Received: (at 59546) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2022 14:57:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 16 09:57:06 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49833 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p6C94-0006cF-5K for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:57:06 -0500 Received: from tilde.team ([198.50.210.248]:40638 ident=postfix) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1p6C8z-0006bp-Pl; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:57:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tilde.team; s=mail; t=1671202620; bh=ZooqSOBo8z2qMZni61tSBbEpYhl+wFXeVfb70CO/GN4=; h=Date:Cc:Subject:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=fQL+G8i9XO8/8GYaJY/JHcQEFY9EXFJTxgRaoQpqUp+bbZ86/dKxH3FwibXuxyskP 1GWI399BcRtxjFKEfnN/s/oaGnSm7f7Yk4wApPIjvpDJySLfVOJFizvZcHxYLPumQ/ 5y4i7qauwzebp84N38/ujpfEVa06tAW2rUtvCsnw= Received: from localhost (unknown [63.228.59.248]) by tilde.team (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EB794C0966; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 08:56:59 -0600 Message-Id: <CP3BVWRQA1HB.1QVYWNEFR5DJ2@masaki> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites From: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> To: "Maxim Cournoyer" <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: aerc 0.11.0 References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> <87a63odci7.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2L93WABQAU.20C8GMOFY5Y0H@masaki> <87bko3bhkx.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87bko3bhkx.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546 Cc: 59546 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri Dec 16, 2022 at 7:31 AM CST, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Thanks for sharing. It looks like we have something to investigate. > It's perhaps related to the way we build qtwebengine; do these sites > work in ungoogled-chromium for you? Just tested in ungoogled-chromium, and yes it seems both gitlab and livechart worked fine, passing the brower checks quickly on my Guix System machine. Very interesting. I tried copying the user agent from ungoogled-chromium (similar but slightly different from the qutebrowser default) but it didn't seem to make a difference.
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[66.158.159.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d136-20020ae9ef8e000000b006fef157c8aesm1465010qkg.36.2022.12.16.05.31.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 16 Dec 2022 05:31:43 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> <87a63odci7.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2L93WABQAU.20C8GMOFY5Y0H@masaki> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 08:31:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <CP2L93WABQAU.20C8GMOFY5Y0H@masaki> (bdju@HIDDEN's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:04:44 -0600") Message-ID: <87bko3bhkx.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546 Cc: 59546 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) reopen 59546 quit Hello, "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> writes: > On Thu Dec 15, 2022 at 7:26 AM CST, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> That's a good lead; could you please test qutebrowser in Guix vs >> qutebrowser on another distribution yourself and confirm this hypothesis >> (that it works elsewhere?), and post your finings here? If you can do >> that and post your finding, I we can reopen the ticket, as we'll have >> something actionable to look at. >> > > I'm able to pass the browser check in a matter of seconds and log in to > GitLab from my PineBook Pro running postmarketOS (Alpine-based) using > qutebrowser. > > Here is the :version output from the working qutebrowser: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > qutebrowser v2.5.2 > Git commit: > Backend: QtWebEngine 5.15.3, based on Chromium 87.0.4280.144 > Qt: 5.15.6 > > CPython: 3.11.1 > PyQt: 5.15.7 > > sip: 6.6.2 > colorama: 0.4.6 > jinja2: 3.1.2 > pygments: 2.13.0 > yaml: 6.0 > adblock: 0.6.0 > PyQt5.QtWebEngineWidgets: yes > PyQt5.QtWebEngine: 5.15.6 > PyQt5.QtWebKitWidgets: no > pdf.js: no > sqlite: 3.40.0 > QtNetwork SSL: OpenSSL 3.0.7 1 Nov 2022 > > Style: QFusionStyle > Platform plugin: wayland > OpenGL: OpenGL ES > Platform: Linux-5.18.0-aarch64-with, 64bit > Linux distribution: postmarketOS edge (alpine) > Frozen: False > Imported from /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/qutebrowser > Using Python from /usr/bin/python3 > Qt library executable path: /usr/lib/qt5/libexec, data path: /usr/share/qt5 > > Paths: > cache: /home/bdju/.cache/qutebrowser > config: /home/bdju/.config/qutebrowser > data: /home/bdju/.local/share/qutebrowser > runtime: /run/user/10001/qutebrowser > system data: /usr/share/qutebrowser > > Autoconfig loaded: no > Config.py: /home/bdju/.config/qutebrowser/config.py has been loaded > Uptime: 0:02:55 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > guix version info for comparison: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > qutebrowser v2.5.2 > Git commit: > Backend: QtWebEngine 5.15.5, based on Chromium 87.0.4280.144 > Qt: 5.15.5 > > CPython: 3.9.9 > PyQt: 5.15.5 > > sip: 6.6.1 > colorama: 0.4.4 > jinja2: 3.1.1 > pygments: 2.12.0 > yaml: 6.0 > adblock: no > PyQt5.QtWebEngineWidgets: yes > PyQt5.QtWebEngine: 5.15.5 > PyQt5.QtWebKitWidgets: no > pdf.js: no > sqlite: 3.36.0 > QtNetwork SSL: OpenSSL 1.1.1s 1 Nov 2022 > > Style: QFusionStyle > Platform plugin: xcb > OpenGL: Intel Open Source Technology Center, 3.0 Mesa 21.3.8 > Platform: Linux-6.0.8-gnu-x86_64-with-glibc2.33, 64bit > Linux distribution: Guix System (unknown) > Frozen: False > Imported from > /gnu/store/675pkhpvbvi0yai1bggkkaj3h1xy2xrb-qutebrowser-2.5.2/lib/python3.9/site-packages/qutebrowser > Using Python from > /gnu/store/avmnzy8djp42r5926cwznz6ls9gablf8-python-wrapper-3.9.9/bin/python > Qt library executable path: > /gnu/store/mgkd6lgihvqv9n1rlsqfv2rv0zq9whnh-qtbase-5.15.5/lib/qt5/libexec, > data path: > /gnu/store/mgkd6lgihvqv9n1rlsqfv2rv0zq9whnh-qtbase-5.15.5/share/qt5 > OS Version: > > --- /etc/os-release --- > NAME="Guix System" > ID=guix > PRETTY_NAME="Guix System" > LOGO=guix-icon > DOCUMENTATION_URL="https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual" > > Paths: > cache: /home/brad/.cache/qutebrowser > config: /home/brad/.config/qutebrowser > data: /home/brad/.local/share/qutebrowser > runtime: /run/user/1000/qutebrowser > > Autoconfig loaded: no > Config.py: /home/brad/.config/qutebrowser/config.py has been loaded > Uptime: 1 day, 3:11:30 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for sharing. It looks like we have something to investigate. It's perhaps related to the way we build qtwebengine; do these sites work in ungoogled-chromium for you? Re-opening! -- Thanks, Maxim
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Full text available.Received: (at 59546) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2022 18:04:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 15 13:04:49 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44074 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p5sbA-0005Zl-P7 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 13:04:49 -0500 Received: from tilde.team ([198.50.210.248]:49984 ident=postfix) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1p5sb7-0005Zf-TE for 59546 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 13:04:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tilde.team; s=mail; t=1671127485; bh=rcy4bf/4MqnzZtWD41nmC5vAuTTKYIXRouMWKQwtIzM=; h=Date:To:Cc:Subject:From:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=BPr9zcY2GTkdrnkwSjI0KNy5iosO4/jFdrd+0exLt47yhDHRdy+6bJI3CBhYGbq7L 2miMyA56e8akcqLe6FJFW4IzNXtIW5KA73F9QwAgykzkh9eym43bYhghIcx2YvccAO A2oKwWJmI6CBxlkTJha/kZ6AMOJ1hMSBMirJ63r4= Received: from localhost (unknown [63.228.59.248]) by tilde.team (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6A374C059D; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 18:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:04:44 -0600 Message-Id: <CP2L93WABQAU.20C8GMOFY5Y0H@masaki> To: "Maxim Cournoyer" <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites From: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: aerc 0.11.0 References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> <87a63odci7.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87a63odci7.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546 Cc: 59546 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu Dec 15, 2022 at 7:26 AM CST, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > That's a good lead; could you please test qutebrowser in Guix vs > qutebrowser on another distribution yourself and confirm this hypothesis > (that it works elsewhere?), and post your finings here? If you can do > that and post your finding, I we can reopen the ticket, as we'll have > something actionable to look at. > I'm able to pass the browser check in a matter of seconds and log in to GitLab from my PineBook Pro running postmarketOS (Alpine-based) using qutebrowser. Here is the :version output from the working qutebrowser: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ qutebrowser v2.5.2 Git commit: Backend: QtWebEngine 5.15.3, based on Chromium 87.0.4280.144 Qt: 5.15.6 CPython: 3.11.1 PyQt: 5.15.7 sip: 6.6.2 colorama: 0.4.6 jinja2: 3.1.2 pygments: 2.13.0 yaml: 6.0 adblock: 0.6.0 PyQt5.QtWebEngineWidgets: yes PyQt5.QtWebEngine: 5.15.6 PyQt5.QtWebKitWidgets: no pdf.js: no sqlite: 3.40.0 QtNetwork SSL: OpenSSL 3.0.7 1 Nov 2022 Style: QFusionStyle Platform plugin: wayland OpenGL: OpenGL ES Platform: Linux-5.18.0-aarch64-with, 64bit Linux distribution: postmarketOS edge (alpine) Frozen: False Imported from /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/qutebrowser Using Python from /usr/bin/python3 Qt library executable path: /usr/lib/qt5/libexec, data path: /usr/share/qt5 Paths: cache: /home/bdju/.cache/qutebrowser config: /home/bdju/.config/qutebrowser data: /home/bdju/.local/share/qutebrowser runtime: /run/user/10001/qutebrowser system data: /usr/share/qutebrowser Autoconfig loaded: no Config.py: /home/bdju/.config/qutebrowser/config.py has been loaded Uptime: 0:02:55 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ guix version info for comparison: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ qutebrowser v2.5.2 Git commit:=20 Backend: QtWebEngine 5.15.5, based on Chromium 87.0.4280.144 Qt: 5.15.5 CPython: 3.9.9 PyQt: 5.15.5 sip: 6.6.1 colorama: 0.4.4 jinja2: 3.1.1 pygments: 2.12.0 yaml: 6.0 adblock: no PyQt5.QtWebEngineWidgets: yes PyQt5.QtWebEngine: 5.15.5 PyQt5.QtWebKitWidgets: no pdf.js: no sqlite: 3.36.0 QtNetwork SSL: OpenSSL 1.1.1s 1 Nov 2022 Style: QFusionStyle Platform plugin: xcb OpenGL: Intel Open Source Technology Center, 3.0 Mesa 21.3.8 Platform: Linux-6.0.8-gnu-x86_64-with-glibc2.33, 64bit Linux distribution: Guix System (unknown) Frozen: False Imported from /gnu/store/675pkhpvbvi0yai1bggkkaj3h1xy2xrb-qutebrowser-2.5.2/lib/python3.9= /site-packages/qutebrowser Using Python from /gnu/store/avmnzy8djp42r5926cwznz6ls9gablf8-python-wrapper-3.9.9/bin/python Qt library executable path: /gnu/store/mgkd6lgihvqv9n1rlsqfv2rv0zq9whnh-qtbase-5.15.5/lib/qt5/libexec, data path: /gnu/store/mgkd6lgihvqv9n1rlsqfv2rv0zq9whnh-qtbase-5.15.5/share/qt5 OS Version:=20 --- /etc/os-release --- NAME=3D"Guix System" ID=3Dguix PRETTY_NAME=3D"Guix System" LOGO=3Dguix-icon DOCUMENTATION_URL=3D"https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual" Paths: cache: /home/brad/.cache/qutebrowser config: /home/brad/.config/qutebrowser data: /home/brad/.local/share/qutebrowser runtime: /run/user/1000/qutebrowser Autoconfig loaded: no Config.py: /home/brad/.config/qutebrowser/config.py has been loaded Uptime: 1 day, 3:11:30 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#59546; Package guix.
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[72.10.129.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bb21-20020a05622a1b1500b003999d25e772sm3422477qtb.71.2022.12.15.05.26.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Dec 2022 05:26:09 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:26:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> (bdju@HIDDEN's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:39:54 -0600") Message-ID: <87a63odci7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546 Cc: 59546 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> writes: [...] >> I've had that too with Gitlab when using Icecat. Sadly, it has nothing >> to do with Guix but with how Cloudfare and the website identifies >> browsers. >> >> For example, I had found out that by using a Windows Firefox 83 user >> agent, I was able to login into Gitlab (using this plugin: >> https://gitlab.com/ntninja/user-agent-switcher). I reported the issue >> to Gitlab, and they could apparently fixed it on their side (not yet >> deployed) [0] >> >> [0] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/345328 >> >> I think other sites or CloudFare must be similarly faulty, or require >> fingerprinting which is guarded against out-of-the-box in IceCat. >> >> Closing, as I doubt Guix has something to do with it. If you find >> something to the contrary, let us know! > I too have fixed it in the past by switching my user agent. I opened and > closed a similar bug some months or years back. That solution stopped > working. I have consulted with folks in the qutebrowser IRC about this > issue several times and it is not affecting everyone there, so it > definitely seems guix-related to me. Something about our packages must > make the browser(s) look odd to these infernal browser checks. That's a good lead; could you please test qutebrowser in Guix vs qutebrowser on another distribution yourself and confirm this hypothesis (that it works elsewhere?), and post your finings here? If you can do that and post your finding, I we can reopen the ticket, as we'll have something actionable to look at. -- Thanks, Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#59546; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 59546-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2022 12:40:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 15 07:40:00 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p5nWq-0005Rg-7W for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 07:40:00 -0500 Received: from tilde.team ([198.50.210.248]:43964 ident=postfix) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1p5nWm-0005Ra-Bv for 59546-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 07:39:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tilde.team; s=mail; t=1671107995; bh=l/IEmOUQa0sf3ltw3wg6He82oDKb+vfpKVuUTVeckkc=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ab7gJV+0yok5QDSH9vo2XXIiKvH5eaBYgO/9hy3TsZUL6PL2LlNp9hSA/232edHJT pNwICL5JGk21B2LNpYkoJwbtvkZ8YaY7UcNymgRcmHy2O1eaBjZHs9xfH4Dx8gjCOV DO+oaRcen0puJBvojwIMisFaRy81EL6g3Vb5fTYs= Received: from localhost (unknown [63.228.59.248]) by tilde.team (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D8CA4C092E; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:39:54 -0600 Message-Id: <CP2ECEKHJ266.2YZBFAJ7Z2ZP9@masaki> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites From: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> To: "Maxim Cournoyer" <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: aerc 0.11.0 References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546-done Cc: 59546-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed Dec 14, 2022 at 10:32 PM CST, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, > > "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I have hit this issue before, but not in a while. I don't know for sure > > when the issue came back as it only matters for the initial login or > > visit of the offending sites, so if you manage to get past you'll be > > good until your cookie expires or gets deleted somehow. I got logged ou= t > > of many sites in qutebrowser recently and was made aware of the issue > > being back. I also tested in icecat where some sites I still had a > > cookie, but I managed to find one with a browser check and it indeed > > never completes (can leave it open hours or even more than a day). > > > Some sites to test with include: > > https://www.livechart.me/ (must click login button, main page works) > > https://www.gitlab.com/ (again must click log in to start the check) > > > > Since this is happening in both icecat and qutebrowser with different > > user agents and everything, I suspect a guix-related issue. I found tha= t > > at least one other person on IRC was also experiencing the infinite > > browser checks. I use a few sites daily that are now unusable on my Gui= x > > System machine due to these browser checks, so a fix would be very much > > appreciated if anyone could figure this out. > > I've had that too with Gitlab when using Icecat. Sadly, it has nothing > to do with Guix but with how Cloudfare and the website identifies > browsers. > > For example, I had found out that by using a Windows Firefox 83 user > agent, I was able to login into Gitlab (using this plugin: > https://gitlab.com/ntninja/user-agent-switcher). I reported the issue > to Gitlab, and they could apparently fixed it on their side (not yet > deployed) [0] > > [0] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/345328 > > I think other sites or CloudFare must be similarly faulty, or require > fingerprinting which is guarded against out-of-the-box in IceCat. > > Closing, as I doubt Guix has something to do with it. If you find > something to the contrary, let us know! > > --=20 > Thanks, > Maxim I too have fixed it in the past by switching my user agent. I opened and closed a similar bug some months or years back. That solution stopped working. I have consulted with folks in the qutebrowser IRC about this issue several times and it is not affecting everyone there, so it definitely seems guix-related to me. Something about our packages must make the browser(s) look odd to these infernal browser checks. I know that the issue is cloudflare essentially bullying those of us with more niche setups, but cloudflare has sadly infected most of the Web, so we have to play their game. I fear the number of qutebrowser users on guix is in the single digits and so often I'm running into odd problems with no solution, that again rarely seems to affect people on the other distros when I go to ask for help. I think our Qt version is almost always old which probably doesn't help. I doubt I have the proper evidence to convince you this is guix's fault, but just know that if you close this issue my problem may never be solved (although it may never get solved either way honestly).
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#59546; Package guix.
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[72.10.129.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u13-20020a05620a430d00b006fbdeecad51sm11447514qko.48.2022.12.14.20.32.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 Dec 2022 20:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#59546: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites References: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:32:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> (bdju@HIDDEN's message of "Thu, 24 Nov 2022 10:11:03 -0600") Message-ID: <87h6xxcmmz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 59546-done Cc: 59546-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> writes: > I have hit this issue before, but not in a while. I don't know for sure > when the issue came back as it only matters for the initial login or > visit of the offending sites, so if you manage to get past you'll be > good until your cookie expires or gets deleted somehow. I got logged out > of many sites in qutebrowser recently and was made aware of the issue > being back. I also tested in icecat where some sites I still had a > cookie, but I managed to find one with a browser check and it indeed > never completes (can leave it open hours or even more than a day). > Some sites to test with include: > https://www.livechart.me/ (must click login button, main page works) > https://www.gitlab.com/ (again must click log in to start the check) > > Since this is happening in both icecat and qutebrowser with different > user agents and everything, I suspect a guix-related issue. I found that > at least one other person on IRC was also experiencing the infinite > browser checks. I use a few sites daily that are now unusable on my Guix > System machine due to these browser checks, so a fix would be very much > appreciated if anyone could figure this out. I've had that too with Gitlab when using Icecat. Sadly, it has nothing to do with Guix but with how Cloudfare and the website identifies browsers. For example, I had found out that by using a Windows Firefox 83 user agent, I was able to login into Gitlab (using this plugin: https://gitlab.com/ntninja/user-agent-switcher). I reported the issue to Gitlab, and they could apparently fixed it on their side (not yet deployed) [0] [0] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/345328 I think other sites or CloudFare must be similarly faulty, or require fingerprinting which is guarded against out-of-the-box in IceCat. Closing, as I doubt Guix has something to do with it. If you find something to the contrary, let us know! -- Thanks, Maxim
"bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN>:Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>:Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2022 16:11:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 24 11:11:15 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oyEol-0001CK-Bk for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:11:15 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1oyEoj-0001CC-1L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:11:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1oyEoh-0001MC-RL for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:11:12 -0500 Received: from tilde.team ([2607:5300:60:4f58::248]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bdju@HIDDEN>) id 1oyEoe-0002Zh-R3 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:11:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tilde.team; s=mail; t=1669306264; bh=St5pViKdzgXEg1bL2xMp2qlXFrnL9Q9IrirTlDIz/u4=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=CkeuqeCQktzjTFwRWiekQstlV5fak2WQKoZZ0b9OOWmso33meN0cNy1r0ErRtqYcL YwGrw/RjWbhFO1hsPfzudxK1ZR9Sv/kppx3KSrPcXBd84pUzSdgmzx/gwi/dBkIZdl Ej0hUVPSBvmYD413QmDRCNXBTkvXf8tvnKEKhddk= Received: from localhost (unknown [63.228.59.248]) by tilde.team (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 396574C08B4 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN>; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 10:11:03 -0600 Message-Id: <COKNOMQ0RVGD.2O10X1PL1AGHA@masaki> Subject: qutebrowser and icecat stuck in infinite browser checks (cloudflare) on applicable sites From: "bdju" <bdju@HIDDEN> To: <bug-guix@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: aerc 0.11.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:5300:60:4f58::248; envelope-from=bdju@HIDDEN; helo=tilde.team X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) I have hit this issue before, but not in a while. I don't know for sure when the issue came back as it only matters for the initial login or visit of the offending sites, so if you manage to get past you'll be good until your cookie expires or gets deleted somehow. I got logged out of many sites in qutebrowser recently and was made aware of the issue being back. I also tested in icecat where some sites I still had a cookie, but I managed to find one with a browser check and it indeed never completes (can leave it open hours or even more than a day). Some sites to test with include: https://www.livechart.me/ (must click login button, main page works) https://www.gitlab.com/ (again must click log in to start the check) Since this is happening in both icecat and qutebrowser with different user agents and everything, I suspect a guix-related issue. I found that at least one other person on IRC was also experiencing the infinite browser checks. I use a few sites daily that are now unusable on my Guix System machine due to these browser checks, so a fix would be very much appreciated if anyone could figure this out. guix version: guix (GNU Guix) eb5e650e09dd096c066278918456f3e989f7b9d9 running Guix System as my distro Issue first noticed (again) under a week ago, but could be older. In the past I fixed it by spoofing a firefox user agent the same way in both browsers, but it seemed like it was not working to do that anymore. Currently I have both browsers set to default UAs again, also not working. There is also a relevant closed issue on qutebrowser's github: https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/issues/7208
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