Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 60109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2022 01:51:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 25 20:51:11 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p9cdz-0007I7-5T for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:51:11 -0500 Received: from cyberdimension.org ([80.67.179.20]:38154 helo=gnutoo.cyberdimension.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <GNUtoo@HIDDEN>) id 1p9cdu-0007Hv-HG for 60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:51:09 -0500 Received: from gnutoo.cyberdimension.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cyberdimension.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8f12b4ac for <60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from primary_laptop (localhost [::1]) by gnutoo.cyberdimension.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e3f10097 for <60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 01:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 02:50:18 +0100 From: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@HIDDEN> To: 60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: gnome-boxes and distributions Message-ID: <20221226025018.6bdd5fc5@primary_laptop> In-Reply-To: <20221216153958.345c4ded@primary_laptop> References: <20221216153958.345c4ded@primary_laptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.30; i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/_OG4Oo9RCDDfyO5_v3w3oZN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60109 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Sig_/_OG4Oo9RCDDfyO5_v3w3oZN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:39:58 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <kernel@HIDDEN> wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Here are some more information: >=20 > The Parabola's patch fox fixing that is probably this one: > https://git.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/libosinfo/libre.patch > This is because libosinfo is in the dependencies of gnome-boxes. I > didn't check beyound that. I've looked in more details and it seems that the information is not in libosinfo but in osinfo-db. Apparently Parabola also patches virt-manager[1] probably to remove the mention of non-FSDG distributions, so I'm not sure why Parabola didn't patch osinfo-db directly instead. Maybe it's to minimize the amount of rebuilds or something like that (Parabola reuses packages from Arch Linux and removes/replace the ones that are not FSDG compliant). References: ----------- [1]https://git.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/virt-manager/libre.patch Denis. --Sig_/_OG4Oo9RCDDfyO5_v3w3oZN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEeC+d2+Nrp/PU3kkGX138wUF34mMFAmOo/doACgkQX138wUF3 4mPPfRAAhvyJh09X+0aCHoWlgRWp4+C3xfdzOU9sRm1TJ9X/5FQT37W8gw9BuVwN mkapAziMQwJuRtS33m0+1pUP90XCFOqzYI1gDNDspnOvkDwZ9JfewFHu6MJnsI2K 1jYWB9Yienc31A1TD5JdapkkALLaI3vh3pCIDp8UBeQf67zANI3h5nkBIQsSormG YqeiE6wmv7ePLAldiz1p2ftwQxBVARMsXOJjLawcCQnBH/qeMT5Rnl/LROBj07i7 4Ue9Htlpb4gLnY6Rw7XEKLHA0Tf/4tsiHUO128ozzDXAACmKpql2tEt9p8gUo2tE 86Hk4uyyj+O1NFxsvpxSGUAoQKQBOmqogqyCwiHZhbxxE2FhsH9JGJLs/rjs0TUH d8CMTKUBpu3tS4tt4iUqGGGmI/gSEduJGkXEMTUXzO2w/VN8N/j3n8U9kYxSpVGq 4pLg4Lz1V3ImnG1hcAHYpfEhwLcOeP7A3seckRKJ73PYa8d1H4nor21IP1EYfo2h iPhItiPLmUBDaENCXt3NyRkePCdWbDbSPFB1MFfFbciJqSTDWzRN8i4XurKhscYz Xnu9lUIkTySmYjmG2cTodxU2Fr7r79zIlElGynWrQDjkEzgC4P8GFAKE2o0n7Cma F9oMBd8XokWxeQUTn3uRi8WD+H6IhMYctUnG6F/QG6ny3zwRDOU= =cIhJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/_OG4Oo9RCDDfyO5_v3w3oZN--
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Full text available.Received: (at 60109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2022 16:54:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 16 11:54:25 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50398 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1p6Dya-0001j5-I0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from cyberdimension.org ([80.67.179.20]:34246 helo=gnutoo.cyberdimension.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <kernel@HIDDEN>) id 1p6Bsy-0006MB-Ur for 60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:40:29 -0500 Received: from gnutoo.cyberdimension.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cyberdimension.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0398b271 for <60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from primary_laptop (localhost [::1]) by gnutoo.cyberdimension.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5b46f907 for <60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:39:58 +0100 From: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <kernel@HIDDEN> To: 60109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: gnome-boxes and distributions Message-ID: <20221216153958.345c4ded@primary_laptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.30; i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/9cLV98f9xZYsxi7joVc4FAI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60109 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:54:24 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Sig_/9cLV98f9xZYsxi7joVc4FAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Here are some more information: The Parabola's patch fox fixing that is probably this one: https://git.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/libosinfo/libre.patch This is because libosinfo is in the dependencies of gnome-boxes. I didn't check beyound that. To reproduce the bug one need to lauch gnome-box (probably with virtualization services enabled). Once installed and launched (and the first information wizard skipped) we can click on the top-left "+" button. We then have the choice between "Create virtual machine from file" and "Download an operating system".=20 It also shows "Featured Downloads" with distributions under it like Red Hat entreprise Linux 9 Unknown x86_64, Fedora Workstation 36 x86_64 (live), etc and all these are known to contain nonfree firmwares. I'm not sure if it shows this "Featured Downloads" all the time though. If we click on Download an operating system, then we have a list of distributions like Ubuntu, openSUSE etc which again are known to include nonfree firmwares in their installers. If we go down and click on the 3 vertical dot buttons, we then have a more complete list which also includes FSDG compliant distributions such as (complete list): - PureOS x86_64 (Live) from Purism, SPC - Guix latest x86_64 from Guix contributors - PureOS 10 KDE x86_64 (Live) from Purism, SPC - PureOS 10 GNOME x86_64 (Live) from Purism, SPC - Trisquel 9 Sugar Toast x86_64 (live) from The Trisquel project - Trisquel 9 x86_64 (live) from The Trisquel project - Triskel 9 x86_64 (live) from The Trisquel project - Trisquel 9 Mini x86_64 (live) from The Trisquel project - Guix 1.3 x86_64 from Guix contributors - Guix 1.3 i686 from Guix contributors - Hypertalking 03 x86_64 (Live) from the Hyperbola project - Hyperbola 03 x86_64 (Live) from the Hyperbola project Then there are some distributions where I'm not completely sure of the status: - freenix x86_64 (DVD)(Live) from the Freenix project Here this is a distribution that applied for FSDG compliance but it was stuck in review for some reasons (probably either people waiting on each other, or the lack of time to review it properly from at least one of the sides) - Debian: As far as I understand they include the nonfree firmwares by default nowadays in some situations, so it's probably easier to filter them out than check each installer / image for nonfree firmwares. - Freedos: if I recall well that came with nonfree software but there is an ongoing effort to remove it, I just don't know the status. It probably still depend on nonfree compilers (under the openwatcom license) though so it probably has nonfree dependencies. And as far as I know all the other either have at least nonfree firmwares inside. Denis. --Sig_/9cLV98f9xZYsxi7joVc4FAI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEeC+d2+Nrp/PU3kkGX138wUF34mMFAmOcgz4ACgkQX138wUF3 4mN1Kg/9GCI5+uLfrxOygwJRTn2e21d4EaYw/EOi90KbLdzZa/Bd3VtA5+2zCiOG /ZbEw+eIl36WskmxOGdpjoUCQquRrWVAgRu/9x7KNWJMaJOJfPmN8QP/ANg72AjD 4HiwvZwQnKFDOKzUCLkTFJRnrQdNrWWphm0o9bQ6JF+EZIzYW/NsEpKJc6Fd58/v /Igr2wAw9iL1KGxTZlHcPipODzdIPUYEF6EyFV7gT1yqnzQ7Y+NCQm6HHJyKm29U bfQcg4Jc+vC3XAyPvPxZiY1f4d9zsvFr8lN4XIJgcvPzoK+5ZrA6zPamBjyU6e0s FvgqmLKGxyyiGyrOfssKwZPcDDcwePrOwgxr/z041UptFrnNNL9SJI+hxS78adJ8 dCeb6RbUjNfwDIy9Id95p3I6hu/w+hxJkb2TqkEwnIW30VaxmaaJf8686PzWBRsO qLDKKIL+Fi37Ny2vv7jQA04JX7yFnCAWrxuUjTP9Vsr9zeoDQQKRb5qUezrQlhQC n/YNuits5hpzMyaScfDOzgw1g25kfwOS7VF7Pe3EDJ+oPfdNjFcM+31JWsyDvbVN ilIhQFODiU2ZOs4xj6yAbAzSNk+302X2oK/dTTx4rvOPrpCbcZ6MeNm7WnDarC+d d0IKGsIox7mfCKKQTg8vyzcsOZq7E4+YnlwkT7O3a9d2vdhGRtg= =XCQb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9cLV98f9xZYsxi7joVc4FAI--
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