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29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change

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From: Merrick Luo <merrick <at> luois.me>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:24:56 +0800

Hi,

I recently find this while debugging with lsp-mode, when calling
`time-since` with nil, the returned value is a alist instead of list,
which breaks some expectation in the code.

in emacs 29:

(time-since 0) => (25469 55305 800045 582000)
(time-since "2022-11-11") => (16 47157 285760 427000)
(time-since nil) => (0 . 1000000000)

in emacs 28:

(time-since nil) => (0 0 0 0)


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Message #8 received at 59506 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
To: Merrick Luo <merrick <at> luois.me>
Cc: 59506 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59506: 29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:13:38 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

In most cases, nil is assumed to be the current time. `time-subtract' is
doing that here.

It could be "fixed" so

diff --git i/lisp/calendar/time-date.el w/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
index bbdcaa4db4..27ce10d7d6 100644
--- i/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
+++ w/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
@@ -200,5 +200,5 @@ time-since
     ;; Convert date strings to internal time.
     (setq time (date-to-time time)))
-  (time-subtract nil time))
+  (time-subtract nil (or time (current-time))))

 ;;;###autoload

but that would make the result inconsistent:

ELISP> (time-since nil)
(0 0 0 0)

ELISP> (time-since nil)
(0 0 1 0)

I'm not sure that's better. And you can always do

(time-since (or time (current-time)))

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #11 received at 59506 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: merrick <at> luois.me, 59506 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59506: 29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:09:30 +0200

> Cc: 59506 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:13:38 +0100
> 
> In most cases, nil is assumed to be the current time. `time-subtract' is doing that here.

Adding Paul.  Paul, any comments?

> It could be "fixed" so
> 
> diff --git i/lisp/calendar/time-date.el w/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
> index bbdcaa4db4..27ce10d7d6 100644
> --- i/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
> +++ w/lisp/calendar/time-date.el
> @@ -200,5 +200,5 @@ time-since
>      ;; Convert date strings to internal time.
>      (setq time (date-to-time time)))
> -  (time-subtract nil time))
> +  (time-subtract nil (or time (current-time))))
>  
>  ;;;###autoload
> 
> but that would make the result inconsistent:
> 
> ELISP> (time-since nil)
> (0 0 0 0)
> 
> ELISP> (time-since nil)
> (0 0 1 0)
> 
> I'm not sure that's better. And you can always do 
> 
> (time-since (or time (current-time)))

Message #16 received at 59506-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>, merrick <at> luois.me,
 59506-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59506: 29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 13:03:07 -0800

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On 2022-11-23 05:09, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Paul, any comments?

lsp-mode was buggy even with traditional Emacs timestamps like (0 0 0 0) 
because it mishandled millisecond counts. With new Emacs timestamps like 
(0 . 1000000000) lsp-mode signaled an error, exposing the bug. The 
problem has been fixed in bleeding-edge lsp-mode here:

https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/commit/e5a6274fac076f0d74a6ca892467be66a90a9649

and to forestall similar problems elsewhere I installed the attached 
patch into GNU Emacs master on Savannah.

[0001-Work-around-lsp-mode-compatibility-bug.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

Message #19 received at 59506-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: lekktu <at> gmail.com, merrick <at> luois.me, 59506-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59506: 29.0.50; (time-since nil) return format change
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 08:50:34 +0200

> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 13:03:07 -0800
> Cc: merrick <at> luois.me, 59506-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>  Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
> 
> On 2022-11-23 05:09, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Paul, any comments?
> 
> lsp-mode was buggy even with traditional Emacs timestamps like (0 0 0 0) 
> because it mishandled millisecond counts. With new Emacs timestamps like 
> (0 . 1000000000) lsp-mode signaled an error, exposing the bug. The 
> problem has been fixed in bleeding-edge lsp-mode here:
> 
> https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/commit/e5a6274fac076f0d74a6ca892467be66a90a9649
> 
> and to forestall similar problems elsewhere I installed the attached 
> patch into GNU Emacs master on Savannah.

Thanks.

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