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Hi,

The 'asd-systems' field contains the minimal subset of the ASDF systems
defined by a library that, when compiled, compiles all the systems of
the library.

For example, the ironclad package has many subsystems:
  "ironclad/ciphers"
  "ironclad/digests"
  "ironclad/cipher/aes"
  "ironclad/cipher/threefish"
  "ironclad/digest/sha256"
  "ironclad/public-key/ed25519"
  ...
but the 'asd-systems' field only contains "ironclad".

The mcclim package also has many subsystems:
  "automaton"
  "clim"
  "clim-core"
  "clim-core/frames"
  "clim-core/system"
  "drei-mcclim"
  "esa-mcclim"
  "mcclim-backend-common"
  "mcclim-fonts"
  "slim"
  ...
but the 'asd-systems' field only contains the top level ones, "mcclim",
"clim-examples" and "clim-debugger".

So you can't rely on the contents of 'asd-systems' to have a complete
list of the systems defined by a library.

You could get the full list by searching the for 'defsystem' forms in
the sources directly, with something like:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
find sources -name "*.asd" -exec grep "(defsystem" {} \; | cut -d ' ' -f 2
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

But it would only work for systems not using the package-inferred-system
feature of ASDF.


In my files, I found a function (I don't remember where I got it from)
that can get all the dependencies of a loaded system, even the ones
using package-inferred-system. Maybe it could be modified to limit the
results to a specific library's source tree...


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I didn't know that package-inferred-systems also coupled asdf systems in ad=
dition to packages and files. I'm not a fan of package-inferred-system if y=
ou couldn't tell.

What are your thoughts on a patch that would add all systems to #:asd-syste=
ms? I could use your program along with some manual filtering to filter it =
out. It is ideal to have the knowledge of all asd-systems of a project befo=
re loading it.

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Charles <Charles.b.jackson@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I didn't know that package-inferred-systems also coupled asdf systems in addition to packages and files. I'm not a fan of package-inferred-system if you couldn't tell.
>
> What are your thoughts on a patch that would add all systems to #:asd-systems?
> I could use your program along with some manual filtering to filter it out. It
> is ideal to have the knowledge of all asd-systems of a project before loading
> it.

Adding everything to 'asd-systems' would be tedious. I think Guix
package definitions are not the right place to keep the complete list of
available ASDF systems (just like we don't keep the list of ".so"
C libraries in package definitions).

There's a file search functionality that is being developped (there's
some info about it in the guix-devel mailing list I think). Maybe it
could be used as a base for a script searching for ASDF systems.

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