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BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60 requires manual editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work

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From: gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net
To: bug-hyperbole <at> gnu.org
Subject: BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60 requires manual
 editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:55:11 +0000

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Hello,

I have been very sufficiently impressed by the three Hyperbole 
presentations  at Emacsconf to invest some time trying to install 
Hyperbole despite a message saying that Emacs failed to load hact after 
its installation from the package.el's description of Hyperbole.

I noticed that hyperbole-autoloads.el does not add the Hyperbole 
installation directory to load-path, so I edited hyperbole-autoloads.el 
as shown in the attached patch.

After checking, I also think that the tar files downloaded from 
https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ do not contain XXX-autoloads.el to let 
package.el installation process generate those files, but I am not a 
package.el expert.

Best regards -- Gerard

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Message #8 received at 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Weiner <rswgnu <at> gmail.com>
To: gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net
Cc: 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59970: BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60 requires
 manual editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:33:56 -0500

Presently the elpa config does not allow us to ship the autoloads file as we would like; instead it is built by elpa rather than being a part if the distributions we make.  Maybe it could be added to tar distributions that won’t be used by a package manager.

Did you get it working?

— Bob

> On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:51 AM, gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been very sufficiently impressed by the three Hyperbole presentations  at Emacsconf to invest some time trying to install Hyperbole despite a message saying that Emacs failed to load hact after its installation from the package.el's description of Hyperbole.
> 
> I noticed that hyperbole-autoloads.el does not add the Hyperbole installation directory to load-path, so I edited hyperbole-autoloads.el as shown in the attached patch.
> 
> After checking, I also think that the tar files downloaded from https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ do not contain XXX-autoloads.el to let package.el installation process generate those files, but I am not a package.el expert.
> 
> Best regards -- Gerard
> <work-around-package-el-hyperbole-autoloads.patch>
> _______________________________________________
> Bug-hyperbole mailing list
> Bug-hyperbole <at> gnu.org
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hyperbole

Message #11 received at 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net
To: Robert Weiner <rswgnu <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59970: BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60
 requires manual editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:14:20 +0000

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Yes, all entries in hyperbole-autoloads.el become visible after I edited
the hyperbole-autoloads.el as in the formerly attached patch.
However, if you want to add it to a tar distribution that won't be used
by a package manager, I recommend this attached patch.
It expands the 2 characters #§ explicity (probably only understood by
package.el) in the former patch.
I have at least 2 packages on my system (magit and emms) that ship an
autoloads file with this explicit expansion.

However, the entries in kotl-autoloads.el are not yet visible. I think,
that it is possible to tweak the load-path  code in hyperbole-autoloads
in such a way that it also pulls in the kotl sub-directory.

If so, the tar will work without or with package.el.

Best -- Gerard

On 11.12.2022 18:33, Robert Weiner wrote:
> Presently the elpa config does not allow us to ship the autoloads file
> as we would like; instead it is built by elpa rather than being a part
> if the distributions we make.  Maybe it could be added to tar
> distributions that won’t be used by a package manager.
> 
> Did you get it working?
> 
> — Bob
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2022, at 11:51 AM, gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have been very sufficiently impressed by the three Hyperbole 
>> presentations  at Emacsconf to invest some time trying to install 
>> Hyperbole despite a message saying that Emacs failed to load hact 
>> after its installation from the package.el's description of Hyperbole.
>> 
>> I noticed that hyperbole-autoloads.el does not add the Hyperbole 
>> installation directory to load-path, so I edited 
>> hyperbole-autoloads.el as shown in the attached patch.
>> 
>> After checking, I also think that the tar files downloaded from 
>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ do not contain XXX-autoloads.el to let 
>> package.el installation process generate those files, but I am not a 
>> package.el expert.
>> 
>> Best regards -- Gerard
>> <work-around-package-el-hyperbole-autoloads.patch>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bug-hyperbole mailing list
>> Bug-hyperbole <at> gnu.org
>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hyperbole

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Message #14 received at 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mats Lidell <matsl <at> gnu.org>
To: gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net
Cc: 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59970: BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60
 requires manual editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:53:29 +0100

Hi Gerard,

> gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net writes:
> After checking, I also think that the tar files downloaded from https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ do not contain XXX-autoloads.el

Yes, that is the case. The hyperbole-autoloads.el is missing from the archive file. However the development tar-archive available at https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/hyperbole.html does have the autoloads. I'm not sure but could be an artifact of how those tar-files are built at ELPA and that might have changed since 8.0.0 was released!?

If you have the time it would be interesting to see if the problem remains with the devel version. It also has many improvements and bug fixes.

%% Mats

Message #17 received at 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mats Lidell <matsl <at> gnu.org>
To: gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net
Cc: 59970 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#59970: BUG: install with package.el on emacs-29.0.60
 requires manual editing of hyperbole-autoloads.el to make autoloading work
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:44:26 +0100

Hi Gerard,

> Mats Lidell writes:
> Hi Gerard,
>
> > gerard.vermeulen <at> posteo.net writes:
> > After checking, I also think that the tar files downloaded from
> > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ do not contain XXX-autoloads.el
>
> Yes, that is the case. The hyperbole-autoloads.el is missing from the
> archive file. However the development tar-archive available at
> https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/hyperbole.html does have the autoloads. I'm
> not sure but could be an artifact of how those tar-files are built at
> ELPA and that might have changed since 8.0.0 was released!?

I have had another look at the problem and must correct myself. You can say
that the tar-file, that is available to download from elpa and elpa-devel, is
only supposed to be used by the package manager. The hyperbole-autoload can
therefor not be present in the tar file. It is instead generated by the
package manager when the package is installed.

That hyoperbole-autoloads was available in the elpa-devel was an error and
that has been corrected now.

To use the tar ball directly follow the instructions in the info manual:
    "(Hyperbole)Manual Tarball Archive Installation"
Basically you should run "make bin" after unpacking the tar file in order to
generate the autoloads.

You can also choose to imitate the package manager and run the function
package-install-from-buffer. See {C-hf package-install-from-buffer RET}

%% Mats

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