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* guix/lint.scm (check-end-of-sentence-space): Improve message.
---
guix/lint.scm | 3 ++-
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/guix/lint.scm b/guix/lint.scm
index 8e3976171f..37a9539e2c 100644
--- a/guix/lint.scm
+++ b/guix/lint.scm
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@
;;; Copyright © 2021 Xinglu Chen <public@HIDDEN>
;;; Copyright © 2021, 2022 Maxime Devos <maximedevos@HIDDEN>
;;; Copyright © 2021 Brice Waegeneire <brice@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2022 jgart <jgart@HIDDEN>
;;;
;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
;;;
@@ -409,7 +410,7 @@ (define (check-end-of-sentence-space description)
(list
(make-warning package
(G_ "sentences in description should be followed ~
-by two spaces; possible infraction~p at ~{~a~^, ~}")
+by two spaces due to issues wth Emacs; possible infraction~p at ~{~a~^, ~}")
(list (length infractions)
infractions)
#:field 'description)))))
--
2.38.1
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:10:02 +0000 help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System) wrote:
> Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org.
Hi Arun,
Not sure if you remember that conversation we had about the linter
warning regarding emacs and having to use two spaces in description
field sentences.
Would you mind recapping the issue so that I can improve this message further.
What I wrote is currently vague:
Why do the sentences in the description field have to be separated by two spaces due to Emacs?
all best,
jgart
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Hi,
jgart <jgart@HIDDEN> skribis:
> * guix/lint.scm (check-end-of-sentence-space): Improve message.
[...]
> -by two spaces; possible infraction~p at ~{~a~^, ~}")
> +by two spaces due to issues wth Emacs; possible infraction~p at ~{~a~^, =
~}")
Probably the two-space story needs an explanation, but what about adding
it to the manual, with a cross-ref to the relevant Emacs manual section?
Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Hi jgart,
> Not sure if you remember that conversation we had about the linter
> warning regarding emacs and having to use two spaces in description
> field sentences.
Yes, I remember the conversation.
> Would you mind recapping the issue so that I can improve this message
> further.
My original point was that the linter should not simply complain about
the absence of double spaces but also explain why double spaces are
required. Double spaces are required because Emacs sentence commands
such as M-a and M-e only work when sentences are separated by double
spaces. To be honest, I would consider this an Emacs bug. But, it's
probably impossible to achieve consensus on such a bold claim. ;-)
So, at the very least, the Guix linter should explain why double spaces
are required. As a general rule for all linter messages, contributors
will be happier when the linter explains the rationale for various
messages. Most people don't like doing things without understanding why
they have to do them.
Regards,
Arun
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Hi Arun,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 20:58, Arun Isaac <arunisaac@HIDDEN> wrote:
> My original point was that the linter should not simply complain about
> the absence of double spaces but also explain why double spaces are
> required. Double spaces are required because Emacs sentence commands
> such as M-a and M-e only work when sentences are separated by double
> spaces. To be honest, I would consider this an Emacs bug. But, it's
> probably impossible to achieve consensus on such a bold claim. ;-)
Indeed, it is impossible to achieve consensus since it is probably not
an Emacs bug but an historical inheritance of typographical convention,
see [1,2].
1: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing>
2: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sentence_spacing>
> So, at the very least, the Guix linter should explain why double spaces
> are required. As a general rule for all linter messages, contributors
> will be happier when the linter explains the rationale for various
> messages. Most people don't like doing things without understanding why
> they have to do them.
Well, maybe a paragraph in the manual under =E2=80=99(guix) Synopses and
Descriptions=E2=80=99 is a better location for such explanations than the l=
inter
message itself. WDYT?
Cheers,
simon
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> Well, maybe a paragraph in the manual under =E2=80=99(guix) Synopses and
> Descriptions=E2=80=99 is a better location for such explanations than the=
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> message itself. WDYT?
That sounds good. Detailed explanations do belong in the manual. But,
the linter CLI output should link to the relevant section of the web
manual. That would be better than sending people hunting in the
manual. Many good linters for other programming languages do do this.
Cheers!
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Hi,
Arun Isaac <arunisaac@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Well, maybe a paragraph in the manual under =E2=80=99(guix) Synopses and
>> Descriptions=E2=80=99 is a better location for such explanations than th=
e linter
>> message itself. WDYT?
>
> That sounds good. Detailed explanations do belong in the manual. But,
> the linter CLI output should link to the relevant section of the web
> manual. That would be better than sending people hunting in the
> manual. Many good linters for other programming languages do do this.
Instead of a bug in Emacs, I'd say it's rather a convention, rooted in
the fact that without the two-spaces trick, how would you reliably
locate the end of a sentence? A period followed by a capital letter
might happen in the middle of a sentence, which makes it ambiguous.
Note that two-spaces also exists as a typographical convention, called
"double sentence spacing". Here's some interesting quote from the
Wikipedia page [0]:
The text-editing environment in Emacs uses a double space following a
period to identify the end of sentences unambiguously; the
double-space convention prevents confusion with periods within
sentences that signify abbreviations. How Emacs recognizes the end of
a sentence is controlled by the settings sentence-end-double-space
and sentence-end.[71]
The Unix typesetter program Troff uses two spaces to mark the end of
a sentence.[72] This allows the typesetter to distinguish sentence
endings from abbreviations and to typeset them differently. Early
versions of Troff,[72] which only typeset in fixed-width fonts, would
automatically add a second space between sentences, which were
detected based on the combination of terminal punctuation and a line
feed.
Personally, I'd prefer not having explanations directly in the output of
Guix lint; it should be terse, as it's involved often and repeatedly.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing
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Thanks,
Maxim
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