Received: (at 60101) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2022 19:34:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 15 14:34:48 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44504 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p5u0G-0000Qd-16 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:34:48 -0500 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:38433) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1p5u0A-0000QV-EL for 60101 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:34:46 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F1FDFF802; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:34:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60101: 29.0.60; help-quick should use C-/ for undo In-Reply-To: <87sfhgtqv5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:21:34 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87sfhgtqv5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:34:09 +0200 Message-ID: <86tu1w31hq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60101 Cc: 60101 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I think some general mechanism to associate preferred binding with keys > would be nice to have. What I wonder is if this is general enough of a > use-case to be added to where-is-internal, or should this be fixed > inside of help-quick? In lisp/bindings.el its preferred binding is defined by this line: (put 'undo :advertised-binding [?\C-x ?u])
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2022 19:21:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 15 14:21:43 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44432 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p5tna-0000Gl-LT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:21:43 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:48676) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1p5tnW-0000Ge-Rv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:21:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1p5tnW-0005uZ-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:21:38 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <philipk@HIDDEN>) id 1p5tnT-0005Zy-4p for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:21:37 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6C79240027 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 20:21:31 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1671132091; bh=Tu0oA5nedeIXKEmnLfEUNDH/kVS/8FwcvFtpdOHAdUU=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=rXr0OsvLBu7Drqqn0YymWTw/Me73b3YCGpJ+d273RIlpG7611x8Y1CaeCdoG9j4Ud pprB3+vsnCm/41A2mNJL7rbaFqSrVAfQ566LzXDIj102m0L5MQKxHNYHLluuSEd1PG 7yEk1JcF/456OH5NBezJs9Wdu+De/Y0BNuYqgL8G2t7Y6I2AWo5Uur+/0R+ZGcUICL ppPrxHqJXlbrgB4HKFjL8pNufaF3iwRRBqL/rdzipU3fE3H6M7+lORGGZGzrYCSGGt ++XLA/kNRVLNZuLWSSIF41Jy3sSXJj9heVORmQjdMpFKs0HFSfWDQQeVSYdkFLV+Am dgOJZmnG3Lt6Q== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NY2Cb1w57z6trr for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 20:21:31 +0100 (CET) From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 29.0.60; help-quick should use C-/ for undo Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:21:34 +0000 Message-ID: <87sfhgtqv5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@HIDDEN; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) The new help-quick command makes use of `where-is-internal' to find the binding for a command ti displays. This works fine if a command has only one binding, but in the case of `undo', C-_ is the first one it suggests, since (mapcar #'key-description (where-is-internal 'undo)) ;; => ("C-_" "<undo>" "C-/" "<menu-bar> <edit> <undo>") (key-description (where-is-internal 'undo nil t)) ;; => "C-_" It appears this issue can be resolved by setting (setq where-is-preferred-modifier 'C) (mapcar #'key-description (where-is-internal 'undo)) ;; => ("C-_" "<undo>" "C-/" "<menu-bar> <edit> <undo>") (key-description (where-is-internal 'undo nil t)) ;; => "C-/" But to be honest, I don't understand why, nor do I think the solution is particularly robust. I think some general mechanism to associate preferred binding with keys would be nice to have. What I wonder is if this is general enough of a use-case to be added to where-is-internal, or should this be fixed inside of help-quick? The other issue is how does one determine what binding is preferable. I had previously generalised that C-/ is obviously preferable, but that differs from layout to layout and depending on what keys Emacs can even detect (I believe C-x u is often the only key that can be used in TUI mode). 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