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Subject: bug#60468: 29.0.60; next-history-element places cursosr inconsistently
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Dear Emacs developers,
   Starting from emacs -Q:

   If I do, C-h v M-n a variable is inserted into minibuffer
   with the cursor at the beginning of variable name. This
   behavior is unexpected to me as in the vast majority of
   cases if I want to add to input it is at the end of it
   and not the beginning.

   On the other if I do, C-h v SPC M-n the cursor is at the
   end of the input as I expected.

   I don't understand the rationale for this behavior. Digging
   into source, this is controlled by this piece of code in
   `goto-history-element`

   (unless (memq last-command '(next-history-element
				 previous-history-element))
      (let ((prompt-end (minibuffer-prompt-end)))
        (setq-local minibuffer-temporary-goal-position
                    (cond ((<= (point) prompt-end) prompt-end)
                          ((eobp) nil)
                          (t (point))))))

  The unexpected behavior I described earlier is caused by the
  first clause in the cond above which treats the cursor at the
  end of the prompt with no input to be inside the prompt while
  to me it seems better to treat the cursor as being at end of
  buffer.

  From my own habit, it seem better leave the cursor at the end
  of the input unconditionally. Does it makes sense to provide
  that at least an option?


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>         (setq-local minibuffer-temporary-goal-position
>                     (cond ((<= (point) prompt-end) prompt-end)
>                           ((eobp) nil)
>                           (t (point))))))
>
>   The unexpected behavior I described earlier is caused by the
>   first clause in the cond above which treats the cursor at the
>   end of the prompt with no input to be inside the prompt while
>   to me it seems better to treat the cursor as being at end of
>   buffer.
>
>   From my own habit, it seem better leave the cursor at the end
>   of the input unconditionally. Does it makes sense to provide
>   that at least an option?

If Eli will agree to an option, then after changing in goto-history-element
from (<= (point) prompt-end) to (< (point) prompt-end), please also change
in next-line-or-history-element from (> (point) prompt-end) to
(>= (point) prompt-end) and in previous-line-or-history-element
from (> (point) prompt-end) to (>= (point) prompt-end)
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> Cc: 60468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:42:35 +0200
> 
> >         (setq-local minibuffer-temporary-goal-position
> >                     (cond ((<= (point) prompt-end) prompt-end)
> >                           ((eobp) nil)
> >                           (t (point))))))
> >
> >   The unexpected behavior I described earlier is caused by the
> >   first clause in the cond above which treats the cursor at the
> >   end of the prompt with no input to be inside the prompt while
> >   to me it seems better to treat the cursor as being at end of
> >   buffer.
> >
> >   From my own habit, it seem better leave the cursor at the end
> >   of the input unconditionally. Does it makes sense to provide
> >   that at least an option?
> 
> If Eli will agree to an option, then after changing in goto-history-element
> from (<= (point) prompt-end) to (< (point) prompt-end), please also change
> in next-line-or-history-element from (> (point) prompt-end) to
> (>= (point) prompt-end) and in previous-line-or-history-element
> from (> (point) prompt-end) to (>= (point) prompt-end)
> depending on that option.

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