Received: (at 60426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2023 19:39:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 11 14:39:15 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFgwN-0003Hv-2i for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:39:15 -0500 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:59547) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1pFgwK-0003He-MH for 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:39:13 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2FB91BF203; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:39:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Rah Guzar <rahguzar@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard In-Reply-To: <87fschrpqw.fsf@HIDDEN> (Rah Guzar's message of "Wed, 11 Jan 2023 17:29:22 +0100") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <871qohm8ht.fsf@HIDDEN> <861qo95fzi.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cy0ztuj.fsf@HIDDEN> <86tu0ymc2s.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fschrpqw.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:38:05 +0200 Message-ID: <86lem8vp42.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60426 Cc: 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > 1. I think in the NEWS entry, "font-lock text property 'keymap'" should > probably just be "text property 'keymap'" i.e. why mention font-lock? Thanks, now pushed to the emacs-29 branch with these corrections. > 2. Since the implementation of `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` can change, > it is better to change the order of arguments and make `map` an actual > third argument. It is awkward to pass `nil` as the first argument and I > think that way the actual map key is bound to can be treated as an > implementation detail with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` the official > way of binding keys on headings. Even though it's like an "internal" function, I still hesitate to reorder its arguments to not break user configs. I'd rather add a new function without two hyphens as the official way to use it in personal customization: (defun outline-minor-mode-cycle-bind (key binding &optional filter map) (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map key binding &optional filter) and declare `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` obsolete.
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The patch look good to me. Minor quibbles: 1. I think in the NEWS entry, "font-lock text property 'keymap'" should probably just be "text property 'keymap'" i.e. why mention font-lock? 2. Since the implementation of `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` can change, it is better to change the order of arguments and make `map` an actual third argument. It is awkward to pass `nil` as the first argument and I think that way the actual map key is bound to can be treated as an implementation detail with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` the official way of binding keys on headings. Thanks again! Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: >>> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle) >>> >>> Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring >>> and mentioned in NEWS? >> >> I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound >> on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was. >> >> But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the >> docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current >> docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in >> my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active >> if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of >> `outline-minor-mode-cycle`. > > Thanks for suggestions. The following patch addresses all the points > that have been raised, except obsoleting `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`. > It's more convenient to bind keys in this map since `outline-minor-mode-map` > is not explicitly defined unlike `outline-mode-map`. > >> Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name >> outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private >> function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place >> for it to be private. > > Two hyphens in the name rather indicated that the implementation > is subject to change without notice - an assumption that is true > for internal functions. So now I'm not sure if adding an alias > without two hyphens is worth to do. > > [2. text/x-diff; outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind.patch] > diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS > index a28f5c9a65a..6ae79e6cebc 100644 > --- a/etc/NEWS > +++ b/etc/NEWS > @@ -350,6 +350,15 @@ next button, even if the mode has bound it to something else. This > also means that 'TAB' on a button in an 'outline-minor-mode' heading > will move point instead of collapsing the outline. > > +--- > +** 'outline-minor-mode-cycle-map' is now parent of 'outline-minor-mode'. > +Instead of adding font-lock text property 'keymap' with > +'outline-minor-mode-cycle' on outline headings in 'outline-minor-mode', > +the keymap 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' is now active in the whole buffer. > +But keybindings in 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' are still take effect > +only on outline headings because they are bound with the help of > +'outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind' that checks if point is on a heading. > + > --- > ** 'Info-default-directory-list' is no longer populated at Emacs startup. > If you have code in your init file that removes directories from > diff --git a/lisp/outline.el b/lisp/outline.el > index 91f6040687b..26e41735a01 100644 > --- a/lisp/outline.el > +++ b/lisp/outline.el > @@ -210,7 +210,12 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter > > (defvar outline-minor-mode-cycle) > (defun outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind (map key binding &optional filter) > - (define-key map key > + "Define KEY as BINDING in MAP using FILTER. > +The key takes effect only on the following conditions: > +`outline-minor-mode-cycle' is non-nil, point is located on the heading line, > +FILTER or `outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter' is nil or returns non-nil. > +The argument MAP is optional and defaults to `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map'." > + (define-key (or map outline-minor-mode-cycle-map) key > `(menu-item > "" ,binding > ;; Filter out specific positions on the heading. > @@ -227,8 +232,16 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-map > (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) > (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle) > (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "<backtab>") #'outline-cycle-buffer) > + (keymap-set map "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle) > + (keymap-set map "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle) > + (keymap-set map "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer) > + (keymap-set map "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer) > map) > - "Keymap used by `outline-minor-mode-cycle'.") > + "Keymap used as a parent of the `outline-minor-mode' keymap. > +It contains key bindings that can be used to cycle visibility. > +The recommended way to bind keys is with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind' > +when the key should be enabled only when `outline-minor-mode-cycle' is > +non-nil and point is located on the heading line.") > > (defvar outline-mode-map > (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) > @@ -518,10 +532,6 @@ outline-minor-mode > :keymap (define-keymap > :parent outline-minor-mode-cycle-map > "<menu-bar>" outline-minor-mode-menu-bar-map > - "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle > - "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle > - "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer > - "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer > (key-description outline-minor-mode-prefix) outline-mode-prefix-map) > (if outline-minor-mode > (progn
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>> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
>>
>> Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring
>> and mentioned in NEWS?
>
> I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound
> on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was.
>
> But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the
> docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current
> docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in
> my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active
> if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of
> `outline-minor-mode-cycle`.
Thanks for suggestions. The following patch addresses all the points
that have been raised, except obsoleting `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`.
It's more convenient to bind keys in this map since `outline-minor-mode-map`
is not explicitly defined unlike `outline-mode-map`.
> Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name
> outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private
> function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place
> for it to be private.
Two hyphens in the name rather indicated that the implementation
is subject to change without notice - an assumption that is true
for internal functions. So now I'm not sure if adding an alias
without two hyphens is worth to do.
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diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index a28f5c9a65a..6ae79e6cebc 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -350,6 +350,15 @@ next button, even if the mode has bound it to something else. This
also means that 'TAB' on a button in an 'outline-minor-mode' heading
will move point instead of collapsing the outline.
+---
+** 'outline-minor-mode-cycle-map' is now parent of 'outline-minor-mode'.
+Instead of adding font-lock text property 'keymap' with
+'outline-minor-mode-cycle' on outline headings in 'outline-minor-mode',
+the keymap 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' is now active in the whole buffer.
+But keybindings in 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' are still take effect
+only on outline headings because they are bound with the help of
+'outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind' that checks if point is on a heading.
+
---
** 'Info-default-directory-list' is no longer populated at Emacs startup.
If you have code in your init file that removes directories from
diff --git a/lisp/outline.el b/lisp/outline.el
index 91f6040687b..26e41735a01 100644
--- a/lisp/outline.el
+++ b/lisp/outline.el
@@ -210,7 +210,12 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter
(defvar outline-minor-mode-cycle)
(defun outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind (map key binding &optional filter)
- (define-key map key
+ "Define KEY as BINDING in MAP using FILTER.
+The key takes effect only on the following conditions:
+`outline-minor-mode-cycle' is non-nil, point is located on the heading line,
+FILTER or `outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter' is nil or returns non-nil.
+The argument MAP is optional and defaults to `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map'."
+ (define-key (or map outline-minor-mode-cycle-map) key
`(menu-item
"" ,binding
;; Filter out specific positions on the heading.
@@ -227,8 +232,16 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "<backtab>") #'outline-cycle-buffer)
+ (keymap-set map "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
+ (keymap-set map "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
+ (keymap-set map "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
+ (keymap-set map "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
map)
- "Keymap used by `outline-minor-mode-cycle'.")
+ "Keymap used as a parent of the `outline-minor-mode' keymap.
+It contains key bindings that can be used to cycle visibility.
+The recommended way to bind keys is with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind'
+when the key should be enabled only when `outline-minor-mode-cycle' is
+non-nil and point is located on the heading line.")
(defvar outline-mode-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
@@ -518,10 +532,6 @@ outline-minor-mode
:keymap (define-keymap
:parent outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
"<menu-bar>" outline-minor-mode-menu-bar-map
- "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
- "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
- "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
- "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
(key-description outline-minor-mode-prefix) outline-mode-prefix-map)
(if outline-minor-mode
(progn
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Full text available.Received: (at 60426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2023 19:04:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 05 14:04:15 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pDVXD-0001lX-EA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 14:04:15 -0500 Received: from sender11-pp-o91.zoho.eu ([31.186.226.249]:25207) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rahguzar@HIDDEN>) id 1pDVXB-0001lO-LQ for 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 14:04:14 -0500 Delivered-To: rahguzar@HIDDEN ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1672945450; cv=none; d=zohomail.eu; s=zohoarc; b=d3moyvzNEKIxeUBB8Cy6W8JdUszorgDBT7FZrLTFnfsUoyjlhJl8hp7pblrce76gPJChkHWiJ6whZu+dk/Xde/rrwds9nbzC94y7dPTmH+FSFc6mCHDFEzP3fpaAtfzwOJRhi/O8muanqBYeH/aIpWtZnAPpJDYz2NZ/HQgFsYA= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.eu; s=zohoarc; t=1672945450; h=Content-Type:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=xmJytYkZjBvB145a6agDAoIVxj7wsOCAj9C433VxVkE=; b=jQ8DtwHNLAWJyFP4cd1f4IdZRquoH27cV5v3RMUSOmcf9Uz8BMu12ggyT+awnucD7YbHzzbLnc0PjKVXlfeJ7jGL1U67Y9KCrvIvhIv2diPe7MIAznhbysc2gIEHzIU9Ooh7RqmNSD7u87yx4+JQOZyOM0jVJzysmJSUhN0pCOg= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.eu; dkim=pass header.i=zohomail.eu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rahguzar@HIDDEN; dmarc=pass header.from=<rahguzar@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1672945450; s=zoho; d=zohomail.eu; i=rahguzar@HIDDEN; h=References:From:From:To:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:Subject:Date:Date:In-reply-to:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=xmJytYkZjBvB145a6agDAoIVxj7wsOCAj9C433VxVkE=; b=gyma5qjKB/vHAATRCo19EigLihhWMIX3D6ihad6xGZK7xQkXaN3scklwrLM3QGqS rJw7EHH2UzKlM+1UYU7oDfp+g4+36F51SF4uC70DcLPIjXkMcQ7jZqn3mARyPJslpDv mhjr9WviVJWFrgiTIw0kl1+UhIV/exf2yPrKKbr4= Received: from localhost (81-231-79-170-no600.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.79.170]) by mx.zoho.eu with SMTPS id 1672945446876631.8030045926605; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:04:06 +0100 (CET) References: <871qohm8ht.fsf@HIDDEN> <861qo95fzi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-agent: mu4e 1.8.13; emacs 29.0.60 From: Rah Guzar <rahguzar@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:28:38 +0100 In-reply-to: <861qo95fzi.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <877cy0ztuj.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60426 Cc: Rah Guzar <rahguzar@HIDDEN>, 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > We expected this change to be backwards-compatible assuming > that users would define keys in outline-minor-mode-cycle-map > using the same helper as is seen in the default definition: > > (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle) > > Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring > and mentioned in NEWS? I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was. But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of `outline-minor-mode-cycle`. Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place for it to be private. By the way I also think that the MAP argument outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind of should be optional. Thanks!
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#60426; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 60426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2023 17:56:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 05 12:56:20 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pDUTU-0008CH-Bg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:56:20 -0500 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:50401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1pDUTR-0008Bl-LI for 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:56:18 -0500 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 424DB60002; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:56:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Rah Guzar <rahguzar@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard In-Reply-To: <871qohm8ht.fsf@HIDDEN> (Rah Guzar via's message of "Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:12:15 +0100") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <871qohm8ht.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:45:37 +0200 Message-ID: <861qo95fzi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60426 Cc: 60426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Looking around I found that it was because the implementation had > changed, it no longer used `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` as > the value of keymap text property on headings but rather used an > extended menu item. After looking through the source I finally > figured that the way to achieve what I wanted was to bind > > `(menu-item "" outline-cycle :filter ,(lambda (cmd) (when (outline-on-heading-p) cmd)))` > > to `<tab>`. > > I think this is very confusing and is going to lead to some head > scratching for people who might have other keys bound on > `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` since that map is now the parent > of `outline-minor-mode-map`. I think with the current approach it > will be better to entirely remove `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` > and bind the extended menu items directly on `outline-minor-mode-map` > (the bindings are actually already on the `outline-minor-mode-map`). > Another way can be to not make `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` make > a parent of `outline-minor-mode-map`, obsolete it and add to its > docstring a description of how to achieve the same effect using > extended menu items. We expected this change to be backwards-compatible assuming that users would define keys in outline-minor-mode-cycle-map using the same helper as is seen in the default definition: (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle) Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring and mentioned in NEWS?
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But to make it work I needed to bind `outline-cycle` to `<tab>` in addition to `TAB` on `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`. By default it is only bound to `TAB`. This worked great in Emacs 28 but when I moved to Emacs 29 this resulted in `outline-cycle` bound to `<tab>` everywhere and not just on outline headings. Looking around I found that it was because the implementation had changed, it no longer used `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` as the value of keymap text property on headings but rather used an extended menu item. After looking through the source I finally figured that the way to achieve what I wanted was to bind `(menu-item "" outline-cycle :filter ,(lambda (cmd) (when (outline-on-heading-p) cmd)))` to `<tab>`. I think this is very confusing and is going to lead to some head scratching for people who might have other keys bound on `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` since that map is now the parent of `outline-minor-mode-map`. I think with the current approach it will be better to entirely remove `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` and bind the extended menu items directly on `outline-minor-mode-map` (the bindings are actually already on the `outline-minor-mode-map`). Another way can be to not make `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` make a parent of `outline-minor-mode-map`, obsolete it and add to its docstring a description of how to achieve the same effect using extended menu items. 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Rah Guzar <rahguzar@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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