suggested the name change.

See (1994-11-04) https://groups.google.com/g/gnu.misc.discuss/c/0VtEf1fgEJk/m/IMBs2o-ftrgJ
> If GEL and GUL and GLUE don't work for the name of the scripting
> language, how about:
>
> GUILE - GNU's Universal Interpreted Language Extension
>
> (This also implies Scheme-ing, and means that the GNU's Universal
> Interpreted Language Developers would be part of a ...)
> --
> Lee Thomas

and (1994-11-22) https://groups.google.com/g/gnu.misc.discuss/c/9pD9yVoRYFw/m/0z7SLYbx8loJ
> Why "GUILE"? (GNU's Universal Interpreted Language Extension)
> Two additional reasons:
>
> 1. It does not give deliberate offense to Dr. Ousterhout or his
> supporters, thereby allowing the warring factions to eventually
> make peace (along with some others, perhaps - Gloria's 'Usband Is
> Linguistically Educated) and get back to work.
> 2. By pronunciation it offers appreciation to one of the co-inventors
> of Scheme. (Maybe a library package could be named "Scheme User
> Supported System Macros And Native-code"? OK, that's a stretch ...)
> --
> Lee Thomas,

and https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.scheme/c/X5GrLVAvGLU/m/Xk11xCrbzCcJ
> A while back, I started calling the language being built by the GNU Project
> GEL. It turns out that GEL is a trademark of Sybase Inc. Therefore,
> we must choose a new name. Please do not refer to the GNU language
> as GEL.
>
> My favorite proposed name, posted recently to comp.lang.scheme, is GUILE.
> I like the name, because i think programmers should be encouraged to use
> GUILE when writing programs. The name may change yet again; but for now,
> please refer to the GNU language as GUILE.
>
> -t
---
 doc/ref/history.texi | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/doc/ref/history.texi b/doc/ref/history.texi
index d351455a5..60d839ac3 100644
--- a/doc/ref/history.texi
+++ b/doc/ref/history.texi
@@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ the argument was that eventually when GEL became more capable, it
 could gain the ability to execute other languages, especially Emacs
 Lisp.
 
-Due to a naming conflict with another programming language, Jim Blandy
+Due to a naming conflict with another programming language, Lee Thomas
 suggested a new name for GEL: ``Guile''. Besides being a recursive
 acronym, ``Guile'' craftily follows the naming of its ancestors,
 ``Planner'', ``Conniver'', and ``Schemer''. (The latter was truncated
-- 
2.38.0

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Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.de
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From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>
To: request <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 59204 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Duplicate of bug#57440 — sorry for that, I
 still had it in my patch
 list and saw that it did not get killed on pull+rebase so I thought I had
 forgotten to send it.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:46:56 +0100
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close 59204
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.de
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